Elektron Musical Instruments

>
>yes, i know, it's a drummachine, not a groovebox... but what for example
>speaks against that the 16 step keys could be misused for entering pitch
>data via a special key combination...?
>

You could try something a friend turned me on to, which I had never thought of for some
reason: I was used to using one midimachine per synth I was sequencing: while we were both
punching up patterns, he configured his md with multiple midimachines, all transmitting on
the same channel, and then set separate notes for each.  This way you can enter real-time
record and play eight or more notes into the sequence, just like a piano.  Not sure if
this is what you were getting at, but it's certainly a powerful method that I had
overlooked.  (cheers David)

To gab: yeah, the midimachines are powerful, especially the ability to send out LFOs to
modulate any midi CC values, and the ability to set those values for each individual step.

jvs

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Vernon Starnes" 
<starnes@i...> wrote:
> >
> >yes, i know, it's a drummachine, not a groovebox... but what for 
example
> >speaks against that the 16 step keys could be misused for 
entering pitch
> >data via a special key combination...?
> >
> 
> You could try something a friend turned me on to, which I had 
never thought of for some
> reason: I was used to using one midimachine per synth I was 
sequencing: while we were both
> punching up patterns, he configured his md with multiple 
midimachines, all transmitting on
> the same channel, and then set separate notes for each.  This way 
you can enter real-time
> record and play eight or more notes into the sequence, just like a 
piano.  Not sure if
> this is what you were getting at, but it's certainly a powerful 
method that I had
> overlooked.  (cheers David)
> 
> To gab: yeah, the midimachines are powerful, especially the 
ability to send out LFOs to
> modulate any midi CC values, and the ability to set those values 
for each individual step.
> 
> jvs

hmm...sounds very powerful! , do these LFO rates have to be synced 
to MIDI clk? also, on the actual process of inputing notes , im 
guessing you enter a 'note on' event by pressing one or more of the 
16 step buttons then adjust their pitch, gate time & velocity etc. 
for each step individually via the knobs...is this correct? if so, 
is there a way to record in real time these same parameters, for all 
selected steps - as the pattern loops? (instead of adjusting them 
individually per step) is this clear??!! either way i think this md 
is the only option for a decent hardware sequencer with real time 
editing and amazing sounds..........  thanks for the replies!!!!!!!!!

> is the only option for a "VERY GOOD" hardware
sequencer
> with real time 
> editing and amazing sounds..........  thanks for the
> replies!!!!!!!!!

Just get it and start living the LIFE!!!!!!
> 
> 


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On 12/10/02 11:21 PM, "analogback <gehayman@...>"
<gehayman@...> wrote:

> hmm...sounds very powerful! , do these LFO rates have to be synced
> to MIDI clk? also, on the actual process of inputing notes , im
> guessing you enter a 'note on' event by pressing one or more of the
> 16 step buttons then adjust their pitch, gate time & velocity etc.
> for each step individually via the knobs...is this correct? if so,
> is there a way to record in real time these same parameters, for all
> selected steps - as the pattern loops? (instead of adjusting them
> individually per step) is this clear??!! either way i think this md
> is the only option for a decent hardware sequencer with real time
> editing and amazing sounds..........  thanks for the replies!!!!!!!!!

LFOs are always synchronized to tempo.  The rates are in multiples of
1/128th note.  Notes are entered using the track trigger buttons.  Notes
play at a default pitch, velocity, gate-time as set by the overall
MidiMachines parameter settings.  If you are using parameter locks you can
adjust the pitch on a step-by-step basis, as well as the gate-time.

You have the input method correctly figured.  Real-time recording is
restricted to adjusting the MD's panel controls while recording.  You can
not for example use an external midi controller, unless you use the trick
previously discussed.

If your looking for a step sequencer capable of driving external MIDI synths
and samplers then the MD is one of the few choices that has it right with
regard to tweaking while the sequence is playing.  If you have been
frustrated by the way the MC-series grooveboxes do this, or worse the RM1x,
or even the Emu XX-7 family you will find the MD a breath of fresh air.
Only more esoteric (and expensive) things can work as intuitively and
interactively.


drk

www.delora.com/music
www.mp3.com/zdrk
drk.iuma.com

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, drK <drk@d...> wrote:
> On 12/10/02 11:21 PM, "analogback <gehayman@h...>"
> <gehayman@h...> wrote:
> 
> > hmm...sounds very powerful! , do these LFO rates have to be 
synced
> > to MIDI clk? also, on the actual process of inputing notes , im
> > guessing you enter a 'note on' event by pressing one or more of 
the
> > 16 step buttons then adjust their pitch, gate time & velocity 
etc.
> > for each step individually via the knobs...is this correct? if 
so,
> > is there a way to record in real time these same parameters, for 
all
> > selected steps - as the pattern loops? (instead of adjusting them
> > individually per step) is this clear??!! either way i think this 
md
> > is the only option for a decent hardware sequencer with real time
> > editing and amazing sounds..........  thanks for the 
replies!!!!!!!!!
> 
> LFOs are always synchronized to tempo.  The rates are in multiples 
of
> 1/128th note.  Notes are entered using the track trigger buttons.  
Notes
> play at a default pitch, velocity, gate-time as set by the overall
> MidiMachines parameter settings.  If you are using parameter locks 
you can
> adjust the pitch on a step-by-step basis, as well as the gate-time.
> 
> You have the input method correctly figured.  Real-time recording 
is
> restricted to adjusting the MD's panel controls while recording.  
You can
> not for example use an external midi controller, unless you use 
the trick
> previously discussed.
> 
> If your looking for a step sequencer capable of driving external 
MIDI synths
> and samplers then the MD is one of the few choices that has it 
right with
> regard to tweaking while the sequence is playing.  If you have been
> frustrated by the way the MC-series grooveboxes do this, or worse 
the RM1x,
> or even the Emu XX-7 family you will find the MD a breath of fresh 
air.
> Only more esoteric (and expensive) things can work as intuitively 
and
> interactively.
> 
> 
> drk
> 
> www.delora.com/music
> www.mp3.com/zdrk
> drk.iuma.com

great ! that clears things up a bit. i have indeed been frustrated 
by other hardware sequencers.. firstly the mc505 which was a great 
learning tool but fell short in many areas ie. only 8 tracks etc. 
then rm1x which is a very powerful sequencer but the sounds are 
largely unusable (in my opinion!) and limitations with grid rec ie. 
unable to hear all tracks at once and the start/stop turd. thanks 
again drk........ im going to order the MD today!!

> great ! that clears things up a bit. i have indeed been frustrated 
> by other hardware sequencers.. firstly the mc505 which was a great 
> learning tool but fell short in many areas ie. only 8 tracks etc. 
> then rm1x which is a very powerful sequencer but the sounds are 
> largely unusable (in my opinion!) and limitations with grid rec ie. 
> unable to hear all tracks at once and the start/stop turd. thanks 
> again drk........ im going to order the MD today!!

Good job.  You just might sleep better... When you do sleep while you
have this thing.  I felt much better after ordering mine.