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Re: [elektron] Re: can you switch patterns "live" whilst in play mode?

2005-01-21 by Scott Kellogg

Wow, this is great stuff.  Would you mind if I used this on an upcoming 
website as a MD/RS7k tutorial?

/Scott

crvenazvezda91 wrote:

>I'm still awake.... thank god for coffee huh?
>
>Note: Don't have a SFX-60, so not too sure...
>
>For live use, the RS7000 is the master sequencer and I have my
>MachineDrum set up in "Global" (I use 7 for RS7 :P)
>
>Go into: Global -> Midi -> Map Editor
>
>I have mine set up as:
>
>Track:
>01-BD = C -2 (Lowest key availble)
>02-SD = C# -2
>03-HT = D -2
>etc etc
>
>Then I have:
>
>Pattern A 01 = E -1
>Pattern A 02 = F -1
>Pattern A 03 = F# -1
>Pattern A 04 = G -1
>
>etc etc
>
>This allows me to either trigger the individual sounds from the RS7000
>/ midi note.
>
>(Downside is there is only 128 midi notes available, to cover 16 drum
>hits & 128 patterns.... so I sacrifice patterns H01 to H16)
>
>I want to have the Bass Drum? Midi Note = C -2
>
>It also allows me to trigger the patterns as well.
>
>I want to play Pattern A 04? Midi Note = G -1
>(I just a single hit to turn on)
>
>This will play the MachineDrum pattern from beginning to end.
>(Regardless of length of pattern, unless it receives a new note on
>message to trigger a new pattern)
>
>So for a 4 bar loop I'll have:
>
>001-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
>002-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
>003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
>004-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
>
>(Note that I'm retriggering the pattern at the beginning of each bar)
>
>Q: But what if I have a 32 step pattern? What if I have a roll in the
>2nd half of the pattern?
>
>A: Easy, you trigger at the beginning of each pattern for when you
>DON'T want the roll, leave it running when you do:
>
>001-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 16 steps)
>002-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 16 steps)
>003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 32 steps)
>
>(Note that I'm retriggering the pattern at the beginning of bar 1, 2 &
>3; this will cutoff/reset the previous pattern)
>
>At 003-000 I'm triggering the pattern again, but I am NOT interupting
>at all (at 004-000) so it will play for the full 32 steps (2 bars)
>
>From an RS7000 / RM1x perspective you can also do what I do:
>
>001-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
>002-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
>003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
>
>003-240 Physically mute the channel on the RS7000
>
>xxx 004-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
>
>004-240 Physically un-mute the channel on the RS7000
>
>Note: As I've muted the channel on the RS7000 at 003-240 it will not
>send out a new trigger at 004-001, and hence the pattern started at
>003-000 will play for 32 steps (2 bars)
>
>I'll then un-mute the the channel on the RS7000 at 004-240 and it will
>go back to normal.
>
>Q: Can I do this mutliple time? With different MD patterns?
>
>A: Of course, try this:
>
>001-000 E -1 (Play Pattern A 01, 16 steps)
>002-000 F# -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 08 steps)
>002-240 F -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 16 steps)
>003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 32 steps)
>
>Note: Bear in mind that where I've shown xx steps above, it's based on
>how many steps will play on the MD; NOT necessarily the length of the
>actual pattern.
>
>---------
>
>Side-Note; just re-read your post, and maybe got a bit sidetracked
>there :)
>
>Q: Can you switch patterns "live" whilst in play mode?
>
>A: Easy. 
>
>Select Pattern A01
>Press Play
>Select Pattern A12 (It will switch at the end of the bar)
>
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>
>Quote: the real beauty on the rm1x is that you dont even have to wait
>for the bar/measure to end...patterns are switched the minute you
>press the button?
>
>Reply: I'll be honest and say that I'm not sure on this one....
>
>(I have my RS7000 section change quantization set to bar; I know what
>your talking about, and it goes down to 1/16th, but I never use it..
>I'm driving too many cc's and sysex that it would be a pain... plus it
>can really sound shite live...)
>
>In fact I don't think it is possible when in "Pattern" mode.
>
>In "Song" mode, yes it is. (Kind of)
>
>You define which pattern plays when, at what step they start and
>finish, how many times they repeat, which "tracks" are muted etc
>(you can also insert tempo changes as well)
>
>01 Play Pattern A 01 Start at Step 01 - Finish at Step 16 - Repeat x4
>02 Play Pattern B 12 Start at Step 01 - Finish at Step 16 - Repeat x2
>03 Play Pattern H 07 Start at Step 09 - Finish at Step 11 - Repeat x6
>04 Play Pattern E 09 Start at Step 32 - Finish at Step 32 - Repeat x20
>05 Play Pattern C 15 Start at Step 05 - Finish at Step 27 - Repeat x4
>
>Make sense?
>
>Note: I've written entire tracks based on one 16 step pattern and some
>clever use of start / finish offsets, tempo changes and repeats.
>
>-----------
>
>Quote: also, patterns on it are arranged from a to p horizontally
>across the bottom of the keyboard. on the MnM how do you switch
>patterns? is it via the keyboard itself?
>
>Reply: This is for the MachinDrum.....
>
>On the left side of the unit are 4 buttons for banks "A to D" or "E to
>H"; (Labled: A/E, B/F, C/G, D/H)
>
>There is also a "Bank Select" button that toggles between which is
>active, "A to D" or "E to H"
>
>(If you can look at a picture of it you will see what I mean....)
>
>So; the MachineDrum is playing... (Lets say Pattern A01) 
>
>And I want to switch to Pattern A15:
>
>I press and hold button "A/E" and press the "15" button. (along the
>bottom / the actual grid entry / drum trigger)
>
>Now I want to switch to Pattern D06:
>
>I press and hold button "D/H" and press the "06" button. 
>
>Now I want to switch to Pattern G09:
>
>I press the "Bank Select" button to go from banks "A to D" to "E to H"
>
>I press and hold button "C/G" and press the "09" button. 
>
>-----------
>
>I hope that helps?
>
>Rusty
>
>
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>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...>
>wrote:
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>>Actually, I'm curious, too.  I have an SFX-60 and RS7000.  Maybe
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>you 
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>>guys can keep it on the list?
>>
>>/Scott
>>
>>crvenazvezda91 wrote:
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>>>RS7000 & MachineDrum owner here..
>>>
>>>Fire me some questions at:
>>>
>>>redstar96 AT hotmail
>>>
>>>I'll do my best to answer...
>>>
>>>(Sorry, very late at night here and I'm about to crash)
>>>
>>>Rusty
>>>
>>>
>>>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "shekharaugust1973"
>>><shekhardhain@s...> wrote:
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>>>>that's a simple enough question isnt it?
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>>>>you can on the rm1x, rs7000 et al
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>>>>the real beauty on the rm1x is that you dont even have to wait
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>>>>the bar/measure to end...patters are switched the minute you
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>>>>the button?
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>>>>also, patterns on it are arranged from a to p horizontally across
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>>>>bottom of the keyboard. on the MnM how do you switch patterns? is
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>>>>via the keyboard itself?
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>>>>cheers and thanks in advance
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