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Goldberg Variations

2010-09-19 by sekharni

Can anyone point me to a source for solo piano midi of Bach's Goldberg variations compatible with disklavier mark iv?

Thanks,
Nik

Re: [disklavier] Goldberg Variations

2010-09-20 by Spencer chase

This is an audio CD, I thought it was Disklavier music that was sought. Zenph Studios produced a CD of the 1955 recording by Gould for the Live Performance LX system. It is amazing. As far as I know it was produced only for the LX but it might be released in other formats in the future? If you like Bach and or Gould you should make it a point to hear this performance on an LX piano.

On 9/20/2010 7:39 AM, RE P G C wrote:
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I got my copy from Amazon, I am not sure this one is the same, please send me a private message.

http://www.amazon.com/State-Wonder-Complete-Goldberg-Variations/dp/B00006FI7C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1284992921&sr=1-3-fkmr0


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Re: [disklavier] Goldberg Variations

2010-09-20 by George F. Litterst

Good morning, everyone.

I think that the original question was about finding a MIDI file for the Goldberg variations. The link in the message below is for an audio recording.

Interestingly, the following audio recording of the Goldberg variations:

http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Goldberg-Variations-Performance-Re-performance/dp/B000LE0THE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1284994601&sr=1-1

was made using a concert grand Disklavier and MIDI file that was derived from the earlier audio recording by Glen Gould. The "re-performance" version is the preferred version because it is in stereo whereas the original Gould recording was in mono.

The MIDI data for the re-performance is no commercially available.

You can get more information about Zenph Sound Innovations--the company that creates these re-performances--here:

http://www.zenph.com/

Regards,
PianoBench


www.georgelitterst.com
www.timewarptech.com
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On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:39 AM, RE P G C wrote:

> 
> I got my copy from Amazon, I am not sure this one is the same, please send me a private message.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/State-Wonder-Complete-Goldberg-Variations/dp/B00006FI7C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1284992921&sr=1-3-fkmr0
> 
> 
> -- 
> Saludos

Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-09-20 by Joan

http://www.sdrodrian.com/bach/the_goldberg_variations/

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" <PianoBench@...> wrote:
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>
> Good morning, everyone.
> 
> I think that the original question was about finding a MIDI file for the Goldberg variations. The link in the message below is for an audio recording.
> 
> Interestingly, the following audio recording of the Goldberg variations:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Goldberg-Variations-Performance-Re-performance/dp/B000LE0THE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1284994601&sr=1-1
> 
> was made using a concert grand Disklavier and MIDI file that was derived from the earlier audio recording by Glen Gould. The "re-performance" version is the preferred version because it is in stereo whereas the original Gould recording was in mono.
> 
> The MIDI data for the re-performance is no commercially available.
> 
> You can get more information about Zenph Sound Innovations--the company that creates these re-performances--here:
> 
> http://www.zenph.com/
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench
> 
> 
> www.georgelitterst.com
> www.timewarptech.com
> 
> On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:39 AM, RE P G C wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I got my copy from Amazon, I am not sure this one is the same, please send me a private message.
> > 
> > http://www.amazon.com/State-Wonder-Complete-Goldberg-Variations/dp/B00006FI7C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1284992921&sr=1-3-fkmr0
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Saludos
>

Re: [disklavier] Goldberg Variations

2010-09-20 by RE P G C

Hi George, since I just moved to a new city all my CDs still are in cartoon boxes, but I remember having a 2 or 3 CD set with (2 audio, 1 Midi) but my memory is not very good these days, so maybe I am wrong.

(I can remember the cover and is not any of the ones in amazon)

(the audio CDs have the original version and the disklavier Reconstruction, this ones I have here in the HD as MP3)

Best regards as always

___,,,^..^,,,___

Re: [disklavier] Goldberg Variations

2010-09-20 by RE P G C

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2010/9/20 George F. Litterst <PianoBench@...>

Good morning, everyone.


I think that the original question was about finding a MIDI file for the Goldberg variations. The link in the message below is for an audio recording.

Interestingly, the following audio recording of the Goldberg variations:


was made using a concert grand Disklavier and MIDI file that was derived from the earlier audio recording by Glen Gould. The "re-performance" version is the preferred version because it is in stereo whereas the original Gould recording was in mono.

The MIDI data for the re-performance is no commercially available.

