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Re: Star Wars

2001-09-02 by midi.magic@ic24.net

Hi PianoBench

That,s what I thought in the end.  Still, it sounds so good that I 
will have to poke the volume bytes. Not being midi it will take a 
while. Still all I have to do is take them all down by the same 
amount and hope they don't change half way through.

Midi Magic


--- In disklavier@y..., PianoBench@a... wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> In a message dated 9/2/01 11:53:04 AM, midi.magic@i... writes:
> 
> << I tried to play the PianoSoft-Plus disk Star Wars number 
00502000 on 
> my Clavinova CVP 107.
> The Backings worked fine but no Piano!!!!...>>
> 
> I am not sure exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but I 
believe that 
> it boils down to this: Thus far, Yamaha Corporation of America has 
published 
> all of its Disklavier floppy-disk software in a format that is 
playable on 
> all models of Disklavier that have been sold in the US. This means 
that these 
> performances have been recorded in E-SEQ format (rather than SMF) 
and have 
> been published on double-density disks (rather than high-density 
disks).
> 
> There are older Disklaviers out there that did not have a built-in 
tone 
> generator and whose owners subsequently added an external one, such 
as a 
> TG-100 or MU50. Many of those older Disklaviers will play piano 
tracks on 
> both the piano and the external tone generator unless something is 
done to 
> mute the sound of the piano tracks on the tone generator.
> 
> I believe that many Yamaha Disklavier disks have been released over 
the years 
> with a volume message (controller 7) that sets the volume of the 
piano tracks 
> to 0. This message is ignored by the older Disklaviers but observed 
by the 
> tone generators. Therefore, these disks play just fine on the older 
> instruments: the piano parts play on the piano and the other parts 
play on 
> the tone generator.
> 
> More recent model Disklaviers with the built-in tone generators 
have been 
> engineered to respond to the volume message for the piano part but 
have been 
> specially programmed to set the volume of the piano part to 100 
when the MIDI 
> message says to set it to 0. In other words, the newer Disklaviers 
with the 
> internal tone generators also play these disks as intended.
> 
> Your message suggests that the issue is not the volume message but 
a system 
> exclusive message. I am not familiar with this technique, but I 
presume that 
> it is designed to address the same issue.
> 
> Although these Disklavier disks are technically compatible with the 
Clavinova 
> CVP instruments (i.e. E-SEQ format, DD disks, et cetera), they were 
probably 
> not intended to be played on them.
> 
> <<The piano part is now there but the backings drown it out, so I 
will 
> have to rebalance it. >>
> 
> Because these disks were mastered on the Disklavier, the balances 
of the 
> piano part relative to the accompaniment tracks will be different.
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench

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