Disklavier

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 12:44 PM, dennis.baldwin@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I really need this groups help please and I hope this is the right format to use.  I purchased a Yamaha Disklavier (model GB1 S/N # J23221XXX which I believe is a Mark III with DKC850) as a family Christmas present.  I downloaded some midi files from Yamaha MusicSoft (I selected the E3 as the instrument not knowing at the time this was most likely a Mark III instrument) and transfer them to a flash drive.  The DKC850 is designed for a CD or a USB 2 input format.  However, when I play any of these midi files the volume is very loud and not conducive to conversations.  We called the dealer we purchased the piano from and their suggest was to have a technician adjust the piano but they indicated it could affect some of the keys (not sure why).  However, it seems to me the problem is not the piano but the midi file volume.  So I downloaded the DKVUTILS files and used VELOSET to try and adjust the volume or velocity for a given track but when I save and test the file the midi file is just as loud as before. I also downloaded Yamaha’s  XG works and that did not seem to make a difference so I also downloaded shareware Anvil Studio software and adjusted the volume on the midi file as well.  None of these correct the issue with the volume being played by the Disklavier.  I also noticed that if I saved  the modified midi file with a file name like Test_1 or some other name when I insert the flash drive and locate the files it is still reading the file of the name of the song rather than the modified file name.
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> Having discovered that it appears that the instrument is a MARKIII with DKC0850 I went back out to Yamaha MusicSoft and downloaded another set of songs.  I also downloaded the Yamaha MusicSoft downloader.  Given the parameters I put in the file was saved in a PSX which is asking for a Double Density Floppy disk.  I have not owned a floppy disk in 10 years.  This is completely new territory for me so I am going about this blindly. 
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> I have several questions.  1.  Does it make a difference to the piano if it is downloaded as a E3 instrument vs. the MARK III instrument format?  2.  Any suggestions (should I have to use the MARK III instrument format) how I can convert the file so it would work on the DKC-850 which is only disk and USB2 formats?  3. Am I correct that the GB1 is a MARKIII model?  4. How can I get the volume lower?  Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  My wife gave me a few weeks to resolve the issue and if I could not she was going to follow the suggestion of the Yamaha salesperson I purchased the piano from.  However, this seems to be the wrong approach to me the issue is not the piano but the midi files the piano is playing.
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      From: "rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
 Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier
   
    Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .
One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. 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> On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond mikeb44683@... [disklavier] <disklavier@...m> wrote:
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> I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier.  I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano.  A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less.  Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument.  I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over.  I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh.  The physics won't allow it.  Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.
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> From: "rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier
> 
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> Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 
> I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .
> 
> One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!
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> On Jan 9, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Sam Kanter skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> One can throw a heavy blanket over the piano, but that's not a very good solution. 😉
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> Sam
> www.keyboardcollective.com
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> *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
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>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond mikeb44683@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier.  I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano.  A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less.  Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument.  I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over.  I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh.  The physics won't allow it.  Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.
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>> From: "rightnightboy@hotmail.com [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
>> Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier
>> 
>>  
>> Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 
>> I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .
>> 
>> One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!
> 
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From: Sam Kanter skanter123@...m [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:47 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier


 


 


One can throw a heavy blanket over the piano, but that's not a very good solution. 😉


Sam


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On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond HYPERLINK "mailto:mikeb44683@..."mikeb44683@... [disklavier] <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 


I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier.  I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano.  A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less.  Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument.  I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over.  I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh.  The physics won't allow it.  Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.


 




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From: "HYPERLINK "mailto:rightnightboy@..."rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier


 


 


Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 


I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .


 


One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!

From: james bond mikeb44683@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 1:48 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier


 


 


I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier.  I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano.  A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less.  Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument.  I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over.  I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh.  The physics won't allow it.  Again,&n! bsp;I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.


 


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From: "HYPERLINK "mailto:rightnightboy@...%20[disklavier]"rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January! 9, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier


 


 


Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 


I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .


 


One other thing i find that files that are ! stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!

From: rightnightboy@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:09 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier


 


 


Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 


I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .


 


One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc secti! on or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!

Rightnightboy; Thanks very much for your E-Mail and I wanted to ask you another question. You indicated below that on your MAC you use some software which you use to remap the velocity. What I have been doing is (Windows) is using one of several different shareware programs to change either the volume or the velocity but when I play the modified files from the flash drive it seems to be at the very same level as the original unmodified file. What software are you using? I have an iPad and was going to download the software via a wireless bridge so I can use the iPad which does have a volume setting (although I doubt it will make a difference). Is the “voiced” something that is done by a Yamaha tech or something I can do?

