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[elektron] Re: MonoMachine versus other sequencers

2004-04-08 by droolmaster0

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Gert van Santen" 
<g.vansanten@c...> wrote:
> droolmaster0 wrote:
> >
> > Well, not necessarily. He also builds them, and I am planning to 
buy
> > a completed one from him later this month.
> 
> Aha! That might change things...
> 

Well, I will definitely report back here after I try it out (Colin, 
who makes them, said that he could probably have mine made by months 
end, but he's on vacation right now). I'm sure that the fact that the 
Monomachine's sequencer is so well integrated into the synth will 
have its advantages, but the p3 has so many cool features that I have 
craved (and more that I hadn't even thought about), that I'm sure it 
will derange the fun considerably. Using both sequencers together 
ought to be even more fun.

> >>
> > I wish they had specs in English for it, or even a price. The p3 
has
> > some incredible modulation capabilities. It's worth looking at the
> > manual...towards the back. The interface isn't as nice as the 
Zeit,
> > though. On the other hand, it's something like $1500 cheaper, if I
> > remember the price of the Zeit correctly.
> 
> I thought Zeit and Schrittmacher were about the same price - 
something like
> 1500-1600 Euros...

They list 1299 British Pounds for the Zeit, which comes in at a 
little below $2400 right now. The P3 (also dependent on the exchange 
rate) at last calculation was about $800.
> 
> Actually the thing that makes me look at the other sequencers (be it
> Schrittmacher, Zeit, P3, or anything), is the fact that I will be 
able to
> use (endless) rotary knobs. It's a very flexible way of 
adding /changing
> note and controller data.
> 
> I do have 2 Electribes with the excellent X0X step sequencer 
system, and I
> also own a MachineDrum with the same type of sequencer. As far as I 
can see
> it now, a MnM would be exactly the same system, so I would 
basically only
> get some new synth engines in a cool box... Or would I?
> 

If you have a Machinedrum, you have a very good idea of the sequencer 
on the MnM. The one on the MnM is enhanced, but essentially based on 
the same model. I'm at work, and kind of busy, so I can't think of 
some quick differences between the two. Someone like Joe can probably 
reel them off. I've only tried the ER1 of the Electribes, and I 
didn't think that its sequencer was nearly as flexible as the 
Elektron sequencers.


> Could you explain if (and how) the sequencing on the MnM is 
different from
> the Electribe way of adding notes (playing the little keyboard or 
changing
> existing data with the wheel)?

Can't remember exactly how the Electribe worked, but essentially, 
with the MnM, you can enter data in real time using the pads as a 
keyboard, or you can step edit them. Don't most hardware sequencers 
limit you to these basic methods? You can also record parameter 
locks, as in the Machinedrum, by turning the knobs in real time, and 
you can record in notes from an external keyboard.

> 
> thanx.
> 
> Gert
> www.waveworld.tv

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