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OK, response from Bruce Forat:

'The ones that we use have LED backlight (Blue/ White text) same as what you see offered for the SP1200 on our site at www.forat.com/service however they are not direct replacements and require mods. There's someone selling the original SP1200 displays on eBay and I think it should work on the EII as well':

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-MU-EMU-SP1200-SP-1200-SP-1200-Replacement-Display-/290475275179?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a1acf3ab

$104 is steep but attempting to clarify the make/model of these with the seller. Also found someone in UK that appears to have replaced theirs and will update if/when further details come back.

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" wrote:
>
> Well, Crystalfontz have replied quickly and are suggesting this:
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> http://www.crystalfontz.com/product/CFAH1602A-YYH-JT
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> Outline dimensions match, viewing area very similar and with backlight. Same 5V voltage supply. $20 approx. ($50 ! with postage to UK). I need to confirm compatibility (?) as know little on electronics. Got a couple of contacts, will see what comes back.
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>
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
> >
> > Forat charges $175 for the SP1200 LCD swap which includes the part and
> > labor. Now what he does in the inside is anyone's guess. I'm assuming
> > tweaks to the
> > inverter and maybe some resistor swaps to get the angle just right. I
> > figure it will be your most utilized part used on the machine so a good
> > display is a must.
> > A non-scratched and clean LCD section on the label helps too on the EII.
> >
> > Also try www.backlight4you.com and Stefan could help you. They have colors
> > too other than green. Glow Hut has colors also. I think the Telesis units
> > just
> > use a gel which is hard to see when you have black/gray letters trying to
> > come through.
> >
> > Noritake's vacuum fluorescent LCD would be interesting too. I think you
> > would be paving new ground here if you pull this off!
> >
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> > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:28 AM, wrote:
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> > > While I have never met Bruce Forat in person, he was extremely cordial and
> > > knowledgeable when I sent him my LinnDrum for repair. His services are not
> > > cheap, though (he's among the most expensive techs I've dealt with over the
> > > years), so you may want to keep that in mind if you end up purchasing
> > > anything from him.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon Oct 18 1:58 , James Ulibarri sent:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Crystalfontz America, Inc., 12412 East Saltese Avenue Spokane Valley, WA
> > > 99216-0357
> > > Tel: (509) 892-1200, Fax: (509) 892-1203, Toll Free: (888) 206-9720
> > > sales@
> > >;
> > > and
> > >
> > > Forat.com
> > >
>; > > Bruce Forat used to build drum machines in the 80's and is responsible for
> > > the F9000 and F16 and a ton of other stuff. He now mostly mods machines or
> > > repairs them and custom paint jobs. I helped him do sysex dumps on his
> > > Prophet 10 till 5 in the morning a few weeks ago and then had to drive home
> > > 2.5 hours. Not your average friday night!
> > >
> > > Let us know how it goes. I want to replace one of my EII's display too.
> > > There is room for improvement there I think.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:10 AM, jmp701 wrote:
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >;> Thanks James, I've just tried a search at Crystal Fontz and there was no
> > >> exact match but will email them the details.
> > >>
> > >> According to the EPR site, the EII display is the same as the SP12 and
> > >> original grey cased SP1200, is that what you have? I've heard the 'Forat'
> > >> name bounced about a few times now, where or how is he contactable?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for your help.
> > >>
> > >> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Send the EPR pictures to the Crystal Fontz and maybe they can match it
> > >> up
> > >> > with one of theirs. I did that with my Emu Command Station and the LCD
> > >> came
> > >> > out beautiful (blue back-lit with white letters, verses stock green). A
> > >> > massive improvement over stock. You may want to touch base with Forat
> > >> > also. He has my SP1200 and he's fitting it with one of his blue LCD's in
> > >> > the 1200 now. He did my last one, and it's a *huge* improvement over the
> > >> > 20+ years old LCD's. And I think the the EII and 1200's lcd's are
> > >> > similar. Or you can throw in a $30 foil from Telesis, but I wouldn't
> > >> > expect too much there.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:27 AM, jmp701 wrote:
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> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks for the responses but they're out of stock at EPR:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > http://www.eprelectronics.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=49
> > >>; > >
> > >> > > I've already replaced the backlight and was looking to replace just
> > >> the LCD
> > >> > > module (screen and PCB attached) as the characters are fading.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I've now found some exact size (PCB and viewing area) new LCD modules,
> > >> one
> > >> > > supplied with a backlight, the others without. 16/2 lines and 5V
> > >> voltage is
> > >> > > the same but wouldn't know otherwise if compatible.... Does anyone
> > >> know if
> > >> > > LCD's supplied without backlights can be fitted with them (i.e. with
> > >> the one
> > >> > > I have currently) or do they generally not have the facility to insert
> > >> a
> > >> > > backlight if not originally supplied with one?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The two I'm looking at are Trident Trimods1538STNLEDTFV (with
> > >> backlight) or
> > >> >; > maybe AZ Displays ACM1602A Series (think this one is Sharp
> > >> manufactured)
> > >> > > without backlight.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > >>
> > >> > > James Ulibarri wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > EPR has them.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >; On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:50 PM, "Gil" wrote:
> > >> > >; >
> > >> > > > > Do you need the entire circuit or only the backlight ?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com40yahoogroups.com>,
> > >>
> > >> > > "jmp701" wrote:
> > >>; > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Just done a search and can't find the info, so...
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Anyone know of an available replacement LCD for the EII? Closest
> > >> > > > > I've found to the original Optrex DMC-16207N-EB have slighlty
> > >> > > > > different outline sizes and viewing areas (by mm) and not sure if
> > >> > > > > these could be used?
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> > >> > > > > > If anyone has been able to replace one successfully, would
> > >> > >; > > appreciate details of what LCD module they used. Cheers.
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