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MD - Quick Question about Onboard Sequencer

2005-05-28 by les_chupacabra

Is it possible to have a pattern with say 4 tracks - 1 of 16 steps, 1
of 8, one of 4, and one of 3?  Or do all tracks have to be the same
number of steps?

I used to have a Quasimidi 309 (I refuse to call it a rave-o-lution)
and its sequencer worked that way which allowed for some nice evolving
permutations.

Thanks!

John

Re: [elektron] MD - Quick Question about Onboard Sequencer

2005-05-28 by niall munnelly

On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 01:53:37PM -0000, les_chupacabra wrote:
> Is it possible to have a pattern with say 4 tracks - 1 of 16 steps, 1
> of 8, one of 4, and one of 3?  Or do all tracks have to be the same
> number of steps?

teh question every quasimidi user asks =)

nope.  sequence length is global, sorry.

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Re: [elektron] MD - Quick Question about Onboard Sequencer

2005-05-28 by Tom McIvor

I really hope there is plans to include this feature on future OS 
updates. Also the ability to change the direction a track plays would 
be nice.

Of course you can get round this by using two or more machinedrums. But 
thats gonna get really pricey if you want anymore than 3 different 
sequence lengths running at the same time.

T.


On 28 May 2005, at 14:59, niall munnelly wrote:

> On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 01:53:37PM -0000, les_chupacabra wrote:
>  > Is it possible to have a pattern with say 4 tracks - 1 of 16 steps, 
> 1
>  > of 8, one of 4, and one of 3?� Or do all tracks have to be the same
>  > number of steps?
>
>  teh question every quasimidi user asks =)
>
>  nope.� sequence length is global, sorry.
>
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Re: [elektron] MD - Quick Question about Onboard Sequencer

2005-05-28 by les_chupacabra

Yes - Progress from 1st step to last and then back down to first
(instead of advancing directly from last step back to first), reverse,
random - those sort of things make for some happy accidents.

Thanks for the answer Tom.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Tom McIvor <tm29@s...> wrote:
> I really hope there is plans to include this feature on future OS 
> updates. Also the ability to change the direction a track plays would 
> be nice.
> 
> Of course you can get round this by using two or more machinedrums. But 
> thats gonna get really pricey if you want anymore than 3 different 
> sequence lengths running at the same time.
> 
> T.
> 
> 
> On 28 May 2005, at 14:59, niall munnelly wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 01:53:37PM -0000, les_chupacabra wrote:
> >  > Is it possible to have a pattern with say 4 tracks - 1 of 16
steps, 
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> > 1
> >  > of 8, one of 4, and one of 3?  Or do all tracks have to be the same
> >  > number of steps?
> >
> >  teh question every quasimidi user asks =)
> >
> >  nope.  sequence length is global, sorry.
> >
> >  --
> >  yours,
> >  niall.
> >  .. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             
> > .                 .
> >  aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around 
> > silence.
> > http://syncretism.net
> >  .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..
> >
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> Thomas McIvor
> School of Physics and Astronomy
> University of St. Andrews
> North Haugh
> St. Andrews
> Fife
> KY16 9SS
> U.K.
> Tele: (+44 1334) 462823
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [elektron] MD - Quick Question about Onboard Sequencer

2005-05-28 by niall munnelly

On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 03:07:33PM +0100, Tom McIvor wrote:

> Of course you can get round this by using two or more machinedrums. But 
> thats gonna get really pricey if you want anymore than 3 different 
> sequence lengths running at the same time.

cheaper {and better} still would be a polymorph or e-mu command station
in tandem.

-- 
yours,
niall.
.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .                 .
aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

Re: [elektron] MD - Quick Question about Onboard Sequencer

2005-05-28 by les_chupacabra

I'm just starting to play around w/ Pure Data (essentially open source
MAX/MSP) so I may try to whip something up there after I get my head
around it.

Got rid of all my synths & drum machines a while back and got back
into guitar and now I find myself w/ a renewed interest in drum machines.

Never played w/ a polymorph but do remember reading some interesting
things about its sequencing capabilities - I'll look into it, thanks.

I know nothing about the Command Stations other than what they look
like - any special sequencer features?

Thanks!

John

PS - FWIW, used to have a SIDStation (but that went out the door
during my search for the holy grail of amplifiers as well).

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, niall munnelly <aleph@a...> wrote:
> On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 03:07:33PM +0100, Tom McIvor wrote:
> 
> > Of course you can get round this by using two or more
machinedrums. But 
> > thats gonna get really pricey if you want anymore than 3 different 
> > sequence lengths running at the same time.
> 
> cheaper {and better} still would be a polymorph or e-mu command station
> in tandem.
> 
> -- 
> yours,
> niall.
> .. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .           
     .
> aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around
silence.
> http://syncretism.net
> .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

Re: [elektron] MD - Quick Question about Onboard Sequencer

2005-05-28 by damon

Ideally we could set a loop step on a track... function+bank+step or 
something.
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On May 28, 2005, at 6:59 AM, niall munnelly wrote:

> On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 01:53:37PM -0000, les_chupacabra wrote:
>> Is it possible to have a pattern with say 4 tracks - 1 of 16 steps, 1
>> of 8, one of 4, and one of 3?  Or do all tracks have to be the same
>> number of steps?
>
> teh question every quasimidi user asks =)
>
> nope.  sequence length is global, sorry.
>
> -- 
> yours,
> niall.
> .. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .               
>   .
> aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around 
> silence.
> http://syncretism.net
> .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: MD - Quick Question about Onboard Sequencer

2005-05-29 by Roonan

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "les_chupacabra"
<john.potter@r...> wrote:
> Is it possible to have a pattern with say 4 tracks - 1 of 16 steps, 1
> of 8, one of 4, and one of 3?  Or do all tracks have to be the same
> number of steps?

It's not possible now and I think it won't be possible in the future.
It's because of the structure of the OS. Many people asked for this
but it would take a complete rewrite of the OS. (please correct me if
I'm wrong)

What you can do instead is hook on a laptop/pc with ableton live. You
can sample loops, move them in time, change pattern lenghts and add
effects all on the fly! It's an ideal companion for your groove gear.

Ronald.

Re: [elektron] Re: MD - Quick Question about Onboard Sequencer

2005-05-29 by niall munnelly

On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:44:06AM -0000, Roonan wrote:
> 
> It's not possible now and I think it won't be possible in the future.
> It's because of the structure of the OS. Many people asked for this
> but it would take a complete rewrite of the OS. (please correct me if
> I'm wrong)

that 's what elektron support told me when i made a related
request.

-- 
yours,
niall.
.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .                 .
aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

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