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hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-01 by somethingkillingyou

hi

like I said, I'm new there :)

I just bought a DPX-1 that is currently under repair because the 
internal power supply fried, due to years of inactivity...

my question is: 
I currently use a pc running windows xp; can I be able to burn some 
floppy with Emulator II and/or Mirage/S900/Prophet 2000-2002 format 
sounds (with the help of some softwares) so that I can play these 
floppies with my DPX-1 (knock on wood, it should be resurrected)?

thanks in advance

Fabio

p.s. private answer mails are fine too ;)

Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-01 by elmbeatz

Hi!

As far as I know, the only way to create E-II disks 'outside' the E-II
is to use a macintosh with Sound Designer II software connected to the
E-II via RS-422 serial interface. But there's a BRILLIANT software for
Windows XP called EMXP ( http://users.skynet.be/emxp/ ) which can give
you a workaround (convert wavs to E-II etc.) 

Take a look at that, it may be very interesting for you!

Greetings,
Elm.

Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-01 by Heiko Mehring

Hello emulators,

as far as I know, the only way to create EII-disks is with an EII. 
The Sounddesigner-program just creates soundfiles in sounddesigner-
format.

Best regards
Heiko

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi!
> 
> As far as I know, the only way to create E-II disks 'outside' the 
E-II
> is to use a macintosh with Sound Designer II software connected to 
the
> E-II via RS-422 serial interface. But there's a BRILLIANT software 
for
> Windows XP called EMXP ( http://users.skynet.be/emxp/ ) which can 
give
> you a workaround (convert wavs to E-II etc.) 
> 
> Take a look at that, it may be very interesting for you!
> 
> Greetings,
> Elm.
>

Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-01 by esynthesist

Maybe one day (very) far in the future EMXP will also support DPX 
directly. 

The DPX 3.5 disks can be read by a PC (with OmniFlop) so these can be 
created on a PC for sure. I tried this a year ago.
Higher OS versions of the DPX-1 can create backup 3.5 disks of any of 
the 4 sampleformats supported by DPX.
It's this type of backup disk which can perfectly be created on a PC.

So the only thing we need is a program which can translate EII 
SoundDesigner files (and S900/Mirage/Prophet files) into this 
proprietary DPX-1 format :-)
That might be EMXP... but I'm not promising anything. The DPX format 
must be rev engineered and that's pretty time consuming.

///E-Synthesist 

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Heiko Mehring" 
<Mehrings@...> wrote:
>
> Hello emulators,
> 
> as far as I know, the only way to create EII-disks is with an EII. 
> The Sounddesigner-program just creates soundfiles in sounddesigner-
> format.
> 
> Best regards
> Heiko
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > 
> > As far as I know, the only way to create E-II disks 'outside' the 
> E-II
> > is to use a macintosh with Sound Designer II software connected 
to 
> the
> > E-II via RS-422 serial interface. But there's a BRILLIANT 
software 
> for
> > Windows XP called EMXP ( http://users.skynet.be/emxp/ ) which can 
> give
> > you a workaround (convert wavs to E-II etc.) 
> > 
> > Take a look at that, it may be very interesting for you!
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > Elm.
> >
>

Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-02 by somethingkillingyou

maybe I'm a moron, but I don't know what's the problem with DPX-1 
and EMPX at all...

is it possible to format a disk that will work on a Emulator II from 
my pc?

if Emulator II can read a floppy, the DXP-1 sample player will read 
it as well...

I "simply" need some disk formatted in emulator II format...


