Hehehe......well.....no. To finish this project ! I want it, yesterday. Sadly, I have not got the skills you need. WT ----- Original Message ----- From: "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 3:59 PM Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: New version of EMXP with RS422 support > Mentally you mean :-) ? > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "WT" <waveterm@...> wrote: >> >> You need help. >> >> WT >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> >> To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:49 AM >> Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: New version of EMXP with RS422 support >> >> >> > That's my next project :-) >> > >> > I think I have the full RS422 instruction set re-engineered during the >> > past weeks, so most functions of the EII are controllable via USB/RS422 >> > now. And thus also by a VST. >> > Unfortunately this instruction set is lacking a few fundamental >> > instructions: creating (= adding new) presets, voices and samples. The >> > instructions so far always assume existing presets, samples and voices >> > in >> > the EII memory. >> > The Emax SYSEX instruction set is better from this perspective. >> > >> > However, there's a work around which makes really everything possible >> > (but >> > it will take more communication/processing time for the above mentioned >> > functions). >> > Maybe I can even find some tricks to do it in another -faster- way, >> > because the EII instruction set is so low-level that it's probably >> > possible to cheat the machine and to go further than SoundDesigner for >> > EII >> > ever did. >> > >> > Now I urgently have to study how to design and code VSTs :-) >> > And plug the whole EMXP codebase into that thing. >> > A multi year plan I guess... >> > Especially because the Mirage, DSS1 and Prophet 2000 are waiting for >> > some >> > support by EMXP too... >> > Not to forget a GUI... >> > >> > ///E-Synthesist >> > >> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "adrien" <ad9@> wrote: >> >> >> >> yeah ! that's what i want ! and after the EMU, it'll be called ... >> >> the >> >> "i mu" ! loool >> >> or even, a wi mu , controled by wi fi. >> >> yeah, definitely, a vst emu controler - samples browser/loader - >> >> classified samples, into Cubase. >> >> VSTOR ! in ... Emulator against the Terminator ! >> >> We all know that this blue beast is alive .... >> >> ; ) >> >> off course it's possible, but i'm not qualified to understand how to >> >> do. >> >> >> >> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri >> >> <jamesulibarri@> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > No i think the last step will be when the software becomes VST >> >> > compatible. >> >> > That way the soft interface could sit in an Ableton rack like >> >> > MidiQuest does >> >> > for certain machines being controlled via sysex and CC's. GUI drag >> >> > and drop >> >> > for Clips, .waves, and EII voices would be amazing too. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Sent from my iPhone >> >> > >> >> > On Oct 15, 2010, at 5:05 PM, "adrien" <ad9@> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Thank you ; ) >> >> > > bought it ! >> >> > > >> >> > > 1 TEENSY Teensy USB Board 18.00 18.00 >> >> > > 1 CABLE_USB_MINI_B USB Cable, 5 pin Mini-B type 4.00 4.00 >> >> > > 2 HEADER_5x1_D Pins (header), 5 pins, 0.1 inch (2.54 mm) spacing, >> >> > > Double Insulator 0.65 1.30 >> >> > > 1 HEADER_20x1 Pins (header), 20 pins, 0.1 inch (2.54 mm) spacing >> >> > > 0.80 >> >> > > 2 LED_RGB_CC_T1 RGB LED (Red, Green, Blue) + Resistors 1.00 2.00 >> >> > > >> >> > > maybe some unusefull stuffs i bought, but nevermind. >> >> > > i've build a Marshall 1969 plexi 100 watts clone ( jimi >> >> > > Hendrix ... , fillmore east, woodstock ... ) , some fuzz effects, >> >> > > some univibes, some repairs on an echoplex ep3, or on an italian >> >> > > vox >> >> > > 846, so i think i'll be ok for the soldering. >> >> > > can't wait ! ; ) >> >> > > i'm allready collecting the emax samples on the other yahoo group, >> >> > > but i wonder if there's a site where it's possible to get every >> >> > > sample library ever made for the emax, to complete my emulator II >> >> > > librarys. i'll try to collect every samples that the EMXP can use, >> >> > > and try it in my emulator II, with a soundfont version for each >> >> > > sample, so i could use them on a laptop, for lives too. >> >> > > >> >> > > i think that the last step will be that one day, the emulator II >> >> > > might be controled from a pc, like with sound designer, but