Elektron Musical Instruments

I put together some questions in the files section.  I didn't write
the answers because I'm not sure if they are good questions!  Also
some of the answers I'm not so sure about.  Many questions were from
the ms2000 group and I just changed the ms to MD.  If you think there
should be changes or additions then do it.

On Dec 4, 2004, at 3:41 AM, endlessnessisticman wrote:

>  I put together some questions in the files section.  I didn't write
>  the answers because I'm not sure if they are good questions!  Also
>  some of the answers I'm not so sure about.  Many questions were from
>  the ms2000 group and I just changed the ms to MD.  If you think there
>  should be changes or additions then do it.

good work!  this is a great start.  I put together some questions 
earlier this week
and then answered them as well (it took forever!).  I'll add these 
questions to
that list and then post it so that people can comment on the questions 
and
answers.

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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> good work!  this is a great start.  I put together some questions 
> earlier this week
> and then answered them as well (it took forever!).  I'll add these 
> questions to
> that list and then post it so that people can comment on the questions 
> and
> answers.

OK.  I've uploaded this, including answers to most of the FAQ's you proposed.  there's a 
couple I left out or felt were answered elsewhere.  and one or two more that I need to add.

anyway, everyone should feel free to comment on whether they think more questions 
should be answered or whether these answers are good, etc.  there will be a similar list for 
the Monomachine up soon.

I just read the MD FAQ (take 2). It's wonderfully written! Excellent
work :)

Andrew


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...>
wrote:
> > good work!  this is a great start.  I put together some questions 
> > earlier this week
> > and then answered them as well (it took forever!).  I'll add these 
> > questions to
> > that list and then post it so that people can comment on the
questions 
> > and
> > answers.
> 
> OK.  I've uploaded this, including answers to most of the FAQ's you
proposed.  there's a 
> couple I left out or felt were answered elsewhere.  and one or two
more that I need to add.
> 
> anyway, everyone should feel free to comment on whether they think
more questions 
> should be answered or whether these answers are good, etc.  there
will be a similar list for 
> the Monomachine up soon.

On Dec 4, 2004, at 11:53 AM, sidstationownsyou wrote:

> I just read the MD FAQ (take 2). It's wonderfully written! Excellent
>  work :)
>
>  Andrew

thanks Andrew!  you're the one developing the MD Machine Lab right?
is the description of your work accurate?  is there anything you'd like 
me
to add?  any links or anything like that?


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yup; that's me. There are WAY too many features in MD Machine Lab to
list in the FAQ... besides, I want to surprise you guys ;)

I'll have a site where you'll be able to download MD Machine Lab once
I release it, so you can add that URL to the FAQ once it's up. I'm
going to try to release the program before 2005 (but no promises).

btw, I found an extremely minor typo in the FAQ:
In answer 3, the text "...assuming you already have on
of those..." should read "one", not "on" ;)


Andrew



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:

> On Dec 4, 2004, at 11:53 AM, sidstationownsyou wrote:
> 
> > I just read the MD FAQ (take 2). It's wonderfully written! Excellent
> >  work :)
> >
> >  Andrew
> 
> thanks Andrew!  you're the one developing the MD Machine Lab right?
> is the description of your work accurate?  is there anything you'd like 
> me
> to add?  any links or anything like that?
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Dec 4, 2004, at 12:37 PM, sidstationownsyou wrote:

>  yup; that's me. There are WAY too many features in MD Machine Lab to
>  list in the FAQ... besides, I want to surprise you guys ;)

cool.

> I'll have a site where you'll be able to download MD Machine Lab once
>  I release it, so you can add that URL to the FAQ once it's up. I'm
>  going to try to release the program before 2005 (but no promises).

cool.  keep us informed for certain.

> btw, I found an extremely minor typo in the FAQ:
>  In answer 3, the text "...assuming you already have on
>  of those..." should read "one", not "on" ;)

damn!  well, one (or "on") typo's not bad for editing it in Vim (i.e. a 
text
editor with no spell checker)!

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nice! I use Vim too :)
One of my profs keeps trying to get me to switch to emacs though...

