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Re: Do you realize the EII also has a 2 pole filter?

2010-04-02 by futureretro2001

Wow, Mr. Moron, excuse me I mean Morton... I find your response incredibly ignorant. Perhaps we should all just rely on presampled sounds and be content with that. 

FYI, I already have quite an eclectic collection of vintage and modern instruments (more than 100 throughout my years), and am quite fond of 8 bit samplers. However, in my opinion it is obvious that the folks at EMU were more computer engineers than analog circuit designers. Otherwise they would have taken full advantage of the options found in the SSM2045 filter chip (such as 2 pole, 4 pole lowpass filtering, as well as high pass filtering, or using the additional OTA's in that part for panning monophonic sounds) instead of implementing the most basic circuit layout found in the SSM2045 datasheet. Not to mention digital envelopes with 4ms slew rates.
Want to create really snappy percussive sounds anyone? Too bad. 

I always look for ways to expand the capabilities of the machines I use, or step outside the box and use the machine in ways others have possibly overlooked. Otherwise how will we ever discover anything new if we only see things the way someone presents them to us?

I think the most important word in the owners manual is "experiment".

I would hope at least some people on the list might find this modification info useful. And would like to see more people on this list contribute more creative ideas as such to get the most out their equipment. 

My only warning to those wanting to do this mod is, if you do not have the technical and soldering skills, don't attempt to do it.  


--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Morton <doug@...> wrote:
>
> you should get a modern sampler and throw you e2 in the trash
> On Apr 1, 2010, at 11:18 PM, futureretro2001 wrote:
> 
> > So tonight I'm looking at the filter schematics trying to determine why the resonance on one of my voices has a higher Q than the others... and noticed that the SSM2045 filter chip has both 2 pole and 4 pole outputs!
> > Since there is just a single 4.7K resistor connecting the output of the 4 pole filter to the input of the amplifier, it seems quite simple that one could remove this 4.7K resistor, run wires from the 2 and 4 pole outputs each to seperate 4.7K resistors which are then connected to the two positions of a toggle switch, the switch common connection then routed to the input of the amplifier. 
> > Add this stage for each of the eight voices, and then mount the toggle switches just above each voices output jack. 
> > 
> > I think this could create some interesting results. Being able to play both 12db and 24db filter types at the same time. Or creating rhythmic filter type changes as individual notes rotate through the voice assignments. Plus in my opinion with these SSM and CEM chips the resonance seems to sound better on 2 pole settings. 
> > 
> > There is also the ability to use the unused portion of the SSM2045 to create a high pass filter as well, although adding this mod would most likely be a bit more complicated. 
> > 
> > Well I for one am at least going to try seeing what the 2 pole filters sound like.
> > 
> > By the way, has anyone ever used their EII as a stereo sampler?
> > Taking individual left/right samples assigning them to the same key ranges, but sending them to say left/voice 1, and right/voice 2.
> > 
> >
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