--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" 
<esynthesist@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe one day (very) far in the future EMXP will also support DPX 
> directly. 
> 
> The DPX 3.5 disks can be read by a PC (with OmniFlop) so these can 
be 
> created on a PC for sure. I tried this a year ago.
> Higher OS versions of the DPX-1 can create backup 3.5 disks of any 
of 
> the 4 sampleformats supported by DPX.
> It's this type of backup disk which can perfectly be created on a 
PC.
> 
> So the only thing we need is a program which can translate EII 
> SoundDesigner files (and S900/Mirage/Prophet files) into this 
> proprietary DPX-1 format :-)
> That might be EMXP... but I'm not promising anything. The DPX 
format 
> must be rev engineered and that's pretty time consuming.
> 
> ///E-Synthesist 
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Heiko Mehring" 
> <Mehrings@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello emulators,
> > 
> > as far as I know, the only way to create EII-disks is with an 
EII. 
> > The Sounddesigner-program just creates soundfiles in 
sounddesigner-
> > format.
> > 
> > Best regards
> > Heiko
> > 
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > > 
> > > As far as I know, the only way to create E-II disks 'outside' 
the 
> > E-II
> > > is to use a macintosh with Sound Designer II software 
connected 
> to 
> > the
> > > E-II via RS-422 serial interface. But there's a BRILLIANT 
> software 
> > for
> > > Windows XP called EMXP ( http://users.skynet.be/emxp/ ) which 
can 
> > give
> > > you a workaround (convert wavs to E-II etc.) 
> > > 
> > > Take a look at that, it may be very interesting for you!
> > > 
> > > Greetings,
> > > Elm.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [emulatorII-list] Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-02 by Heiko Mehring

That`s the problem,

it isn`t possible to format a EII-disk on PC or Mac. It`s just possible with an EII.

Regards
Heiko


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: somethingkillingyou 
  To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:23 AM
  Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...


  maybe I'm a moron, but I don't know what's the problem with DPX-1 
  and EMPX at all...

  is it possible to format a disk that will work on a Emulator II from 
  my pc?

  if Emulator II can read a floppy, the DXP-1 sample player will read 
  it as well...

  I "simply" need some disk formatted in emulator II format...

  --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" 
  <esynthesist@...> wrote:
  >
  > Maybe one day (very) far in the future EMXP will also support DPX 
  > directly. 
  > 
  > The DPX 3.5 disks can be read by a PC (with OmniFlop) so these can 
  be 
  > created on a PC for sure. I tried this a year ago.
  > Higher OS versions of the DPX-1 can create backup 3.5 disks of any 
  of 
  > the 4 sampleformats supported by DPX.
  > It's this type of backup disk which can perfectly be created on a 
  PC.
  > 
  > So the only thing we need is a program which can translate EII 
  > SoundDesigner files (and S900/Mirage/Prophet files) into this 
  > proprietary DPX-1 format :-)
  > That might be EMXP... but I'm not promising anything. The DPX 
  format 
  > must be rev engineered and that's pretty time consuming.
  > 
  > ///E-Synthesist 
  > 
  > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Heiko Mehring" 
  > <Mehrings@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Hello emulators,
  > > 
  > > as far as I know, the only way to create EII-disks is with an 
  EII. 
  > > The Sounddesigner-program just creates soundfiles in 
  sounddesigner-
  > > format.
  > > 
  > > Best regards
  > > Heiko
  > > 
  > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@> 
  > > wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Hi!
  > > > 
  > > > As far as I know, the only way to create E-II disks 'outside' 
  the 
  > > E-II
  > > > is to use a macintosh with Sound Designer II software 
  connected 
  > to 
  > > the
  > > > E-II via RS-422 serial interface. But there's a BRILLIANT 
  > software 
  > > for
  > > > Windows XP called EMXP ( http://users.skynet.be/emxp/ ) which 
  can 
  > > give
  > > > you a workaround (convert wavs to E-II etc.) 
  > > > 
  > > > Take a look at that, it may be very interesting for you!
  > > > 
  > > > Greetings,
  > > > Elm.
  > > >
  > >
  >



   

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Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-02 by hexafuzz

Youll probably have more luck with the S900 format. A program like
AkaiDisk will be helpful: http://mda.smartelectronix.com/akai/

Dont forget that you can also use SDS to get samples into the DPX-1
and then save in native DPX format on floppy as stated by esynthesist.

Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-02 by esynthesist

Sorry, I forgot to confirm what the other members already said: it's 
not possible to format/create an EII floppy disk if you don't have an 
EII. The EII is the only piece of hardware which is capable of 
creating its own disks.
(but I know of someone who's trying to hack this on his PC :-)

Here's a workaround though: someone who owns both an EII and a DPX-I 
(like me) can load an EII disk in the DPX and save it on 3.5 disk on 
the DPX. 
This 3.5 disk can be copied to a disk image file on a WinXP PC using 
OmniFlop.
Once you receive/download this file, you can do the other way around: 
you can save the DPX image file back on a 3.5 disk on your WinXP PC 
with OmniFlop.
This disk then can be loaded on your DPX-1.
And voila, you'll have a real EII performance bank on your DPX.