Dennis Baldwin, PMP, Ph. D. | Project Director
Oracle Consulting Services

Mobile: +1 813-465-8952

2502 Rocky Point Dr | Suite 600 | Tampa, Florida 33607

From: rightnightboy@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:09 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play.

I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .

One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc secti! on or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!

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From: Spencer Chase lists@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 11:41 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

don't know what windows programs you use to change velocity but i have one that i know works and can be verified. 
it is called midimod2 and you can get it from my spencerserolls.com site on the download page. it includes a feature to display a velocity distribution histogram of any midi file so you can see before and after plots. i also have a file player (it is nothing great in several respects) that does modify velocity realtime. i think i also wrote some little applications that send volume controllers to midi devices but i doubt the effect would be much different from using the volume control on the piano and depending on the version of windows can require something like midiox to glue it all together. i do not haeve any programs written for the Mac but most of my stuff does run under the various virtualizations programs. i have not tried any with VirtualBox on the Mac but it would probably work.

On 1/11/2016 5:52 AM, Dennis Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:dennis.baldwin@..."dennis.baldwin@... [disklavier] wrote:

  

Rightnightboy; Thanks very much for your E-Mail and I wanted to ask you another question.  You indicated below that on your MAC you use some software which you use to remap the velocity.  What I have been doing is (Windows) is using one of several different shareware programs to change either the volume or the velocity but when I play the modified files from the flash drive it seems to be at the very same level as the original unmodified file.  What software are you using?  I have an iPad and was going to download the software via a wireless bridge so I can use the iPad which does have a volume setting (although I doubt it will make a difference).  Is the “voiced” something that is done by a Yamaha tech or something I can do?

 

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To: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 

I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .

 

One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc secti! on or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!





-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
21220 92nd Place W., Edmonds, WA 98020
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spencer@spencerserolls.com"Spencer@...
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spencer@..."Spencer@...
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spencer@..."Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
http://www.poodlex.com
(425) 791-0309
(707) 223-8212

From: Spencer Chase lists@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 11:41 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

don't know what windows programs you use to change velocity but i have one that i know works and can be verified. 
it is called midimod2 and you can get it from my spencerserolls.com site on the download page. it includes a feature to display a velocity distribution histogram of any midi file so you can see before and after plots. i also have a file player (it is nothing great in several respects) that does modify velocity realtime. i think i also wrote some little applications that send volume controllers to midi devices but i doubt the effect would be much different from using the volume control on the piano and depending on the version of windows can require something like midiox to glue it all together. i do not haeve any programs written for the Mac but most of my stuff does run under the various virtualizations programs. i have not tried any with VirtualBox on the Mac but it would probably work.

On 1/11/2016 5:52 AM, Dennis Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:dennis.baldwin@..."dennis.baldwin@... [disklavier] wrote:

  

Rightnightboy; Thanks very much for your E-Mail and I wanted to ask you another question.  You indicated below that on your MAC you use some software which you use to remap the velocity.  What I have been doing is (Windows) is using one of several different shareware programs to change either the volume or the velocity but when I play the modified files from the flash drive it seems to be at the very same level as the original unmodified file.  What software are you using?  I have an iPad and was going to download the software via a wireless bridge so I can use the iPad which does have a volume setting (although I doubt it will make a difference).  Is the “voiced” something that is done by a Yamaha tech or something I can do?

 

HYPERLINK "http://www.oracle.com/"Oracle

Dennis Baldwin, PMP, Ph. D. | Project Director 
Oracle Consulting Services

Mobile: +1 813-465-8952 

2502 Rocky Point Dr | Suite 600 | Tampa, Florida 33607 

 

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:rightnightboy@..."rightnightboy@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:09 AM
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 

I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .

 

One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc secti! on or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!





