Elektron Musical Instruments

I expected a lot of reactions by now but it seems only Ravi has 
recieved his MM.
Doesn't anyone else recieve his? (or her's ;-)
Or is it to complex to make something of it in short notice without 
presets and manual?

Ronald.

Maybe they are too busy playing to come post ;)

On 9/22/03 2:49 AM, "Roonan" <info@...> wrote:

> I expected a lot of reactions by now but it seems only Ravi has
> recieved his MM.
> Doesn't anyone else recieve his? (or her's ;-)
> Or is it to complex to make something of it in short notice without
> presets and manual?
> 
> Ronald.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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I would have a reaction for you if I had my MM.  My landlord decided to take the day off, so when UPS tried to deliver, no one was there to take the package!  I want to kill them!!!!  I had high hopes of going home for lunch and having a new toy to play with.

Stacey

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roonan 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 11:49 PM
  Subject: [elektron] No reactions?


  I expected a lot of reactions by now but it seems only Ravi has 
  recieved his MM.
  Doesn't anyone else recieve his? (or her's ;-)
  Or is it to complex to make something of it in short notice without 
  presets and manual?

  Ronald.


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Another MM has arrived intact in Seattle. 

1st impressions: this joystick is really great - no dead zone. The main
out labels are reversed on the back, like on MD beta. The bottom 5 keys
are kind of "sticking". we'll see if they loosen up with play. They're
serious when they say no presets, no full manual. When you start it up,
you've got GND>SIN up, and you're on your own! Elektron friends from
the MD beta know what they've signed up for... that $discount is
earned. Picky people best wait. Well, gotta go! Woohoo!
-AD

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roonan 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 11:49 PM
  Subject: [elektron] No reactions?


  I expected a lot of reactions by now but it seems only Ravi has 
  recieved his MM.
  Doesn't anyone else recieve his? (or her's ;-)
  Or is it to complex to make something of it in short notice without 
  presets and manual?

  Ronald.

Rockin.  ;-]  I dump all the factory patches on the synths that I can 
shortly after purchase anyway.

My order got lost in the muck, I was told, but has gone out finally.  
I'll be with Monomachine on Wednesday.

On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Andr00 wrote:

> Another MM has arrived intact in Seattle.
>
> 1st impressions: this joystick is really great - no dead zone. The main
> out labels are reversed on the back, like on MD beta. The bottom 5 keys
> are kind of "sticking". we'll see if they loosen up with play. They're
> serious when they say no presets, no full manual. When you start it up,
> you've got GND>SIN up, and you're on your own! Elektron friends from
> the MD beta know what they've signed up for... that $discount is
> earned. Picky people best wait. Well, gotta go! Woohoo!
> -AD
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Roonan
>   To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 11:49 PM
>   Subject: [elektron] No reactions?
>
>
>   I expected a lot of reactions by now but it seems only Ravi has
>   recieved his MM.
>   Doesn't anyone else recieve his? (or her's ;-)
>   Or is it to complex to make something of it in short notice without
>   presets and manual?
>
>   Ronald.
>
>
>
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>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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I just got mine,  very nice interface (both physical + software), 
lots of options. The bad? One of the star-drive screws was missing 
near the joystick, and several of the vertical column of buttons to 
the right of the screen are sticking, as well as some of the 
sequencer buttons. Anyone figure out how to fix this button problem? 
(I assume they are the same buttons found on the MD)









--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Damon Menne <damon@m...> wrote:
> Rockin.  ;-]  I dump all the factory patches on the synths that I 
can 
> shortly after purchase anyway.
> 
> My order got lost in the muck, I was told, but has gone out 
finally.  
> I'll be with Monomachine on Wednesday.
> 
> On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Andr00 wrote:
> 
> > Another MM has arrived intact in Seattle.
> >
> > 1st impressions: this joystick is really great - no dead zone. 
The main
> > out labels are reversed on the back, like on MD beta. The bottom 
5 keys
> > are kind of "sticking". we'll see if they loosen up with play. 
They're
> > serious when they say no presets, no full manual. When you start 
it up,
> > you've got GND>SIN up, and you're on your own! Elektron friends 
from
> > the MD beta know what they've signed up for... that $discount is
> > earned. Picky people best wait. Well, gotta go! Woohoo!
> > -AD
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Roonan
> >   To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 11:49 PM
> >   Subject: [elektron] No reactions?
> >
> >
> >   I expected a lot of reactions by now but it seems only Ravi has
> >   recieved his MM.
> >   Doesn't anyone else recieve his? (or her's ;-)
> >   Or is it to complex to make something of it in short notice 
without
> >   presets and manual?
> >
> >   Ronald.
> >
> >
> >
> <image.tiff>
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of 
Service.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I just got my monomachine running thanks to Flo's help!

I put up a picture of the Machinedrum and Monomachine side by side:
http://socialentropy.com/studio/mono_machine_drum.JPG

I did have a couple of keyboard keys that stuck, but that was because 
of a loose ribbon cable (fixed).  The lowest notes on the keyboard 
are a bit stiff on mine, but it's caused by the felt that is glued to 
the underside of the metal face, when the faceplate is off the keys 
move freely.

