Dotcomformat

Hello all...

I'm currently researching my first modular set up. Originally it was 
going to be Euro Rack format but after looking around I'm not so 
sure. The Dotcom entry system is very appealing as starting point but 
I can see myself wanting to branch off

- My first question is, how difficult is it to integrate Modcan (B 
Series) modules into a dotcom set up, using the .com power supply? 

- I'm planning on using the rack frames to mount my .com modules into 
a rack system. From what I understand the .com rack frame would need 
to drilled in order to screw in Modcan B series modules, are MOTM 
rack rails directly compatible with Modcan modules or would I have to 
drill those as well? 

- I figure incorporating MOTM modules should be as easy as using 
their rack rails and one of these:

http://www.synthtech.com/testcart/index.php?
main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=183

or some of these :

http://synthesizers.com/qmpsa.html

Is that correct or is there more involved? 

Thnaks for any help with this.

Modcan B is totally interchangeable with MOTM as long as you get 4-pin
to 3-pin power connectors from Modcan.

David


--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "warpt666" <warped666@...> wrote:

>
> Hello all...
> 
> I'm currently researching my first modular set up. Originally it was 
> going to be Euro Rack format but after looking around I'm not so 
> sure. The Dotcom entry system is very appealing as starting point but 
> I can see myself wanting to branch off
> 
> - My first question is, how difficult is it to integrate Modcan (B 
> Series) modules into a dotcom set up, using the .com power supply? 
> 
> - I'm planning on using the rack frames to mount my .com modules into 
> a rack system. From what I understand the .com rack frame would need 
> to drilled in order to screw in Modcan B series modules, are MOTM 
> rack rails directly compatible with Modcan modules or would I have to 
> drill those as well? 
> 
> - I figure incorporating MOTM modules should be as easy as using 
> their rack rails and one of these:
> 
> http://www.synthtech.com/testcart/index.php?
> main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=183
> 
> or some of these :
> 
> http://synthesizers.com/qmpsa.html
> 
> Is that correct or is there more involved? 
> 
> Thnaks for any help with this.
>

So if I were to use this  (.com to MTOM adapter)...

http://www.synthtech.com/testcart/index.php?
main_page=product_info&products_id=183

... connected it to a .com set up and then use the 3 pin to 4 pin adapter, would I be able to 
use Modcan modules with a .com system? 

Will the Modcan modules drop into the MOTM rack rails without any modifications?

Thanks for for your help :)





--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "edgard_varese" <decho3@...> wrote:

>
> Modcan B is totally interchangeable with MOTM as long as you get 4-pin
> to 3-pin power connectors from Modcan.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "warpt666" <warped666@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all...
> > 
> > I'm currently researching my first modular set up. Originally it was 
> > going to be Euro Rack format but after looking around I'm not so 
> > sure. The Dotcom entry system is very appealing as starting point but 
> > I can see myself wanting to branch off
> > 
> > - My first question is, how difficult is it to integrate Modcan (B 
> > Series) modules into a dotcom set up, using the .com power supply? 
> > 
> > - I'm planning on using the rack frames to mount my .com modules into 
> > a rack system. From what I understand the .com rack frame would need 
> > to drilled in order to screw in Modcan B series modules, are MOTM 
> > rack rails directly compatible with Modcan modules or would I have to 
> > drill those as well? 
> > 
> > - I figure incorporating MOTM modules should be as easy as using 
> > their rack rails and one of these:
> > 
> > http://www.synthtech.com/testcart/index.php?
> > main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=183
> > 
> > or some of these :
> > 
> > http://synthesizers.com/qmpsa.html
> > 
> > Is that correct or is there more involved? 
> > 
> > Thnaks for any help with this.
> >
>

If I recall correctly, Modcan module outputs have a +/-2.5V range, 
whereas MOTM and dotcom have +/-5V ranges.

I'm not sure about maximum input levels on Modcan.

Corrections and clarifications welcomed.

John

According to the Synth.com formfactors page. Modcan B and dotcom use 
the same voltage.

http://www.synthesizers.com/formfactors.html

But that's just power supply voltage. However, in spite of any signal
level differences, I cannot stress enough how well Dotcom, MOTM and
Modcan compliment each other. I chose 19 inch racking specifically to
integrate all of these systems.

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "phineousbonemachine"
<berticus_sledge@...> wrote:

>
> According to the Synth.com formfactors page. Modcan B and dotcom use 
> the same voltage.
> 
> http://www.synthesizers.com/formfactors.html
>

I'm looking into the rack frames for the same reason. I could be wrong but I thought I read  
that the Modcan modules will drop into the MOTM rack rails. If so that would great, the 
MOTM rails are less expensive than the  Modcan. 

It appears that the voltage is the same but the connectors are different, correct? 