-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
21220 92nd Place W., Edmonds, WA 98020
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spencer@..."Spencer@spencerserolls.com
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spencer@..."Spencer@...
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spencer@..."Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
http://www.poodlex.com
(425) 791-0309
(707) 223-8212

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Dennis Baldwin dennis.baldwin@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Well it may be coming to that….  :>)
> 
>  
> 
> <image007.jpg>
> 
> Dennis Baldwin, PMP, Ph. D. | Project Director 
> Oracle Consulting Services
> 
> Mobile: +1 813-465-8952
> 
> 2502 Rocky Point Dr | Suite 600 | Tampa, Florida 33607
> 
>  
> 
> <image008.jpg>
> 
>  
> 
> <image009.jpg>
> 
>  
> 
> From: Sam Kanter skanter123@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:47 PM
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> One can throw a heavy blanket over the piano, but that's not a very good solution. 😉
> 
> Sam
> 
> www.keyboardcollective.com
> 
> (212) 684-3304
> 
>  
> 
> *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
> 
> 
> On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond mikeb44683@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier.  I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano.  A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less.  Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument.  I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over.  I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh.  The physics won't allow it.  Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.
> 
>  
> 
> From: "rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 
> 
> I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .
> 
>  
> 
> One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!
> 
>  
> 
> 
>

From: Sam Kanter skanter123@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:47 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

One can throw a heavy blanket over the piano, but that's not a very good solution. 😉

Sam

www.keyboardcollective.com

(212) 684-3304

*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)

On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond mikeb44683@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier. I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano. A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less. Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument. I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over. I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh. The physics won't allow it. Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.

From: "rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play.

I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .

One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
21220 92nd Place W., Edmonds, WA 98020
Spencer@spencerserolls.com
Spencer@...
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
http://www.poodlex.com
(425) 791-0309
(707) 223-8212

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Spencer Chase lists@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> i completely agree with this. i listen only at performance levels. if i am listening to music i am listening to music.
> 
> it is amazing how rare this is, most people have some sort of noise all the time, TV, games, phone and music and some time even a combination of them. i must be from another planet.
> 
> 
> On 1/11/2016 2:55 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@gmail.com <mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] wrote:
>>  
>> I think the idea of using a DKV for "background music " (a concept I generally abhor anyway) will not work unless the space is very large.  Use the digital piano and play at the volume level that is appropriate.
>> 
>> I like to use the DKV to -listen- to performances, as if there were a live musician playing.
>> YMMV
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Dennis Baldwin  <mailto:dennis.baldwin@...>dennis.baldwin@oracle.com <mailto:dennis.baldwin@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> Well it may be coming to that….  :>)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> <image007.jpg> <http://www.oracle.com/>
>>> Dennis Baldwin, PMP, Ph. D. | Project Director 
>>> Oracle Consulting Services
>>> 
>>> Mobile: +1 813-465-8952 
>>> 
>>> 2502 Rocky Point Dr | Suite 600 | Tampa, Florida 33607 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> <image008.jpg> <http://www.oracle.com/>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> <image009.jpg>
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Sam Kanter  <mailto:skanter123@...>skanter123@gmail.com <mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>] 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:47 PM
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>   
>>> 
>>> One can throw a heavy blanket over the piano, but that's not a very good solution. 😉
>>> 
>>> Sam
>>> 
>>>  <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/>www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/>
>>> (212) 684-3304
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond  <mailto:mikeb44683@...>mikeb44683@... <mailto:mikeb44683@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
>>> 
>>> I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier.  I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano.  A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less.  Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument.  I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over.  I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh.  The physics won't allow it.  Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: "rightnightboy@hotmail.com <mailto:rightnightboy@...> [disklavier]" < <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>>
>>> To:  <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>disklavier@...m <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
>>> Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>   
>>> 
>>> Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 
>>> 
>>> I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards, Spencer Chase
> 67550-Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
> 21220 92nd Place W., Edmonds, WA 98020
> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...>
> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...>
> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...>
> http://www.spencerserolls.com <http://www.spencerserolls.com/>
> http://www.poodlex.com <http://www.poodlex.com/>
> (425) 791-0309
> (707) 223-8212
> 
>

From: Sam Kanter skanter123@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:47 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

One can throw a heavy blanket over the piano, but that's not a very good solution. 😉

Sam

www.keyboardcollective.com

(212) 684-3304

*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)

On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond mikeb44683@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier. I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano. A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less. Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument. I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over. I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh. The physics won't allow it. Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.

From: "rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play.

I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .