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:

> On Dec 4, 2004, at 12:37 PM, sidstationownsyou wrote:
> 
> >  yup; that's me. There are WAY too many features in MD Machine Lab to
> >  list in the FAQ... besides, I want to surprise you guys ;)
> 
> cool.
> 
> > I'll have a site where you'll be able to download MD Machine Lab once
> >  I release it, so you can add that URL to the FAQ once it's up. I'm
> >  going to try to release the program before 2005 (but no promises).
> 
> cool.  keep us informed for certain.
> 
> > btw, I found an extremely minor typo in the FAQ:
> >  In answer 3, the text "...assuming you already have on
> >  of those..." should read "one", not "on" ;)
> 
> damn!  well, one (or "on") typo's not bad for editing it in Vim (i.e. a 
> text
> editor with no spell checker)!
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

i know it's offtopic, but:

http://www.stripey.com/vim/spelling.html

<duck/>

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Hi,

Just wanted to introduce myself to the group.  After about a year of 
lusting, I just took delivery of a MM SFX-60!   Needless to say, I did 
not get much sleep last night.  What a truly inspirational machine this 
is!

Here's my first question..

I'm sending beat clock from Pro Tools to sync the MM up.  Which is 
working fine.  However, when I press Stop in Pro Tools, MM stops but a 
few seconds later it switches back to internal clock and begins playing 
the current pattern again.  I have to then press stop on MM.   Why is 
it doing this?

thanxs!
-Mark

On Dec 4, 2004, at 1:33 PM, sidstationownsyou wrote:

>  nice! I use Vim too :)
>  One of my profs keeps trying to get me to switch to emacs though...

emacs.... boooo!!!! :-)

I have to use Visual Studio at my new job.  life sucks :-(


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It might be useful to distinguish Andrew by email address, to identify him  
among the other Andrews in the elektron community, and in case someone  
wants to contact him. Same goes for any person mentioned in group  
documentation (Joe). This is a good start, we've needed a FAQ for ages.
-Andrew

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 17:37:50 -0000, sidstationownsyou  
<sidstationownsyou@...> wrote:

>
> yup; that's me. There are WAY too many features in MD Machine Lab to
> list in the FAQ... besides, I want to surprise you guys ;)
>
> I'll have a site where you'll be able to download MD Machine Lab once
> I release it, so you can add that URL to the FAQ once it's up. I'm
> going to try to release the program before 2005 (but no promises).
>
> btw, I found an extremely minor typo in the FAQ:
> In answer 3, the text "...assuming you already have on
> of those..." should read "one", not "on" ;)
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...>  
> wrote:
>> On Dec 4, 2004, at 11:53 AM, sidstationownsyou wrote:
>>
>> > I just read the MD FAQ (take 2). It's wonderfully written! Excellent
>> > work :)
>> >
>> > Andrew
>>
>> thanks Andrew! you're the one developing the MD Machine Lab right?
>> is the description of your work accurate? is there anything you'd like
>> me
>> to add? any links or anything like that?
>>
>>
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On Dec 4, 2004, at 8:09 PM, Andrew Denyes wrote:

> It might be useful to distinguish Andrew by email address, to identify 
> him
> among the other Andrews in the elektron community, and in case someone
> wants to contact him. Same goes for any person mentioned in group
> documentation (Joe). This is a good start, we've needed a FAQ for ages.

well, I didn't want to impose on anyone's privacy by publishing their
email address (or my own) for spambots to find.

yes, we've needed a FAQ for ages and I was actually supposed to
do one ages ago but never got around to it.  that's why I'm trying to 
work
pretty hard at this one :-)

hello,

> I'm sending beat clock from Pro Tools to sync the MM up.  Which is 
> working fine.  However, when I press Stop in Pro Tools, MM stops but a 
> few seconds later it switches back to internal clock and begins playing 
> the current pattern again.  I have to then press stop on MM.   Why is 
> it doing this?


i have exactly the same thing with cubase and have no idea how to get
rid of the problem...

t

The MD does exactly the same. 
I thought the problem had already been solved...(I rarely use MD as a 
slave connected to software,; that's why I just recently found out 
the problem still exists today). I'm using os 2.0 by the way.

Teun

Thank you to everyone for getting the FAQs together.  I've been hard at 
work on the new site, and am aiming at a Jan 1 release date.  The new 
site features discussion forums, uploads/downloads, news, FAQs, and 
other interesting items.

/Scott

> yes, we've needed a FAQ for ages and I was actually supposed to
> do one ages ago but never got around to it.  that's why I'm trying to 
> work
> pretty hard at this one :-)
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That's a bug with the OS... upgrade it and you'll be fine.