Simple, isn't it :-)

Maybe I will put one or two of such DPX/EII diskimages in the files 
section of this group, including short instructions how to use 
OmniFlop for those read/save operations.

///E-Synthesist 




--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "somethingkillingyou" 
<somethingkillingyou@...> wrote:
>
> maybe I'm a moron, but I don't know what's the problem with DPX-1 
> and EMPX at all...
> 
> is it possible to format a disk that will work on a Emulator II 
from 
> my pc?
> 
> if Emulator II can read a floppy, the DXP-1 sample player will read 
> it as well...
> 
> I "simply" need some disk formatted in emulator II format...
> 
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" 
> <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe one day (very) far in the future EMXP will also support DPX 
> > directly. 
> > 
> > The DPX 3.5 disks can be read by a PC (with OmniFlop) so these 
can 
> be 
> > created on a PC for sure. I tried this a year ago.
> > Higher OS versions of the DPX-1 can create backup 3.5 disks of 
any 
> of 
> > the 4 sampleformats supported by DPX.
> > It's this type of backup disk which can perfectly be created on a 
> PC.
> > 
> > So the only thing we need is a program which can translate EII 
> > SoundDesigner files (and S900/Mirage/Prophet files) into this 
> > proprietary DPX-1 format :-)
> > That might be EMXP... but I'm not promising anything. The DPX 
> format 
> > must be rev engineered and that's pretty time consuming.
> > 
> > ///E-Synthesist 
> > 
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Heiko Mehring" 
> > <Mehrings@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello emulators,
> > > 
> > > as far as I know, the only way to create EII-disks is with an 
> EII. 
> > > The Sounddesigner-program just creates soundfiles in 
> sounddesigner-
> > > format.
> > > 
> > > Best regards
> > > Heiko
> > > 
> > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > > 
> > > > As far as I know, the only way to create E-II disks 'outside' 
> the 
> > > E-II
> > > > is to use a macintosh with Sound Designer II software 
> connected 
> > to 
> > > the
> > > > E-II via RS-422 serial interface. But there's a BRILLIANT 
> > software 
> > > for
> > > > Windows XP called EMXP ( http://users.skynet.be/emxp/ ) which 
> can 
> > > give
> > > > you a workaround (convert wavs to E-II etc.) 
> > > > 
> > > > Take a look at that, it may be very interesting for you!
> > > > 
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Elm.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-02 by somethingkillingyou

thank you very much! 
now it is all much more clear!

I just don't understand HOW is it possible that there is no other 
way to "burn" directly in the EII format...

I hope that the guy who's trying to hack it with a PC will find a 
workaround... :)

btw that's really strange that there is no software for smtg like 
this, be it in a mac or pc or amiga or even commodore or atari 
form...

some dpx-1 disk images would be really fine!

IMHO, I think that after all this time, since the guys who did the 
original libraries are NOT gaining anymore from their hard work, it 
is in our RIGHT to burn our own disk bypassing third-parts vendors...