--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "edgard_varese" <decho3@...> wrote:

>
> But that's just power supply voltage. However, in spite of any signal
> level differences, I cannot stress enough how well Dotcom, MOTM and
> Modcan compliment each other. I chose 19 inch racking specifically to
> integrate all of these systems.
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "phineousbonemachine"
> <berticus_sledge@> wrote:
> >
> > According to the Synth.com formfactors page. Modcan B and dotcom use 
> > the same voltage.
> > 
> > http://www.synthesizers.com/formfactors.html
> >
>

The rails are the same. The screws are the same. You just need to tell
Bruce that you're powering them from the MOTM 4-pin connectors, and
he'll give you the proper cables.

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "warpt666" <warped666@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking into the rack frames for the same reason. I could be
wrong but I thought I read  
> that the Modcan modules will drop into the MOTM rack rails. If so
that would great, the 
> MOTM rails are less expensive than the  Modcan. 
> 
> It appears that the voltage is the same but the connectors are
different, correct? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "edgard_varese" <decho3@> wrote:
> >
> > But that's just power supply voltage. However, in spite of any signal
> > level differences, I cannot stress enough how well Dotcom, MOTM and
> > Modcan compliment each other. I chose 19 inch racking specifically to
> > integrate all of these systems.
> > 
> > --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "phineousbonemachine"
> > <berticus_sledge@> wrote:
> > >
> > > According to the Synth.com formfactors page. Modcan B and dotcom
use 

> > > the same voltage.
> > > 
> > > http://www.synthesizers.com/formfactors.html
> > >
> >
>

At 05:54 PM 10/31/2008, edgard_varese wrote:
>But that's just power supply voltage. However, in spite of any signal
>level differences, I cannot stress enough how well Dotcom, MOTM and
>Modcan compliment each other. I chose 19 inch racking specifically to
>integrate all of these systems.

Just to be clear: I wouldn't let the level differences stop me from 
getting cool Modcan modules. As I've said, it's just something that 
you need to be aware of.

Modcan's high prices are what has stopped me, so far. But I'm not 
saying never! :-) Very compelling modules.

John

Now if someone would post a couple of pics showing me how to run Modcan 
B modules with my DotCom power supply, I would start filling my empty 
portable 22.

Bruce wasn't much help, and at $750 USD for a case and power supply, I 
just can't see buying right now. I have a perfectly working portable 22 
and power supply.

l8r

P

Hi Phineas,

You are mistaken about the Modcan pricing.
It is about $750 CANADIAN dollars, not USD.

The case and power supply comes out to approximately $600 USD maybe a 
little less, depending on how you send the money.  Still not cheap, 
admittedly, but a little more reasonable.

-R

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "phineousbonemachine" 
<berticus_sledge@...> wrote:
>
> Now if someone would post a couple of pics showing me how to run 
Modcan 
> B modules with my DotCom power supply, I would start filling my empty 
> portable 22.
> 
> Bruce wasn't much help, and at $750 USD for a case and power supply, 
I 
> just can't see buying right now. I have a perfectly working portable 
22 

> and power supply.
> 
> l8r
> 
> P
>

Bruce switched it back to USD recently. It had been Canadian for a bit.

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "rafe127" <rafael.cohen@...> wrote:

>
> 
> Hi Phineas,
> 
> You are mistaken about the Modcan pricing.
> It is about $750 CANADIAN dollars, not USD.
> 
> The case and power supply comes out to approximately $600 USD maybe a 
> little less, depending on how you send the money.  Still not cheap, 
> admittedly, but a little more reasonable.
> 
> -R
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "phineousbonemachine" 
> <berticus_sledge@> wrote:
> >
> > Now if someone would post a couple of pics showing me how to run 
> Modcan 
> > B modules with my DotCom power supply, I would start filling my empty 
> > portable 22.
> > 
> > Bruce wasn't much help, and at $750 USD for a case and power supply, 
> I 
> > just can't see buying right now. I have a perfectly working portable 
> 22 
> > and power supply.
> > 
> > l8r
> > 
> > P
> >
>

Whoops, you are absolutely right, my mistake.  I paid my deposit to 
Bruce in $CAD, and I have not yet been asked to pay the balance... so 
I guess I hadn't looked at his website in a few weeks.

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "edgard_varese" <decho3@...> 
wrote:
>
> Bruce switched it back to USD recently. It had been Canadian for a 
bit.
> 
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "rafe127" <rafael.cohen@> 
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Hi Phineas,
> > 
> > You are mistaken about the Modcan pricing.
> > It is about $750 CANADIAN dollars, not USD.
> > 
> > The case and power supply comes out to approximately $600 USD 
maybe a 
> > little less, depending on how you send the money.  Still not 
cheap, 
> > admittedly, but a little more reasonable.
> > 
> > -R
> > 
> > --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "phineousbonemachine" 
> > <berticus_sledge@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Now if someone would post a couple of pics showing me how to 
run 
> > Modcan 
> > > B modules with my DotCom power supply, I would start filling my 
empty 
> > > portable 22.
> > > 
> > > Bruce wasn't much help, and at $750 USD for a case and power 
supply, 
> > I 
> > > just can't see buying right now. I have a perfectly working 
portable 

> > 22 
> > > and power supply.
> > > 
> > > l8r
> > > 
> > > P
> > >
> >
>