You can get more information about Zenph Sound Innovations--the company that creates these re-performances--here:


Regards,
PianoBench



On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:39 AM, RE P G C wrote:


I got my copy from Amazon, I am not sure this one is the same, please send me a private message.

http://www.amazon.com/State-Wonder-Complete-Goldberg-Variations/dp/B00006FI7C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1284992921&sr=1-3-fkmr0


--
Saludos



--
Saludos

___,,,^..^,,,___

Re: [disklavier] Goldberg Variations

2010-09-20 by RE P G C

It seems that the Glen Gould CD is one thing and the MIDI files a different one.(not from Zenph)

Any way I have both.
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2010/9/20 RE P G C <re_p_g_c@...>
http://www.jsbach.net/midi/midi_goldbergvariations.html


2010/9/20 George F. Litterst <PianoBench@aol.com>

Good morning, everyone.


I think that the original question was about finding a MIDI file for the Goldberg variations. The link in the message below is for an audio recording.

Interestingly, the following audio recording of the Goldberg variations:


was made using a concert grand Disklavier and MIDI file that was derived from the earlier audio recording by Glen Gould. The "re-performance" version is the preferred version because it is in stereo whereas the original Gould recording was in mono.

The MIDI data for the re-performance is no commercially available.

You can get more information about Zenph Sound Innovations--the company that creates these re-performances--here:


Regards,
PianoBench



On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:39 AM, RE P G C wrote:


I got my copy from Amazon, I am not sure this one is the same, please send me a private message.

http://www.amazon.com/State-Wonder-Complete-Goldberg-Variations/dp/B00006FI7C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1284992921&sr=1-3-fkmr0


--
Saludos



--
Saludos

___,,,^..^,,,___



--
Saludos

___,,,^..^,,,___

Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-09-20 by sekharni

Thank you
I downloaded that midi file
Nik

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Joan" <jheitzeb1@...> wrote:
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>
> http://www.sdrodrian.com/bach/the_goldberg_variations/
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" <PianoBench@> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning, everyone.
> > 
> > I think that the original question was about finding a MIDI file for the Goldberg variations. The link in the message below is for an audio recording.
> > 
> > Interestingly, the following audio recording of the Goldberg variations:
> > 
> > http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Goldberg-Variations-Performance-Re-performance/dp/B000LE0THE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1284994601&sr=1-1
> > 
> > was made using a concert grand Disklavier and MIDI file that was derived from the earlier audio recording by Glen Gould. The "re-performance" version is the preferred version because it is in stereo whereas the original Gould recording was in mono.
> > 
> > The MIDI data for the re-performance is no commercially available.
> > 
> > You can get more information about Zenph Sound Innovations--the company that creates these re-performances--here:
> > 
> > http://www.zenph.com/
> > 
> > Regards,
> > PianoBench
> > 
> > 
> > www.georgelitterst.com
> > www.timewarptech.com
> > 
> > On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:39 AM, RE P G C wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I got my copy from Amazon, I am not sure this one is the same, please send me a private message.
> > > 
> > > http://www.amazon.com/State-Wonder-Complete-Goldberg-Variations/dp/B00006FI7C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1284992921&sr=1-3-fkmr0
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Saludos
> >
>

Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-09-21 by sekharni

This file had a harpsichord playing in the background through the speakers.  does anyone have a link to a solo piano midi of the goldberg variations?

Thanks,
Nik




--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Joan" <jheitzeb1@...> wrote:
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>
> http://www.sdrodrian.com/bach/the_goldberg_variations/
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" <PianoBench@> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning, everyone.
> > 
> > I think that the original question was about finding a MIDI file for the Goldberg variations. The link in the message below is for an audio recording.
> > 
> > Interestingly, the following audio recording of the Goldberg variations:
> > 
> > http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Goldberg-Variations-Performance-Re-performance/dp/B000LE0THE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1284994601&sr=1-1
> > 
> > was made using a concert grand Disklavier and MIDI file that was derived from the earlier audio recording by Glen Gould. The "re-performance" version is the preferred version because it is in stereo whereas the original Gould recording was in mono.
> > 
> > The MIDI data for the re-performance is no commercially available.
> > 
> > You can get more information about Zenph Sound Innovations--the company that creates these re-performances--here:
> > 
> > http://www.zenph.com/
> > 
> > Regards,
> > PianoBench
> > 
> > 
> > www.georgelitterst.com
> > www.timewarptech.com
> > 
> > On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:39 AM, RE P G C wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I got my copy from Amazon, I am not sure this one is the same, please send me a private message.
> > > 
> > > http://www.amazon.com/State-Wonder-Complete-Goldberg-Variations/dp/B00006FI7C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1284992921&sr=1-3-fkmr0
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Saludos
> >
>

Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-09-30 by Joan

http://www.bachcentral.com/BachCentral/midiindexcomplete.html

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" <sekharni@...> wrote:
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> Can anyone point me to a source for solo piano midi of Bach's Goldberg variations compatible with disklavier mark iv?
> 
> Thanks,
> Nik
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-10-01 by Spencer chase

Does this sound as bad on other pianos as it does on mine? Or am I just spoiled by the Gould version?

On 9/30/2010 8:09 AM, Joan wrote:
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http://www.bachcentral.com/BachCentral/midiindexcomplete.html

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" wrote:
>
> Can anyone point me to a source for solo piano midi of Bach's Goldberg variations compatible with disklavier mark iv?
>
> Thanks,
> Nik
>


-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-10-01 by Joan

It sounded good on the website, but seems to sound horrible on my Mark IV.  it seems to be using more than 2 channels.  Sorry, scratch that link.



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Spencer chase <lists@...> wrote:
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>
>   Does this sound as bad on other pianos as it does on mine? Or am I 
> just spoiled by the Gould version?
> 
> On 9/30/2010 8:09 AM, Joan wrote:
> >
> > http://www.bachcentral.com/BachCentral/midiindexcomplete.html
> >
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com>, "sekharni" <sekharni@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anyone point me to a source for solo piano midi of Bach's 
> > Goldberg variations compatible with disklavier mark iv?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nik
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards, Spencer Chase
> 67550-Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
> Spencer@...
> http://www.spencerserolls.com
> (707) 984-8356
> (707) 972-3149
>

Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-10-03 by Joan

I keep trying to find something, you might look at this midi file

http://www.geocities.jp/imyfujita/goldberg/goldberg.mid

and try it on your Mark IV.  


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" <sekharni@...> wrote:
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>
> Can anyone point me to a source for solo piano midi of Bach's Goldberg variations compatible with disklavier mark iv?
> 
> Thanks,
> Nik
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-10-04 by Spencer chase

This is a lifeless sequencer arrangement from the sheet music. It is so metronomic as to put anyone to sleep. The velocity is fixed at two or possibly three levels an sticks at each level for long periods. There is absolutely no musical performance to it.

I have not listened to it yet but there is one recording for the Yamaha E-Comp of 2004. Here is the copied info from my file that adds metadata to LX files. Should be able to use this to find it on the Yamaha site. My guess is that it is much better than either of the previously recommended "performances".
OUSSET03(2004) Goldberg Variations No. 1-14 Bach Oussetskaia, Vera LX digital Yamaha E-Comp 2004

On 10/3/2010 2:29 PM, Joan wrote:
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I keep trying to find something, you might look at this midi file

http://www.geocities.jp/imyfujita/goldberg/goldberg.mid

and try it on your Mark IV.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" wrote:
>
> Can anyone point me to a source for solo piano midi of Bach's Goldberg variations compatible with disklavier mark iv?
>
> Thanks,
> Nik
>


-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

Re: [disklavier] Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-10-04 by Spencer chase

There is a wrong link for the complete program of Vera Oussetskia on the E-Comp site for the regular MIDI files. It is correct for the HI res. The Goldberg Vars as a single work is correctly linked.

On 10/3/2010 9:39 PM, Spencer chase wrote:
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This is a lifeless sequencer arrangement from the sheet music. It is so metronomic as to put anyone to sleep. The velocity is fixed at two or possibly three levels an sticks at each level for long periods. There is absolutely no musical performance to it.

