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From: "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:49 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: New version of EMXP with RS422 support


> That's my next project :-)
>
> I think I have the full RS422 instruction set re-engineered during the 
> past weeks, so most functions of the EII are controllable via USB/RS422 
> now. And thus also by a VST.
> Unfortunately this instruction set is lacking a few fundamental 
> instructions: creating (= adding new) presets, voices and samples. The 
> instructions so far always assume existing presets, samples and voices in 
> the EII memory.
> The Emax SYSEX instruction set is better from this perspective.
>
> However, there's a work around which makes really everything possible (but 
> it will take more communication/processing time for the above mentioned 
> functions).
> Maybe I can even find some tricks to do it in another -faster- way, 
> because the EII instruction set is so low-level that it's probably 
> possible to cheat the machine and to go further than SoundDesigner for EII 
> ever did.
>
> Now I urgently have to study how to design and code VSTs :-)
> And plug the whole EMXP codebase into that thing.
> A multi year plan I guess...
> Especially because the Mirage, DSS1 and Prophet 2000 are waiting for some 
> support by EMXP too...
> Not to forget a GUI...
>
> ///E-Synthesist
>
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "adrien" <ad9@...> wrote:
>>
>> yeah ! that's what i want !  and after the EMU, it'll be called  ... the 
>> "i mu" !  loool
>> or even, a wi mu , controled by wi fi.
>> yeah, definitely, a vst emu controler - samples browser/loader - 
>> classified samples, into Cubase.
>> VSTOR ! in ... Emulator against the Terminator !
>> We all know that this blue beast is alive ....
>> ; )
>> off course it's possible, but i'm not qualified to understand how to do.
>>
>> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@> 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > No i think the last step will be when the software becomes VST
>> > compatible.
>> > That way the soft interface could sit in an Ableton rack like
>> > MidiQuest does
>> > for certain machines being controlled via sysex and CC's.  GUI drag
>> > and drop
>> > for Clips, .waves, and EII voices would be amazing too.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Oct 15, 2010, at 5:05 PM, "adrien" <ad9@> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thank you ; )
>> > > bought it !
>> > >
>> > > 1 TEENSY Teensy USB Board 18.00 18.00
>> > > 1 CABLE_USB_MINI_B USB Cable, 5 pin Mini-B type 4.00 4.00
>> > > 2 HEADER_5x1_D Pins (header), 5 pins, 0.1 inch (2.54 mm) spacing,
>> > > Double Insulator 0.65 1.30
>> > > 1 HEADER_20x1 Pins (header), 20 pins, 0.1 inch (2.54 mm) spacing 0.80
>> > > 2 LED_RGB_CC_T1 RGB LED (Red, Green, Blue) + Resistors 1.00 2.00
>> > >
>> > > maybe some unusefull stuffs i bought, but nevermind.
>> > > i've build a Marshall 1969 plexi 100 watts clone ( jimi
>> > > Hendrix ... , fillmore east, woodstock ... ) , some fuzz effects,
>> > > some univibes, some repairs on an echoplex ep3, or on an italian vox
>> > > 846, so i think i'll be ok for the soldering.
>> > > can't wait ! ; )
>> > > i'm allready collecting the emax samples on the other yahoo group,
>> > > but i wonder if there's a site where it's possible to get every
>> > > sample library ever made for the emax, to complete my emulator II
>> > > librarys. i'll try to collect every samples that the EMXP can use,
>> > > and try it in my emulator II, with a soundfont version for each
>> > > sample, so i could use them on a laptop, for lives too.
>> > >
>> > > i think that the last step will be that one day, the emulator II
>> > > might be controled from a pc, like with sound designer, but with a
>> > > usb cable ; )
>> > > a new sound designer software, linked with emxp that could load
>> > > samples just like some itunes software ; )
>> > >
>> > > thanks again,
>> > > Adrien
>> > >
>> > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist"
>> > > <esynthesist@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > 52 Weeks ?
>> > > > They must be kidding...
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyway, the E-Muser uses the $18 Teensy 2.0 board without pins BUT
>> > > you'll have to solder 5 of those pins yourself then (because only 5
>> > > pins are used).
>> > > > You could order the version with pins to avoid the soldering, but
>> > > in that case a small change will be required on the printboard to
>> > > avoid shortcuts (a very small change, don't worry - I might indicate
>> > > it even in the instructions...)
>> > > >
>> > > > Compared with the EmuComBox, some additional electronic components
>> > > are used in the E-MuSer (just for comfort purposes):
>> > > > - 1 standard green and 1 standard red LED
>> > > > - 2 resistors of 330 Ohm (for the LEDs)
>> > > > - I used 4600 Ohm resistors instead of the 5100 Ohm ones in the
>> > > EmuComBox, but that is not important...
>> > > > - one standard (cheap) printboard with cupper lanes on it, either
>> > > epoxy or cardboard sized minimum 6 cm by 6 cm.
>> > > > - 1 DB9 SUBD female connector.