One other thing i find that files that are stored on the (Message over 64 KB, truncated)

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 6:32 PM, Spencer Chase lists@spencerserolls.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> i completely agree with this. i listen only at performance levels. if i am listening to music i am listening to music.
> 
> it is amazing how rare this is, most people have some sort of noise all the time, TV, games, phone and music and some time even a combination of them. i must be from another planet.
> 
>> On 1/11/2016 2:55 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] wrote:
>>  
>> I think the idea of using a DKV for "background music " (a concept I generally abhor anyway) will not work unless the space is very large.  Use the digital piano and play at the volume level that is appropriate.
>> 
>> I like to use the DKV to -listen- to performances, as if there were a live musician playing.
>> YMMV
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Dennis Baldwin dennis.baldwin@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> Well it may be coming to that….  :>)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> <image007.jpg>
>>> 
>>> Dennis Baldwin, PMP, Ph. D. | Project Director 
>>> Oracle Consulting Services
>>> 
>>> Mobile: +1 813-465-8952
>>> 
>>> 2502 Rocky Point Dr | Suite 600 | Tampa, Florida 33607
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> <image008.jpg>
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> <image009.jpg>
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Sam Kanter skanter123@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:47 PM
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> One can throw a heavy blanket over the piano, but that's not a very good solution. 😉
>>> 
>>> Sam
>>> 
>>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>>> 
>>> (212) 684-3304
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond mikeb44683@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier.  I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano.  A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less.  Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument.  I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over.  I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh.  The physics won't allow it.  Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: "rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
>>> Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 
>>> 
>>> I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is                                                           not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards, Spencer Chase
> 67550-Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
> 21220 92nd Place W., Edmonds, WA 98020
> Spencer@...
> Spencer@...
> Spencer@...
> http://www.spencerserolls.com
> http://www.poodlex.com
> (425) 791-0309
> (707) 223-8212
>

From: Horatio Kemeny hkemeny@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 6:43 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

That’s a pretty wide spectrum of “noise” that you’ve described there. Between a silent concert hall with a symphony orchestra performing… and a house full of kids with their noise, a TV, the phone ringing etc — there’s a lot of room between those two extremes.

 

While I enjoy my DKV as an actual piano most of the time (you know, actually playing it) and sometimes putting on a performance from some of those excellent PianoSoft Plus Audio CDs, a great use I’ve found is DKV radio. Turn that on to a channel like “Sue Downs Mix Tape”, and you’ll feel like you’re in a genuine cocktail bar. Fantastic for when you have a few friends over — it’s a totally different vibe than having the usual background music, and it’s great.

 

This, of course, is without going into the merits (or lack thereof) of background music… which is something that doesn’t need to be around all the time, but there’s certainly a time and place for it.

 

…..HK

 

 

On Jan 11, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Spencer Chase HYPERLINK "mailto:lists@..."lists@... [disklavier] <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

i completely agree with this. i listen only at performance levels. if i am listening to music i am listening to music.

it is amazing how rare this is, most people have some sort of noise all the time, TV, games, phone and music and some time even a combination of them. i must be from another planet.

On 1/11/2016 2:55 PM, Skanter123 HYPERLINK "mailto:skanter123@..."skanter123@... [disklavier] wrote:

 

I think the idea of using a DKV for "background music " (a concept I generally abhor anyway) will not work unless the space is very large.  Use the digital piano and play at the volume level that is appropriate.

 

I like to use the DKV to -listen- to performances, as if there were a live musician playing.

YMMV

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Dennis Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:dennis.baldwin@..."dennis.baldwin@... [disklavier] <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Well it may be coming to that….  :>)

 

HYPERLINK "http://www.oracle.com/"<image007.jpg>

Dennis Baldwin, PMP, Ph. D. | Project Director 
Oracle Consulting Services

Mobile: +1 813-465-8952 

2502 Rocky Point Dr | Suite 600 | Tampa, Florida 33607 

 

HYPERLINK "http://www.oracle.com/"<image008.jpg>

 

<image009.jpg>

 

From: Sam Kanter HYPERLINK "mailto:skanter123@..."skanter123@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:47 PM
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

One can throw a heavy blanket over the piano, but that's not a very good solution. 😉

Sam

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(212) 684-3304

 

*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)


On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond HYPERLINK "mailto:mikeb44683@..."mikeb44683@... [disklavier] <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier.  I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano.  A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less.  Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument.  I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over.  I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh.  The physics won't allow it.  Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.

 


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From: "HYPERLINK "mailto:rightnightboy@..."rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 

I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .

 

One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!

 





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From: 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 6:49 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

I think a lot of people have missed the main use of a Disklavier to learn on, especially if like me you can’t read music and can watch the keys of one hand playing and change the tempo and key.  That is a bigger feature than I think a lot of people consider when buying one.  I mean I went into my local dealers shop, bought a G2B, and he just mentioned off the cuff, oh hang on this is a player piano but didn’t say a lot about it at all.  Acted like it was a minor feature.  Dunno why I mean when you consider even if it is the old system it is still very good technology and can be used for serious use.  Maybe it’s just most clients who come in to buy a player piano just want it for show-off or because they can’t play themselves, just saying that’s my take on it LOL.

