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Re: EII LCD Display

2010-10-18 by jmp701

Well, Crystalfontz have replied quickly and are suggesting this: 

http://www.crystalfontz.com/product/CFAH1602A-YYH-JT

Outline dimensions match, viewing area very similar and with backlight. Same 5V voltage supply. $20 approx. ($50 ! with postage to UK). I need to confirm compatibility (?) as know little on electronics. Got a couple of contacts, will see what comes back. 
 

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> Forat charges $175 for the SP1200 LCD swap which includes the part and
> labor.  Now what he does in the inside is anyone's guess. I'm assuming
> tweaks to the
> inverter and maybe some resistor swaps to get the angle just right.   I
> figure it will be your most utilized part used on the machine so a good
> display is a must.
> A non-scratched and clean LCD section on the label helps too on the EII.
> 
> Also try www.backlight4you.com and Stefan could help you.  They have colors
> too other than green.  Glow Hut has colors also.  I think the Telesis units
> just
> use a gel which is hard to see when you have black/gray letters trying to
> come through.
> 
> Noritake's vacuum fluorescent LCD would be interesting too.   I think you
> would be paving new ground here if you pull this off!
> 
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> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:28 AM, <brandt@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > While I have never met Bruce Forat in person, he was extremely cordial and
> > knowledgeable when I sent him my LinnDrum for repair. His services are not
> > cheap, though (he's among the most expensive techs I've dealt with over the
> > years), so you may want to keep that in mind if you end up purchasing
> > anything from him.
> >
> >
> > On Mon Oct 18 1:58 , James Ulibarri sent:
> >
> >
> >
> > Crystalfontz America, Inc., 12412 East Saltese Avenue Spokane Valley, WA
> > 99216-0357
> > Tel: (509) 892-1200, Fax: (509) 892-1203, Toll Free: (888) 206-9720
> > sales@...
> >
> > and
> >
> > Forat.com
> >
> > Bruce Forat used to build drum machines in the 80's and is responsible for
> > the F9000 and F16 and a ton of other stuff.  He now mostly mods machines or
> > repairs them and custom paint jobs.   I helped him do sysex dumps on his
> > Prophet 10 till 5 in the morning a few weeks ago and then had to drive home
> > 2.5 hours. Not your average friday night!
> >
> > Let us know how it goes.  I want to replace one of my EII's display too.
> > There is room for improvement there I think.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:10 AM, jmp701 <jmp70@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks James, I've just tried a search at Crystal Fontz and there was no
> >> exact match but will email them the details.
> >>
> >> According to the EPR site, the EII display is the same as the SP12 and
> >> original grey cased SP1200, is that what you have? I've heard the 'Forat'
> >> name bounced about a few times now, where or how is he contactable?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
> >> >
> >>  > Send the EPR pictures to the Crystal Fontz and maybe they can match it
> >> up
> >> > with one of theirs. I did that with my Emu Command Station and the LCD
> >> came
> >> > out beautiful (blue back-lit with white letters, verses stock green). A
> >> > massive improvement over stock. You may want to touch base with Forat
> >> > also. He has my SP1200 and he's fitting it with one of his blue LCD's in
> >> > the 1200 now. He did my last one, and it's a *huge* improvement over the
> >> > 20+ years old LCD's. And I think the the EII and 1200's lcd's are
> >> > similar. Or you can throw in a $30 foil from Telesis, but I wouldn't
> >> > expect too much there.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>  > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:27 AM, jmp701 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks for the responses but they're out of stock at EPR:
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.eprelectronics.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=49
> >> > >
> >> > > I've already replaced the backlight and was looking to replace just
> >> the LCD
> >> > > module (screen and PCB attached) as the characters are fading.
> >> > >
> >> > > I've now found some exact size (PCB and viewing area) new LCD modules,
> >> one
> >> > > supplied with a backlight, the others without. 16/2 lines and 5V
> >> voltage is
> >> > > the same but wouldn't know otherwise if compatible.... Does anyone
> >> know if
> >> > > LCD's supplied without backlights can be fitted with them (i.e. with
> >> the one
> >> > > I have currently) or do they generally not have the facility to insert
> >> a
> >> > > backlight if not originally supplied with one?
> >> > >
> >> > > The two I'm looking at are Trident Trimods1538STNLEDTFV (with
> >> backlight) or
> >> > > maybe AZ Displays ACM1602A Series (think this one is Sharp
> >> manufactured)
> >> > > without backlight.
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers.
> >> > >
> >>  > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> >>
> >> > > James Ulibarri wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > EPR has them.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:50 PM, "Gil" wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Do you need the entire circuit or only the backlight ?
> >> > > > >
> >>  > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com40yahoogroups.com>,
> >>
> >> > > "jmp701" wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Just done a search and can't find the info, so...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Anyone know of an available replacement LCD for the EII? Closest
> >> > > > > I've found to the original Optrex DMC-16207N-EB have slighlty
> >> > > > > different outline sizes and viewing areas (by mm) and not sure if
> >> > > > > these could be used?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > If anyone has been able to replace one successfully, would
> >> > > > > appreciate details of what LCD module they used. Cheers.
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