Enjoy,
-Chris

* Mark Camp (astronout@...) wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just wanted to introduce myself to the group.  After about a year of 
> lusting, I just took delivery of a MM SFX-60!   Needless to say, I did 
> not get much sleep last night.  What a truly inspirational machine this 
> is!
> 
> Here's my first question..
> 
> I'm sending beat clock from Pro Tools to sync the MM up.  Which is 
> working fine.  However, when I press Stop in Pro Tools, MM stops but a 
> few seconds later it switches back to internal clock and begins playing 
> the current pattern again.  I have to then press stop on MM.   Why is 
> it doing this?
> 
> thanxs!
> -Mark

I've upgraded to the current 1.05  OS.  Still have the same problem.

-M
On Dec 6, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Chris Thomas wrote:

> That's a bug with the OS... upgrade it and you'll be fine.
>
>  Enjoy,
>  -Chris
>
>  * Mark Camp (astronout@...) wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Just wanted to introduce myself to the group.� After about a year of
>  > lusting, I just took delivery of a MM SFX-60!�� Needless to say, I 
> did
>  > not get much sleep last night.� What a truly inspirational machine 
> this
>  > is!
>  >
>  > Here's my first question..
>  >
>  > I'm sending beat clock from Pro Tools to sync the MM up.� Which is
>  > working fine.� However, when I press Stop in Pro Tools, MM stops 
> but a
>  > few seconds later it switches back to internal clock and begins 
> playing
>  > the current pattern again.� I have to then press stop on MM.�� Why 
> is
>  > it doing this?
>  >
>  > thanxs!
>  > -Mark
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Is anyone having problems with grid record?  I've programmed some 
BeatBox stuff, and every few (unpredictable) times through the pattern, 
the MnM plays the wrong notes.  This only happens with patterns created 
under 1.05.  The patterns I made using 1.04 do not exhibit this behavior.

Ideas?  Last I checked, I wasn't smoking crack ;)

/Scott

Mark Camp wrote:

> I've upgraded to the current 1.05  OS.  Still have the same problem.
> 
> -M
> On Dec 6, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Chris Thomas wrote:
> 
> 
>>That's a bug with the OS... upgrade it and you'll be fine.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> -Chris
>>
>> * Mark Camp (astronout@...) wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Just wanted to introduce myself to the group.  After about a year of
>> > lusting, I just took delivery of a MM SFX-60!   Needless to say, I 
>>did
>> > not get much sleep last night.  What a truly inspirational machine 
>>this
>> > is!
>> >
>> > Here's my first question..
>> >
>> > I'm sending beat clock from Pro Tools to sync the MM up.  Which is
>> > working fine.  However, when I press Stop in Pro Tools, MM stops 
>>but a
>> > few seconds later it switches back to internal clock and begins 
>>playing
>> > the current pattern again.  I have to then press stop on MM.   Why 
>>is
>> > it doing this?
>> >
>> > thanxs!
>> > -Mark
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With the help of a MD user, We have solved this problem.

In Global Settings/Control/Control In, the transport was set to 
'Ignore'.  Setting the transport to 'Accept' has solved the problem

yay!

-M

On Dec 6, 2004, at 10:14 AM, Mark Camp wrote:

>
> I've upgraded to the current 1.05  OS.  Still have the same problem.
>
> -M
> On Dec 6, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Chris Thomas wrote:
>
>> That's a bug with the OS... upgrade it and you'll be fine.
>>
>>  Enjoy,
>>  -Chris
>>
>>  * Mark Camp (astronout@...) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just wanted to introduce myself to the group.  After about a year of
>>> lusting, I just took delivery of a MM SFX-60!   Needless to say, I
>> did
>>> not get much sleep last night.  What a truly inspirational machine
>> this
>>> is!
>>>
>>> Here's my first question..
>>>
>>> I'm sending beat clock from Pro Tools to sync the MM up.  Which is
>>> working fine.  However, when I press Stop in Pro Tools, MM stops
>> but a
>>> few seconds later it switches back to internal clock and begins
>> playing
>>> the current pattern again.  I have to then press stop on MM.   Why
>> is
>>> it doing this?
>>>
>>> thanxs!
>>> -Mark
>>
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> 
wrote:
> Is anyone having problems with grid record?  I've programmed some 
> BeatBox stuff, and every few (unpredictable) times through the 
pattern, 
> the MnM plays the wrong notes.  