As for the sounds and interface, they are awesome so far.  I tried 
out the arpeggiator (I don't usually like arpeggiators) but this one 
is pretty cool, allowing triggers for the amp, filter or LFO to be 
set independently from the notes (you have to try it to understand).

The sound is good, although the formant machine seems very quiet on 
mine (hopefully will be taken care of in a future update).

The sequencer is great and the new layout of the buttons is more 
friendly than on machine drum (the global button for example, or the 
up and down buttons to get to the different edit pages).

I will try and get some sounds up when I get something worthwhile.

cheers
JK



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "kristiankeane" 
<kristiankeane@y...> wrote:
> 
> I just got mine,  very nice interface (both physical + software), 
> lots of options. The bad? One of the star-drive screws was missing 
> near the joystick, and several of the vertical column of buttons to 
> the right of the screen are sticking, as well as some of the 
> sequencer buttons. Anyone figure out how to fix this button 
problem? 
> (I assume they are the same buttons found on the MD)
>]

ripe101 wrote:
> I just got my monomachine running thanks to Flo's help!

Great!
> 
> I put up a picture of the Machinedrum and Monomachine side by side:
> http://socialentropy.com/studio/mono_machine_drum.JPG

Very cool :-)
 
I would be very interested in a short review about the sequencer.

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:17:19PM -0000, ripe101 wrote:
>    I just got my monomachine running thanks to Flo's help!

excellent! Zombie to the rescue! :-)

what ended up working, by the way?

>    I put up a picture of the Machinedrum and Monomachine side by side:
>    [1]http://socialentropy.com/studio/mono_machine_drum.JPG

drool!  I can't fit mine side-by-side on my desk here (damn, the MM is
long!); but I've got some similar Elektron-craziness going on...

>    I did have a couple of keyboard keys that stuck, but that was because
>    of a loose ribbon cable (fixed).  The lowest notes on the keyboard
>    are a bit stiff on mine, but it's caused by the felt that is glued to
>    the underside of the metal face, when the faceplate is off the keys
>    move freely.

well, someone's not afraid to take it apart! :-)

>    The sound is good, although the formant machine seems very quiet on
>    mine (hopefully will be taken care of in a future update).

any tips on using that so far? I messed with it briefly and couldn't get
much to happen.

>    the up and down buttons to get to the different edit pages).

that's VERY nice, given that there are seven edit pages.

Joe

I reloaded the OS via MIDI and that got it running.

Yeah, it is big!  Definitely not very lap-friendly like machinedrum.

So far I have been mainly using the superwave machine, but I will try 
and
get into the formant tonight...

I still can't figure out how to trigger the arp from the sequencer, 
if it's
even possible, or to record the arp to a sequencer track.

cheers
JK

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:17:19PM -0000, ripe101 wrote:
> >    I just got my monomachine running thanks to Flo's help!
> 
> excellent! Zombie to the rescue! :-)
> 
> what ended up working, by the way?
> 
> 
> any tips on using that so far? I messed with it briefly and 
couldn't get
> much to happen.
>

On Mon Sep 22 2003, ripe101 <ripe+list7147@...> wrote:

> Yeah, it is big!  Definitely not very lap-friendly like machinedrum.

True. Damn it!

> So far I have been mainly using the superwave machine, but I will
> try and get into the formant tonight...

Done any nice wave sweeps? I tried using the LFOs, but did not get the
effect I was looking for.

> I still can't figure out how to trigger the arp from the sequencer,
> if it's even possible, or to record the arp to a sequencer track.

No help here from me, I would like to know the same thing.


So, this far. An evening with Monomachine. Quite a few
lock-ups+reboots, just a locked tone from the
synth. Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! Beta. :)

Got the vocal synth up and running. Changed the settings for the AHDR
envelope to something useful, max volume and max track level. Still
just faint sound somewhere in the background. Save the pattern and the
kit. Reboot. Now! The vocal sound was back with normal volume.

I recognize the feeling from using the MD from the beginning. Never
knowing if what you want to do is going to mess upp something, so you
save your kit quite often to fell more safe.

The sequencer works quite like I expected! Realtime recording from the
keyboard, plus step editing and parameter locks.

Back to the SFX-6!

/Janne

On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 10:42:04PM +0200, Janne G:son Berg wrote:
>    True. Damn it!

but it might be someday. I hope... note that you don't even need the
keyboard to enter notes on this machine. so they've already got a
useable interface for a module version :-)

but if the module were to lose the joystick, I don't know if I'd go with
it....that thing is great!

>    No help here from me, I would like to know the same thing.
>    So, this far. An evening with Monomachine. Quite a few
>    lock-ups+reboots, just a locked tone from the
>    synth. Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! Beta. :)

I had one weirdness that a reboot solved.  Don't recall what it was.
But I had quite a few "beeeeeeeeeep"s so far.  Mainly because when they
say that a 127 for the Release is hold, they MEAN it!

>    Got the vocal synth up and running. Changed the settings for the AHDR
>    envelope to something useful, max volume and max track level. Still
>    just faint sound somewhere in the background. Save the pattern and the
>    kit. Reboot. Now! The vocal sound was back with normal volume.

what were your usable VO settings?