 

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎11‎ ‎January‎ ‎2016 ‎23‎:‎43
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com

 

  

That’s a pretty wide spectrum of “noise” that you’ve described there. Between a silent concert hall with a symphony orchestra performing… and a house full of kids with their noise, a TV, the phone ringing etc — there’s a lot of room between those two extremes.

 

While I enjoy my DKV as an actual piano most of the time (you know, actually playing it) and sometimes putting on a performance from some of those excellent PianoSoft Plus Audio CDs, a great use I’ve found is DKV radio. Turn that on to a channel like “Sue Downs Mix Tape”, and you’ll feel like you’re in a genuine cocktail bar. Fantastic for when you have a few friends over — it’s a totally different vibe than having the usual background music, and it’s great.

 

This, of course, is without going into the merits (or lack thereof) of background music… which is something that doesn’t need to be around all the time, but there’s certainly a time and place for it.

 

…..HK

 

 

On Jan 11, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Spencer Chase HYPERLINK "mailto:lists@..."lists@... [disklavier] <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

i completely agree with this. i listen only at performance levels. if i am listening to music i am listening to music.

it is amazing how rare this is, most people have some sort of noise all the time, TV, games, phone and music and some time even a combination of them. i must be from another planet.

On 1/11/2016 2:55 PM, Skanter123 HYPERLINK "mailto:skanter123@..."skanter123@... [disklavier] wrote:

  

I think the idea of using a DKV for "background music " (a concept I generally abhor anyway) will not work unless the space is very large.  Use the digital piano and play at the volume level that is appropriate.

 

I like to use the DKV to -listen- to performances, as if there were a live musician playing.

YMMV

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Dennis Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:dennis.baldwin@..."dennis.baldwin@... [disklavier] <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Well it may be coming to that….  :>)

 

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From: Sam Kanter HYPERLINK "mailto:skanter123@gmail.com"skanter123@... [disklavier] [mailto:disklavier@...m] 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:47 PM
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

One can throw a heavy blanket over the piano, but that's not a very good solution. 😉

Sam

HYPERLINK "http://www.keyboardcollective.com/"www.keyboardcollective.com

(212) 684-3304

 

*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)


On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:48 PM, james bond HYPERLINK "mailto:mikeb44683@yahoo.com"mikeb44683@... [disklavier] <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

I have a 2008 Mark IV Yamaha Baby Grand Disklavier.  I'm sure that you have already taken into consideration the physics of a piano.  A piano can only create sound at a its acoustical/physical minimum and no less.  Just as an unmuted trumpet or practically any other instrument.  I can reduce the sound volume to the inclusion of the mute pedal yet in terms of its capability to continue to produce sound it still fills the room to the point of making it difficult to carry a conversation over.  I have been told multiple times by desk clerks at hotel lobbys that they are at their wits-end as to how to reduce the volume of their piano and I simply laugh.  The physics won't allow it.  Again, I'm guessing that you've already taken this into consideration.

 


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From: "HYPERLINK "mailto:rightnightboy@hotmail.com"rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com"disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I need your collective help on a problem with my Yamaha Disklavier

 

  

Hi, Im not the expert here (there are a few very good ones ! ) so I would guess that your piano is an E3 and I think it doesn't make a difference which file you download for E3 or for the dkc-850. I have an upright retrofitted with the dc-850 and yes in many cases the piano is too loud... So many say have the piano "voiced" (which I would eventually do) and that should help much... Otherwise I find that on the DKC-850 the lowest volume acceptable without muting is 6 ; from 7 to 10 the piano is mutes and many notes dont play. 

I'm on a mac and I use some software also to remap and change the velocity on the fly so that works pretty well also. But I kind of think that a perfect soft piano sound, where one can quietly chat beside the piano is not reachable... (Im not an expert) it is not an amplifier that you can turn up or down .

 

One other thing i find that files that are stored on the DKV (in the FromToPc section or on a usb stick) are playing better with less notes skipped in lower volume.. If anyone can comment on this I would appreciate !!!

 

 

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
21220 92nd Place W., Edmonds, WA 98020
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spencer@..."Spencer@...
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spencer@..."Spencer@...
HYPERLINK "mailto:Spencer@mcn.org"Spencer@...
HYPERLINK "http://www.spencerserolls.com/"http://www.spencerserolls.com
HYPERLINK "http://www.poodlex.com/"http://www.poodlex.com
(425) 791-0309
(707) 223-8212