Elektron Musical Instruments

duh! Cheers, these are the mistakes you only make once!
On 2 May 2007, at 13:02, verstaerker wrote:

> the settings must be saved with the kit!
>
> > Bankrupted myself buying an M.D last week and have to say I'm
> > impressed with the soundto say the least.
> > After making some patterns etc I've tried to put together a 'song'
> > I set up all the reverb, lfo, delay settings on the patterns.
> > After saving the song and returning to it, all my effect settings
> > etc. seem to reset?
> > I'm sure there's a simple explanation?!
>
> > cheers and hello!
>
> > Luke
> > On 2 May 2007, at 10:41, innerclock2004 wrote:
>
> >> Thanks for the response Daniel - it's a very tough issue and you  
> have
> >> made your point clear enough although I disagree on a number of
> >> fundamental points though all the same and because I initiated the
> >> timing thread I felt it only fair that I respond after so much
> >> healthy and, at times, heated debate.
> >>
> >> I don't think there is any 'magic' beat box feel - vintage or
> >> contemporary. What gives any rhythmic pattern 'feel' is how we
> >> anticipate where sounds fall in time and because every individual
> >> hears subjectively it makes practical analysis and criticism of
> >> timing performance in sequencers very difficult. This I well
> >> understand.
> >>
> >> What I do feel strongly is that adding any random element to
> >> step/event placement in any sequencing device does not create feel.
> >> All it serves to do is blur the edges of the groove.
> >>
> >> The exact opposite applies when deliberate Push/Pull placement of
> >> steps/events against a strict quantised tempo grid is used to
> >> customise feel - pushed hats, late snares and of course shuffle/ 
> swing.
> >>
> >> You use rigidity as a way of describing the interest many musicians
> >> have in tighter event timing and suggest using computers for such
> >> tasks. The term rigidity has negative connotations for most  
> musicians
> >> but I must stress again that a desire for precision and consistency
> >> in sequencing is not about rigidity or stiffness at all. Quite the
> >> reverse in fact.
> >>
> >> Feel is all about rhythmic anticipation � and that very human
> >> anticipation demands that if a snare is deliberately placed 5 ticks
> >> late it must always sound 5 ticks late to faithfully maintain the
> >> groove. The potential feel in any rhythm becomes less focused when
> >> the snares fall 3 ticks late sometimes and 7 ticks late other times
> >> in a pattern or loop when the timing variation is of a random  
> nature.
> >>
> >> This is not human feel. It is not feel in any sense because the
> >> timing variation is random � this is simply software and  
> hardware not
> >> keeping time.
> >>
> >> Remember that my initial tests were not analytical to begin with  
> � I
> >> could hear things shifting around which made me look closer.  
> This was
> >> something I could hear.
> >>
> >> If you had implemented a secret 'groove template' in the SPS-1 I
> >> could appreciate that to a point although I would have liked an
> >> option to switch it off. What leaves me unconvinced is the random
> >> nature of the push/pull. If it was a deliberate process to add
> >> a 'feel template' - wouldn't the step push/pull variation be
> >> consistent across a complete pattern?
> >>
> >> I guess I am a little disappointed as I love what the MD can do and
> >> had hoped the timing could be straightened out a little.
> >>
> >> At the end of the day � it's a very beautiful machine and makes
> >> beautiful music. That was never in any doubt. I just asked the
> >> question to see if it could be tightened up a little.
> >>
> >> Regards and deep respect as always,
> >>
> >> David.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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