Fabio

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" 
<esynthesist@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I forgot to confirm what the other members already said: 
it's 
> not possible to format/create an EII floppy disk if you don't have 
an 
> EII. The EII is the only piece of hardware which is capable of 
> creating its own disks.
> (but I know of someone who's trying to hack this on his PC :-)
> 
> Here's a workaround though: someone who owns both an EII and a DPX-
I 
> (like me) can load an EII disk in the DPX and save it on 3.5 disk 
on 
> the DPX. 
> This 3.5 disk can be copied to a disk image file on a WinXP PC 
using 
> OmniFlop.
> Once you receive/download this file, you can do the other way 
around: 
> you can save the DPX image file back on a 3.5 disk on your WinXP 
PC 
> with OmniFlop.
> This disk then can be loaded on your DPX-1.
> And voila, you'll have a real EII performance bank on your DPX.
> 
> Simple, isn't it :-)
> 
> Maybe I will put one or two of such DPX/EII diskimages in the 
files 
> section of this group, including short instructions how to use 
> OmniFlop for those read/save operations.
> 
> ///E-Synthesist 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "somethingkillingyou" 
> <somethingkillingyou@> wrote:
> >
> > maybe I'm a moron, but I don't know what's the problem with DPX-
1 
> > and EMPX at all...
> > 
> > is it possible to format a disk that will work on a Emulator II 
> from 
> > my pc?
> > 
> > if Emulator II can read a floppy, the DXP-1 sample player will 
read 
> > it as well...
> > 
> > I "simply" need some disk formatted in emulator II format...
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" 
> > <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe one day (very) far in the future EMXP will also support 
DPX 
> > > directly. 
> > > 
> > > The DPX 3.5 disks can be read by a PC (with OmniFlop) so these 
> can 
> > be 
> > > created on a PC for sure. I tried this a year ago.
> > > Higher OS versions of the DPX-1 can create backup 3.5 disks of 
> any 
> > of 
> > > the 4 sampleformats supported by DPX.
> > > It's this type of backup disk which can perfectly be created 
on a 
> > PC.
> > > 
> > > So the only thing we need is a program which can translate EII 
> > > SoundDesigner files (and S900/Mirage/Prophet files) into this 
> > > proprietary DPX-1 format :-)
> > > That might be EMXP... but I'm not promising anything. The DPX 
> > format 
> > > must be rev engineered and that's pretty time consuming.
> > > 
> > > ///E-Synthesist 
> > > 
> > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Heiko Mehring" 
> > > <Mehrings@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello emulators,
> > > > 
> > > > as far as I know, the only way to create EII-disks is with 
an 
> > EII. 
> > > > The Sounddesigner-program just creates soundfiles in 
> > sounddesigner-
> > > > format.
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards
> > > > Heiko
> > > > 
> > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" 
<elmbeatz@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > > 
> > > > > As far as I know, the only way to create E-II 
disks 'outside' 
> > the 
> > > > E-II
> > > > > is to use a macintosh with Sound Designer II software 
> > connected 
> > > to 
> > > > the
> > > > > E-II via RS-422 serial interface. But there's a BRILLIANT 
> > > software 
> > > > for
> > > > > Windows XP called EMXP ( http://users.skynet.be/emxp/ ) 
which 
> > can 
> > > > give
> > > > > you a workaround (convert wavs to E-II etc.) 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Take a look at that, it may be very interesting for you!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > Elm.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-02 by somethingkillingyou

I'll give it a go, thank you very much!

p.s.
my DPX-1 is under repair now.... 
the power supply fried one hour after I turned it on, the same day I 
bought it...
so I'm in no way an expert with it :(

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "hexafuzz" <gclip@...> wrote:
>
> Youll probably have more luck with the S900 format. A program like
> AkaiDisk will be helpful: http://mda.smartelectronix.com/akai/
> 
> Dont forget that you can also use SDS to get samples into the DPX-1
> and then save in native DPX format on floppy as stated by 
esynthesist.
>

Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-02 by hexafuzz

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "somethingkillingyou"
<somethingkillingyou@...> wrote:
>
> IMHO, I think that after all this time, since the guys who did the 
> original libraries are NOT gaining anymore from their hard work, it 
> is in our RIGHT to burn our own disk bypassing third-parts 
> vendors...

While I realize it can be frustrating to buy a second hand instrument
with no sound library, some of the original library vendors ARE still
gaining from their work. It is also not for us to decide what can be
done with someone elses work, no matter what the current market value.
We still have options *because* of the original vendors who choose to
continue to make their libraries available; we should support that.

If you want Emulator-II samples for your DPX-1, I suggest you purchase
floppy disks from Northstar or find someone who is willing to trade
with you on floppy disk.

http://www.northstarsamples.com/EIIFloppies.html
http://www.northstarsamples.com/AkaiS9xxFloppies.html

Re: hi! new Oberheim DPX-1 user...

2007-11-02 by esynthesist

I've uploaded a ZIP package containing 2 EmuII factory banks from Emu.
(GrandPiano 3 and ARP2600, two disks that happened to be on my studio 
table :-)
They are in DPX-1 disk format. Use OmniFlop to create the disks.
Instructions are included in the ZIP package.
You can find them here: 
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/emulatorII-list/files/Samples/

I hope it works... 