>> > > >
>> > > > For cases and cables it depends on your needs and wishes; the
>> > > print design allows for cases/housings as small as 6.3 by 6.3 cm.
>> > > > For mechanical stuff e.g. to attach connector and other components
>> > > to the printboard, you'd better wait for the build manual.
>> > > > You may have to order or shop for additional parts for that...
>> > > >
>> > > > ///E-Synthesist
>> > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "adrien" <ad9@> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank you ! i can't wait ! ; ) i should perhaps buy one of these
>> > > teensy, but there's two choices :
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Teensy, $18
>> > > > > Teensy With Pins, $21
>> > > > > USB Cable, $4
>> > > > >
>> > > > > and different versions of the teensy : 
>> > > > > http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html
>> > > > >
>> > > > > i should probably wait until you've finished the manual. but if
>> > > i order the right parts now, i could be ready to build it when
>> > > you'll communicate the e-muser build instructions.
>> > > > > if you 're sure of wich parts i should buy allready, please tell
>> > > me if you have some time for this, ad i'll order it. or if you have
>> > > a price for a finished e-muser , by yourself ( so it'd be sure that
>> > > it would work fine also ) , please tell me.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > here is the answer of deanna wild, at atmel, she tracked some
>> > > infos for me about the at90usbkey. i've answered with your reply,
>> > > into my mail, so she'll know too that atmel almost gave you a heart
>> > > attack ! ; )
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Atmel has made a change to the above mentioned part number. It
>> > > is the exact same product, but it is now AT90USBKEY2. We do not have
>> > > stock and LT for this is 52 weeks."
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks again, can't wait ; )
>> > > > > Adrien
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist"
>> > > <esynthesist@> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > This was indeed bad news a few months ago... once Julian and I
>> > > got the EmuComBox finally up and running, the main component was
>> > > suddenly out of stock and put in backorder everywhere.
>> > > > > > Atmel had put the production on hold, and it's unclear if and
>> > > when production will start up again.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Some other AVR boards can be used too though, although the
>> > > firmware must slightly be adapted and of course recompiled.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The next-generation EmuComBox, called E-MuSer, is not using
>> > > the AT90USBKEY anymore; it uses the Teensy board from pjrc.
>> > > > > > The Teensy board of the E-MuSer uses an ATMEGA32U4 processor
>> > > which is not so powerful as the AT90USB1287, but it's fine for the E-
>> > > Mu high speed RS422 communication requirement. The AT90USB1286 will
>> > > do the job too, as well as some others (probably the 162 too).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I almost got a heart attack when I heard from PJRC, just after
>> > > having successfully built the E-MuSer, that their Teensy boards (all
>> > > variants) were out of stock and that they were having trouble to
>> > > build new ones due to... production problems at Atmel.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Fortunately PJRC succeeded in getting their hands on another
>> > > batch of ATMEGAs, so the Teensy can be ordered again. See 
>> > > www.pjrc.com
>> > > > > > I will receive a few of them one of the next days; I will also
>> > > build a few E-MuSers in the coming weeks/months when I have spare
>> > > time :-)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I still have to write the full "howto build an E-MuSer"
>> > > document and publish it on the emxp website. This document will be
>> > > much more detailed than the current EmuComBox document.
>> > > > > > It will contain many photographs of the device from PCB till
>> > > final product, a step by step explanation of how to build the device
>> > > and a layout for a compact printboard (not pcb...) (6cm by 6cm)
>> > > which can hold the full E-MuSer circuitry.
>> > > > > > ...this document will be written when I have time left :-)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ///E-Synthesist
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "adrien" <ad9@> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > i realise how great it is, and it's too bad because i can't
>> > > find a AT90USBKEY 1287. as some others asked, could i buy from you a
>> > > working emucombox ?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist"
>> > > <esynthesist@> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > The RS422 support has been released in the newest version
>> > > of EMXP today.
>> > > > > > > > You can download this version (for free of course) on 
>> > > > > > > > http://www.emxp.net
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > As announced a while ago, this version allows serial
>> > > communication between EMXP on Windows XP (or higher) and the Emax-I
>> > > or Emulator II.
>> > > > > > > > Sound banks can now be uploaded and downloaded without
>> > > having to use a vintage Mac computer anymore...
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > ...you will need a custom built USB-RS422 adapter though :)
>> > > > > > > > Details how to build this adapter yourself can be found on 
>> > > > > > > > http://www.emxp.net
>> > >  also. The thing is called EMUCOMBOX - OK, I admit this name is the
>> > > result of a weak moment of low creativity.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Anyway, I'd like to give credits to and thank MrJulian
>> > > (fellow member on the Yahoo Emax Group) a lot for making this
>> > > possible by sending me a jumpstart prototype last year. A new world
>> > > went open for Emu Emax/EII fans.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Note: in the future a smaller and easier-to-build version
>> > > of the adapter may be released, based on another microprocessor 
>> > > board.
>> > > > > > > > The current one is working fine, but be aware that some of
>> > > the soldering will be quite tricky !
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Have fun
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > ///E-Synthesist
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