Rhodes Chroma Polaris

back in July last year --Paul rumored about making/selling replacement switch panels-- (post #708) . i was hoping to hear an update on the progress of this noble effort.
this would be a real superhero move. kind of like saving an animal from extiction. sorry to be a pest

-----Original message-----

From: steven <wasteking1@...>
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 12:41:11 GMT+00:00
Subject: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels

 

back in July last year --Paul rumored about making/selling replacement switch panels-- (post #708) . i was hoping to hear an update on the progress of this noble effort.
this would be a real superhero move. kind of like saving an animal from extiction. sorry to be a pest

> From: steven
>
> back in July last year --Paul rumored about making/selling
> replacement switch panels-- (post #708) . i was hoping to
> hear an update on the progress of this noble effort. this
> would be a real superhero move. kind of like saving an animal
> from extiction. sorry to be a pest

You're not a pest, I just got frustrated with the effort. But I'll give it
another try. I have two Polarises with bum panels, too.

I found a few places that could do the job within easy driving distance (Los
Angeles area), so I could work with them in person, but none of them got
back to me with quotes. Then, I found that none of the export filters in
Visio 2000, which is what I drew the artwork in, produced usable output.
However, yesterday I obtained a copy of Visio 2003 which lets me export each
layer as a 500dpi TIFF, so that problem is solved. I'll try to find some
time over the next couple of weeks to look for suppliers again.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

Paul,


Nelson Nameplate does 10 unit prototypes with a 24 hour quote turnaround. Looks like they could do the project justice.with a few updated printing options.

http://www.nelsonusa.com/quote-request-form/

James

--- On Tue, 4/5/11, Paul D. DeRocco <pderocco@...> wrote:

From: Paul D. DeRocco <pderocco@...>
Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 9:53 PM

 

> From: steven
>
> back in July last year --Paul rumored about making/selling
> replacement switch panels-- (post #708) . i was hoping to
> hear an update on the progress of this noble effort. this
> would be a real superhero move. kind of like saving an animal
> from extiction. sorry to be a pest

You're not a pest, I just got frustrated with the effort. But I'll give it
another try. I have two Polarises with bum panels, too.

I found a few places that could do the job within easy driving distance (Los
Angeles area), so I could work with them in person, but none of them got
back to me with quotes. Then, I found that none of the export filters in
Visio 2000, which is what I drew the artwork in, produced usable output.
However, yesterday I obtained a copy of Visio 2003 which lets me export each
layer as a 500dpi TIFF, so that problem is solved. I'll try to find some
time over the next couple of weeks to look for suppliers again.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

> From: James
>
> Nelson Nameplate does 10 unit prototypes with a 24 hour quote
> turnaround. Looks like they could do the project justice.with
> a few updated printing options.
>
> http://www.nelsonusa.com/quote-request-form/

That's one of the companies I visited, spent an hour with, was reasonably
impressed by, and asked for a quote. I heard nothing back. I'll try them
again.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

-----Original message-----

From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...>
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 16:53:34 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels

 

> From: James
>
> Nelson Nameplate does 10 unit prototypes with a 24 hour quote
> turnaround. Looks like they could do the project justice.with
> a few updated printing options.
>
> http://www.nelsonusa.com/quote-request-form/

That's one of the companies I visited, spent an hour with, was reasonably
impressed by, and asked for a quote. I heard nothing back. I'll try them
again.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

> From: James Lonano
>
> Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a
> per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely
> executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is
> worth the money!

Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
I ought to order.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

Hi Paul,

When it gets closer to a reality, you can set the whole system up at groupbuy.com - This is how Andrew Jury and Jed Jorgensen handled their Polysix replacement mainboard project over in the Polysix group and it worked really well. I ended up buying 10 of these PCBS because as more people signed on the unit cost kept dropping and as we ordered more the price would drop again... :)

I completely agree with James - My Polaris still has a fully functional membrane panel, but I know the Synth Reaper awaits this classic unless I can arrange to have a backup membrane panel standing by. If such a part were to cost under $250 that would be a certain purchase for me, but I understand that low volume runs could mean it costing more than that.

While I am posting - I take it that the replacement design will use ribbons with a plastic formulation that is less prone to cracking with age? I have Roland synths from the 80s and 90s that use these kind of connectors and none of them have aged appreciably so surely the original issue is specific to the Polaris and its choice of ribbon connector supplier?

Anyhow you have my thanks and appreciation for taking the time and trouble to look into kicking off this project!