with a >> >> > > usb cable ; ) >> >> > > a new sound designer software, linked with emxp that could load >> >> > > samples just like some itunes software ; ) >> >> > > >> >> > > thanks again, >> >> > > Adrien >> >> > > >> >> > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" >> >> > > <esynthesist@> wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > 52 Weeks ? >> >> > > > They must be kidding... >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Anyway, the E-Muser uses the $18 Teensy 2.0 board without pins >> >> > > > BUT >> >> > > you'll have to solder 5 of those pins yourself then (because only >> >> > > 5 >> >> > > pins are used). >> >> > > > You could order the version with pins to avoid the soldering, >> >> > > > but >> >> > > in that case a small change will be required on the printboard to >> >> > > avoid shortcuts (a very small change, don't worry - I might >> >> > > indicate >> >> > > it even in the instructions...) >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Compared with the EmuComBox, some additional electronic >> >> > > > components >> >> > > are used in the E-MuSer (just for comfort purposes): >> >> > > > - 1 standard green and 1 standard red LED >> >> > > > - 2 resistors of 330 Ohm (for the LEDs) >> >> > > > - I used 4600 Ohm resistors instead of the 5100 Ohm ones in the >> >> > > EmuComBox, but that is not important... >> >> > > > - one standard (cheap) printboard with cupper lanes on it, >> >> > > > either >> >> > > epoxy or cardboard sized minimum 6 cm by 6 cm. >> >> > > > - 1 DB9 SUBD female connector. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > For cases and cables it depends on your needs and wishes; the >> >> > > print design allows for cases/housings as small as 6.3 by 6.3 cm. >> >> > > > For mechanical stuff e.g. to attach connector and other >> >> > > > components >> >> > > to the printboard, you'd better wait for the build manual. >> >> > > > You may have to order or shop for additional parts for that... >> >> > > > >> >> > > > ///E-Synthesist >> >> > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "adrien" <ad9@> wrote: >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Thank you ! i can't wait ! ; ) i should perhaps buy one of >> >> > > > > these >> >> > > teensy, but there's two choices : >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Teensy, $18 >> >> > > > > Teensy With Pins, $21 >> >> > > > > USB Cable, $4 >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > and different versions of the teensy : >> >> > > > > http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > i should probably wait until you've finished the manual. but >> >> > > > > if >> >> > > i order the right parts now, i could be ready to build it when >> >> > > you'll communicate the e-muser build instructions. >> >> > > > > if you 're sure of wich parts i should buy allready, please >> >> > > > > tell >> >> > > me if you have some time for this, ad i'll order it. or if you >> >> > > have >> >> > > a price for a finished e-muser , by yourself ( so it'd be sure >> >> > > that >> >> > > it would work fine also ) , please tell me. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > here is the answer of deanna wild, at atmel, she tracked some >> >> > > infos for me about the at90usbkey. i've answered with your reply, >> >> > > into my mail, so she'll know too that atmel almost gave you a >> >> > > heart >> >> > > attack ! ; ) >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > "Atmel has made a change to the above mentioned part number. >> >> > > > > It >> >> > > is the exact same product, but it is now AT90USBKEY2. We do not >> >> > > have >> >> > > stock and LT for this is 52 weeks." >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Thanks again, can't wait ; ) >> >> > > > > Adrien >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" >> >> > > <esynthesist@> wrote: >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > This was indeed bad news a few months ago... once Julian and >> >> > > > > > I >> >> > > got the EmuComBox finally up and running, the main component was >> >> > > suddenly out of stock and put in backorder everywhere. >> >> > > > > > Atmel had put the production on hold, and it's unclear if >> >> > > > > > and >> >> > > when production will start up again. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Some other AVR boards can be used too though, although the >> >> > > firmware must slightly be adapted and of course recompiled. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > The next-generation EmuComBox, called E-MuSer, is not using >> >> > > the AT90USBKEY anymore; it uses the Teensy board from pjrc. >> >> > > > > > The Teensy board of the E-MuSer uses an ATMEGA32U4 processor >> >> > > which is not so powerful as the AT90USB1287, but it's fine for the >> >> > > E- >> >> > > Mu high speed RS422 communication requirement. The AT90USB1286 >> >> > > will >> >> > > do the job too, as well as some others (probably the 162 too). >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > I almost got a heart attack when I heard from PJRC, just >> >> > > > > > after >> >> > > having successfully built the E-MuSer, that their Teensy boards >> >> > > (all >> >> > > variants) were out of stock and that they were having trouble to >> >> > > build new ones due to... production problems at Atmel. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Fortunately PJRC succeeded in getting their hands on another >> >> > > batch of ATMEGAs, so the Teensy can be ordered again. See >> >> > > www.pjrc.com >> >> > > > > > I will receive a few of them one of the next days; I will >> >> > > > > > also >> >> > > build a few E-MuSers in the coming weeks/months when I have spare >> >> > > time :-) >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > I still have to write the full "howto build an E-MuSer" >> >> > > document and publish it on the emxp website. This document will be >> >> > > much more detailed than the current EmuComBox document. >> >> > > > > > It will contain many photographs of the device from PCB till >> >> > > final product, a step by step explanation of how to build the >> >> > > device >> >> > > and a layout for a compact printboard (not pcb...) (6cm by 6cm) >> >> > > which can hold the full E-MuSer circuitry. >> >> > > > > > ...this document will be written when I have time left :-) >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > ///E-Synthesist >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "adrien" <ad9@> >> >> > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > i realise how great it is, and it's too bad because i >> >> > > > > > > can't >> >> > > find a AT90USBKEY 1287. as some others asked, could i buy from you >> >> > > a >> >> > > working emucombox ? >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" >> >> > > <esynthesist@> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > The RS422 support has been released in the newest >> >> > > > > > > > version >> >> > > of EMXP today. >> >> > > > > > > > You can download this version (for free of course) on >> >> > > > > > > > http://www.emxp.net >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > As announced a while ago, this version allows serial >> >> > > communication between EMXP on Windows XP (or higher) and the >> >> > > Emax-I >> >> > > or Emulator II. >> >> > > > > > > > Sound banks can now be uploaded and downloaded without >> >> > > having to use a vintage Mac computer anymore... >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > ...you will need a custom built USB-RS422 adapter though >> >> > > > > > > > :) >> >> > > > > > > > Details how to build this adapter yourself can be found >> >> > > > > > > > on >> >> > > > > > > > http://www.emxp.net >> >> > > also. The thing is called EMUCOMBOX - OK, I admit this name is >> >> > > the >> >> > > result of a weak moment of low creativity. >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Anyway, I'd like to give credits to and thank MrJulian >> >> > > (fellow member on the Yahoo Emax Group) a lot for making this >> >> > > possible by sending me a jumpstart prototype last year. A new >> >> > > world >> >> > > went open for Emu Emax/EII fans. >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Note: in the future a smaller and easier-to-build >> >> > > > > > > > version >> >> > > of the adapter may be released, based on another microprocessor >> >> > > board. >> >> > > > > > > > The current one is working fine, but be aware that some >> >> > > > > > > > of >> >> > > the soldering will be quite tricky ! >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Have fun >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > ///E-Synthesist >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a >> >> > > New >> >> > > Topic >> >> > > Messages in this topic (9) >> >> > > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 3 >> >> > > Visit Your Group >> >> > > MARKETPLACE >> >> > > Get great advice about dogs and cats. 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Re: [emulatorII-list] Re: New version of EMXP with RS422 support
2010-10-16 by WT
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