I have not listened to it yet but there is one recording for the Yamaha E-Comp of 2004. Here is the copied info from my file that adds metadata to LX files. Should be able to use this to find it on the Yamaha site. My guess is that it is much better than either of the previously recommended "performances".
OUSSET03(2004) Goldberg Variations No. 1-14 Bach Oussetskaia, Vera LX digital Yamaha E-Comp 2004

On 10/3/2010 2:29 PM, Joan wrote:

I keep trying to find something, you might look at this midi file

http://www.geocities.jp/imyfujita/goldberg/goldberg.mid

and try it on your Mark IV.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" wrote:
>
> Can anyone point me to a source for solo piano midi of Bach's Goldberg variations compatible with disklavier mark iv?
>
> Thanks,
> Nik
>


-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

Re: [disklavier] Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-10-04 by Spencer chase

I listened to the E-comp performance listed below and it is not very good. Also just the first 14, not the whole set of variations. I do not generally like Bach on the piano. Most pianists play Bach without any feeling. There are notable exceptions and when they arise they can be truly remarkable. Gould's performance is one of these. I could listen to it every day and I am not a big Bach fan. I gave up on the E-Comp performance after about 2 minutes.

On 10/3/2010 9:55 PM, Spencer chase wrote:
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There is a wrong link for the complete program of Vera Oussetskia on the E-Comp site for the regular MIDI files. It is correct for the HI res. The Goldberg Vars as a single work is correctly linked.

On 10/3/2010 9:39 PM, Spencer chase wrote:

This is a lifeless sequencer arrangement from the sheet music. It is so metronomic as to put anyone to sleep. The velocity is fixed at two or possibly three levels an sticks at each level for long periods. There is absolutely no musical performance to it.

I have not listened to it yet but there is one recording for the Yamaha E-Comp of 2004. Here is the copied info from my file that adds metadata to LX files. Should be able to use this to find it on the Yamaha site. My guess is that it is much better than either of the previously recommended "performances".
OUSSET03(2004) Goldberg Variations No. 1-14 Bach Oussetskaia, Vera LX digital Yamaha E-Comp 2004

On 10/3/2010 2:29 PM, Joan wrote:

I keep trying to find something, you might look at this midi file

http://www.geocities.jp/imyfujita/goldberg/goldberg.mid

and try it on your Mark IV.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" wrote:
>
> Can anyone point me to a source for solo piano midi of Bach's Goldberg variations compatible with disklavier mark iv?
>
> Thanks,
> Nik
>


-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

Re: [disklavier] Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-10-14 by Chine-Chine Wang

Has anyone mentioned this version:
This pianist (Mehmet Okonsar) has several CD titles out there that include both audio and MIDI data. Sorry if it';s already been discussed and I missed it somewhere in the long thread.
Chine-Chine


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On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Spencer chase <lists@spencerserolls.com> wrote:


I listened to the E-comp performance listed below and it is not very good. Also just the first 14, not the whole set of variations. I do not generally like Bach on the piano. Most pianists play Bach without any feeling. There are notable exceptions and when they arise they can be truly remarkable. Gould's performance is one of these. I could listen to it every day and I am not a big Bach fan. I gave up on the E-Comp performance after about 2 minutes.

On 10/3/2010 9:55 PM, Spencer chase wrote:

There is a wrong link for the complete program of Vera Oussetskia on the E-Comp site for the regular MIDI files. It is correct for the HI res. The Goldberg Vars as a single work is correctly linked.

On 10/3/2010 9:39 PM, Spencer chase wrote:

This is a lifeless sequencer arrangement from the sheet music. It is so metronomic as to put anyone to sleep. The velocity is fixed at two or possibly three levels an sticks at each level for long periods. There is absolutely no musical performance to it.

I have not listened to it yet but there is one recording for the Yamaha E-Comp of 2004. Here is the copied info from my file that adds metadata to LX files. Should be able to use this to find it on the Yamaha site. My guess is that it is much better than either of the previously recommended "performances".

OUSSET03(2004) Goldberg Variations No. 1-14 Bach Oussetskaia, Vera LX digital Yamaha E-Comp 2004

On 10/3/2010 2:29 PM, Joan wrote:

I keep trying to find something, you might look at this midi file

http://www.geocities.jp/imyfujita/goldberg/goldberg.mid

and try it on your Mark IV.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" wrote:
>
> Can anyone point me to a source for solo piano midi of Bach's Goldberg variations compatible with disklavier mark iv?
>
> Thanks,
> Nik
>


-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149



Re: [disklavier] Re: Goldberg Variations

2010-10-14 by JORGE FERNANDEZ

Finaly, it seems this is the one I Have, but couldnt find the reference.

Mine still is a carton box because of my home chage of city.

--
Saludos

___,,,^..^,,,___

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