>    The sequencer works quite like I expected! Realtime recording from the
>    keyboard, plus step editing and parameter locks.

yes, but no polyphonic sequencing :-(

Joe

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "ripe101" 
<ripe+list7147@m...> wrote:

> I still can't figure out how to trigger the arp from the 
> sequencer, if it's even possible, or to record the arp to
> a sequencer track.

That's not possible yet. That's on the todo list. We will add chord 
editing in the internal sequencer like in the MIDI sequencer, and 
that will trig the arpeggiator.

Daniel

On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:22:16PM -0000, daniel_elektron wrote:
>    That's not possible yet. That's on the todo list. We will add chord
>    editing in the internal sequencer like in the MIDI sequencer, and
>    that will trig the arpeggiator.

ahhh....so internal polyphonic sequencing will be possible in the future?

Joe

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:22:16PM -0000, daniel_elektron wrote:
> >    That's not possible yet. That's on the todo list. We will add 
chord
> >    editing in the internal sequencer like in the MIDI sequencer, 
and
> >    that will trig the arpeggiator.
> 
> ahhh....so internal polyphonic sequencing will be possible in the 
future?

No, the chords will be only for trigging the arpeggiator. After all, 
it's the Monomachine.

Daniel

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_elektron" 
<daniel@e...> wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:22:16PM -0000, daniel_elektron wrote:
> No, the chords will be only for trigging the arpeggiator. After 
all, 
> it's the Monomachine.
> 
> Daniel

Huh? What is the ensemble all about then?
To play 4-note chords according to the list of planned changes.
Or are you talking about external midi instead of internal sound 
source.


Ronald.

On Wed Sep 24 2003, daniel_elektron <daniel@...> wrote:

> No, the chords will be only for trigging the arpeggiator. After all, 
> it's the Monomachine.

No chords? Damn! I'm using the MD for chords stuff, and get irritated
over the fact that they eat three or more sounds. Doing that on the
MM... well. Three or less parts over for other sounds?

Arpeggios are nice, but not a substitute. 

/Janne

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Roonan" <info@r...> wrote:

> > No, the chords will be only for trigging the arpeggiator. After 
> all, 
> > it's the Monomachine.
> 
> Huh? What is the ensemble all about then?
> To play 4-note chords according to the list of planned changes.
> Or are you talking about external midi instead of internal sound 
> source.

The ensemble will make chords, but probably not be programmed using 
the chords-interface. That would mean some problems. For example, if 
you want to play both an ensemble chord and the arpeggiator - what 
would happen. So as far as we know now the chord in the internal 
sequencer will be for the internal arpeggiator only.

Daniel

On Wed Sep 24 2003, daniel_elektron <daniel@...> wrote:

> The ensemble will make chords, but probably not be programmed using 
> the chords-interface. That would mean some problems. For example, if 
> you want to play both an ensemble chord and the arpeggiator - what 
> would happen. So as far as we know now the chord in the internal 
> sequencer will be for the internal arpeggiator only.

Phew! Some kind of chords. Whatever an ensamble means in this context. :)

/Janne

hi,

> No, the chords will be only for trigging the arpeggiator. After 
all, 
> it's the Monomachine.

one thing i'm a bit confused by.. i remember "24-voice polyphony" 
being mentioned... how exactly does this work? 6 machines, each with 
4 voices? or 24 mono-machines?!?!

raigan

On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 07:42:38PM -0000, raiganburns wrote:
>    one thing i'm a bit confused by.. i remember "24-voice polyphony"
>    being mentioned... how exactly does this work? 6 machines, each with
>    4 voices? or 24 mono-machines?!?!
>    raigan

this confused me too. and I mentioned it in here the day before my MM
arrived. I'm still a bit confused by it. but it seems like some of the
machines have 2 sub-oscillators. so I think they mean that you can
possibly have 24 oscillators going? Daniel?

Joe

Hey everyone!
Well, I recorded some stuff pretty quickly using my new toy.  It's
nothing fantastic, just me exploring this thing. There's not much done
in the way of arrangement, so the parts can get annoying after a bit.

anyway, enough excuses!  here they are:
http://www.cs.kent.edu/~jmelnyk/songs/mm000001.mp3 (drums from MD)
http://www.cs.kent.edu/~jmelnyk/songs/mm000010.mp3 (all MM)

Enjoy!
Joe

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "raiganburns" 
<raiganburns@y...> wrote:

> one thing i'm a bit confused by.. i remember "24-voice polyphony" 
> being mentioned... how exactly does this work? 6 machines, each 
> with 4 voices?

Yes, exactly. This will come with the Ensemble machine.

Daniel

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_elektron" 
<daniel@e...> wrote:
> you want to play both an ensemble chord and the arpeggiator - what 
> would happen. So as far as we know now the chord in the internal 
> sequencer will be for the internal arpeggiator only.

Isn't it logical to play chords on sound with Arp off and play chords 
to Arp when it's switched on?
Just thinking loud :-)

Ronald.

You are SUCH a lucky bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations, you are with Monomachine!

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