Same here...I got my MM only a few days ago, so I couldn't figure out 
what's causing this. Very strange indeed. If OS 4 doesn't have the 
problem I would consider downgrading. Only problem is: can I still 
get OS 4.0?

Wow!

You guys have done a marvellous job putting the FAQ together. I'm 
starting to believe that this new forum thing will be good, since 
people are willing to put some effort to it. 

I think we have to change question 19:

"19) Why do I hear noise coming out of the Machinedrum outputs?

- This could occur for various reasons.  The most likely one is that
you have the Machinedrum output set very high and running into
something not setup to accept it's +4dB output level (see question
number 17).  It may work to simply turn the level down through the
main output control or through a mixer if you're using the individual
outputs.  If you're still having problems, you may wish to contact
Elektron support regarding the noise level of your particular 
Machinedrum.

That said, many people have complained that perfectly functional
Machinedrums still have a small noise level at their main output.
The reason for this is unknown at this time."

I think this last chapter is out of place. If MD would suffer from 
this kind of problem, it would have been noticed in Elektron first. 
This last chapter points that MDs has some techical failures. If 
people have problems with it, it's due the wrong gain-staging or/and 
some other electrical problems in their house. MD is really quiet, 
and I haven't had any problems even with severe limiting the signal 
(the noise floor doesn't jump out).

Toni.

On Dec 7, 2004, at 6:06 AM, tahvenaine2002 wrote:

>  I think this last chapter is out of place. If MD would suffer from
>  this kind of problem, it would have been noticed in Elektron first.
>  This last chapter points that MDs has some techical failures. If
>  people have problems with it, it's due the wrong gain-staging or/and
>  some other electrical problems in their house. MD is really quiet,
>  and I haven't had any problems even with severe limiting the signal
>  (the noise floor doesn't jump out).

hmm.... electrical issues might actually be the problem.  I never even 
thought of
that.  :-)

so you're suggesting that we dump this last paragraph, then?  that's 
fine
by me.  I mainly included it because a lot of people get all up in arms 
when we
have the MD noise discussion, stating that they still have noise in 
their
MD and always have even though they use pro gear, etc.  so I didn't 
want to
dismiss that it seems like there is an unsolved problem here.  but it 
may
be unfair to fault the MD, I'm not sure.

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Try reloading OS 1.05.  That (seems to) have fixed the problem for me.  
I won't know until I do more testing.

/Scott

teundereeper wrote:

>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> 
>wrote:
>  
>
>>Is anyone having problems with grid record?  I've programmed some 
>>BeatBox stuff, and every few (unpredictable) times through the 
>>    
>>
>pattern, 
>  
>
>>the MnM plays the wrong notes.  
>>    
>>
>
>Same here...I got my MM only a few days ago, so I couldn't figure out 
>what's causing this. Very strange indeed. If OS 4 doesn't have the 
>problem I would consider downgrading. Only problem is: can I still 
>get OS 4.0? 
>
>
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I guess there should be some kind step by step guide to fixing it. 
But then again some people put it directly into a sound card and I
have no idea how that might work.  Having it go into a mixer is quite
easy.  

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:

> On Dec 7, 2004, at 6:06 AM, tahvenaine2002 wrote:
> 
> >  I think this last chapter is out of place. If MD would suffer from
> >  this kind of problem, it would have been noticed in Elektron first.
> >  This last chapter points that MDs has some techical failures. If
> >  people have problems with it, it's due the wrong gain-staging or/and
> >  some other electrical problems in their house. MD is really quiet,
> >  and I haven't had any problems even with severe limiting the signal
> >  (the noise floor doesn't jump out).
> 
> hmm.... electrical issues might actually be the problem.  I never even 
> thought of
> that.  :-)
> 
> so you're suggesting that we dump this last paragraph, then?  that's 
> fine
> by me.  I mainly included it because a lot of people get all up in arms 
> when we
> have the MD noise discussion, stating that they still have noise in 
> their
> MD and always have even though they use pro gear, etc.  so I didn't 
> want to
> dismiss that it seems like there is an unsolved problem here.  but it 
> may
> be unfair to fault the MD, I'm not sure.
> 
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