///E-Synthesist

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "somethingkillingyou" 
<somethingkillingyou@...> wrote:
>
> thank you very much! 
> now it is all much more clear!
> 
> I just don't understand HOW is it possible that there is no other 
> way to "burn" directly in the EII format...
> 
> I hope that the guy who's trying to hack it with a PC will find a 
> workaround... :)
> 
> btw that's really strange that there is no software for smtg like 
> this, be it in a mac or pc or amiga or even commodore or atari 
> form...
> 
> some dpx-1 disk images would be really fine!
> 
> IMHO, I think that after all this time, since the guys who did the 
> original libraries are NOT gaining anymore from their hard work, it 
> is in our RIGHT to burn our own disk bypassing third-parts 
vendors...
> 
> 
> Fabio
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" 
> <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I forgot to confirm what the other members already said: 
> it's 
> > not possible to format/create an EII floppy disk if you don't 
have 
> an 
> > EII. The EII is the only piece of hardware which is capable of 
> > creating its own disks.
> > (but I know of someone who's trying to hack this on his PC :-)
> > 
> > Here's a workaround though: someone who owns both an EII and a 
DPX-
> I 
> > (like me) can load an EII disk in the DPX and save it on 3.5 disk 
> on 
> > the DPX. 
> > This 3.5 disk can be copied to a disk image file on a WinXP PC 
> using 
> > OmniFlop.
> > Once you receive/download this file, you can do the other way 
> around: 
> > you can save the DPX image file back on a 3.5 disk on your WinXP 
> PC 
> > with OmniFlop.
> > This disk then can be loaded on your DPX-1.
> > And voila, you'll have a real EII performance bank on your DPX.
> > 
> > Simple, isn't it :-)
> > 
> > Maybe I will put one or two of such DPX/EII diskimages in the 
> files 
> > section of this group, including short instructions how to use 
> > OmniFlop for those read/save operations.
> > 
> > ///E-Synthesist 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "somethingkillingyou" 
> > <somethingkillingyou@> wrote:
> > >
> > > maybe I'm a moron, but I don't know what's the problem with DPX-
> 1 
> > > and EMPX at all...
> > > 
> > > is it possible to format a disk that will work on a Emulator II 
> > from 
> > > my pc?
> > > 
> > > if Emulator II can read a floppy, the DXP-1 sample player will 
> read 
> > > it as well...
> > > 
> > > I "simply" need some disk formatted in emulator II format...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" 
> > > <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe one day (very) far in the future EMXP will also support 
> DPX 
> > > > directly. 
> > > > 
> > > > The DPX 3.5 disks can be read by a PC (with OmniFlop) so 
these 
> > can 
> > > be 
> > > > created on a PC for sure. I tried this a year ago.
> > > > Higher OS versions of the DPX-1 can create backup 3.5 disks 
of 
> > any 
> > > of 
> > > > the 4 sampleformats supported by DPX.
> > > > It's this type of backup disk which can perfectly be created 
> on a 
> > > PC.
> > > > 
> > > > So the only thing we need is a program which can translate 
EII 
> > > > SoundDesigner files (and S900/Mirage/Prophet files) into this 
> > > > proprietary DPX-1 format :-)
> > > > That might be EMXP... but I'm not promising anything. The DPX 
> > > format 
> > > > must be rev engineered and that's pretty time consuming.
> > > > 
> > > > ///E-Synthesist 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Heiko Mehring" 
> > > > <Mehrings@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello emulators,
> > > > > 
> > > > > as far as I know, the only way to create EII-disks is with 
> an 
> > > EII. 
> > > > > The Sounddesigner-program just creates soundfiles in 
> > > sounddesigner-
> > > > > format.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > > Heiko
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" 
> <elmbeatz@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As far as I know, the only way to create E-II 
> disks 'outside' 
> > > the 
> > > > > E-II
> > > > > > is to use a macintosh with Sound Designer II software 
> > > connected 
> > > > to 
> > > > > the
> > > > > > E-II via RS-422 serial interface. But there's a BRILLIANT 
> > > > software 
> > > > > for
> > > > > > Windows XP called EMXP ( http://users.skynet.be/emxp/ ) 
> which 
> > > can 
> > > > > give
> > > > > > you a workaround (convert wavs to E-II etc.) 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Take a look at that, it may be very interesting for you!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > Elm.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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