Cheers,

Tony

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "James Lonano" <fl_799@...> wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is worth the money!
>
>
> Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT&T
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...>
> To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 16:53:34 GMT+00:00
> Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels
>
> > From: James
> >
> > Nelson Nameplate does 10 unit prototypes with a 24 hour quote
> > turnaround. Looks like they could do the project justice.with
> > a few updated printing options.
> >
> > http://www.nelsonusa.com/quote-request-form/
>
> That's one of the companies I visited, spent an hour with, was reasonably
> impressed by, and asked for a quote. I heard nothing back. I'll try them
> again.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>

Paul,

Count me in for one set for sure and a second set if the price is reasonable. I have two Polari, one with a working membrane and one without.

Kris

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "syntegrator" <tony@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> When it gets closer to a reality, you can set the whole system up at groupbuy.com - This is how Andrew Jury and Jed Jorgensen handled their Polysix replacement mainboard project over in the Polysix group and it worked really well. I ended up buying 10 of these PCBS because as more people signed on the unit cost kept dropping and as we ordered more the price would drop again... :)
>
> I completely agree with James - My Polaris still has a fully functional membrane panel, but I know the Synth Reaper awaits this classic unless I can arrange to have a backup membrane panel standing by. If such a part were to cost under $250 that would be a certain purchase for me, but I understand that low volume runs could mean it costing more than that.
>
> While I am posting - I take it that the replacement design will use ribbons with a plastic formulation that is less prone to cracking with age? I have Roland synths from the 80s and 90s that use these kind of connectors and none of them have aged appreciably so surely the original issue is specific to the Polaris and its choice of ribbon connector supplier?
>
> Anyhow you have my thanks and appreciation for taking the time and trouble to look into kicking off this project!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
>
> --- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "James Lonano" <fl_799@> wrote:
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is worth the money!
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT&T
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@>
> > To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 16:53:34 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels
> >
> > > From: James
> > >
> > > Nelson Nameplate does 10 unit prototypes with a 24 hour quote
> > > turnaround. Looks like they could do the project justice.with
> > > a few updated printing options.
> > >
> > > http://www.nelsonusa.com/quote-request-form/
> >
> > That's one of the companies I visited, spent an hour with, was reasonably
> > impressed by, and asked for a quote. I heard nothing back. I'll try them
> > again.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> > Paul mailto:pderocco@
> >
>

> From: syntegrator
>
> When it gets closer to a reality, you can set the whole
> system up at groupbuy.com - This is how Andrew Jury and Jed
> Jorgensen handled their Polysix replacement mainboard project
> over in the Polysix group and it worked really well. I ended
> up buying 10 of these PCBS because as more people signed on
> the unit cost kept dropping and as we ordered more the price
> would drop again... :)

I think I prefer to buy a bunch (minimum 25, perhaps 50) on spec, and just
sell them on eBay, since I'll have to be individually package them and
reship them.

> I completely agree with James - My Polaris still has a fully
> functional membrane panel, but I know the Synth Reaper awaits
> this classic unless I can arrange to have a backup membrane
> panel standing by. If such a part were to cost under $250
> that would be a certain purchase for me, but I understand
> that low volume runs could mean it costing more than that.

I doubt they'll cost that much, but that's not based on any actual quotes.

> While I am posting - I take it that the replacement design
> will use ribbons with a plastic formulation that is less
> prone to cracking with age? I have Roland synths from the 80s
> and 90s that use these kind of connectors and none of them
> have aged appreciably so surely the original issue is
> specific to the Polaris and its choice of ribbon connector supplier?

I have no expertise in plastics or chemistry, but my experience is that
membrane switches (other than the top surface) are normally made out of
polyester (Mylar), and this has a pretty much unlimited lifetime. For
instance, the original Chroma membrane panels have exhibited no such
failures. The Polaris panels failed because they were either made out of
something else (exactly what that may be is lost in the files of Fender of
Japan), or because of some interaction between the green masking and the
plastic. I intend to leave the tails unmasked (since silver oxide is
harmless), and to make sure that whoever makes these doesn't use anything
nonstandard. That's about all I can do.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

There is reasonable risk here (especially for Paul) but every 'pledge' brings our group closer to keeping these great synths going for a good long while! I'll vote with my contribution towards the project to secure a set or 2! The groupbuy.com also looks like a winner too.

Mine is working good for the time being but I look forward to the day when I can re-solder the ribbon connectors back on the board where they belong. I bet most panels don't many more repairs left in them.

Chime in now Polaris owners, destiny calls!

James

--- On Wed, 4/6/11, ktfiz <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: ktfiz <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [chromapolaris] Re: replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 4:25 PM

 

Paul,

Count me in for one set for sure and a second set if the price is reasonable. I have two Polari, one with a working membrane and one without.

Kris

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "syntegrator" <tony@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> When it gets closer to a reality, you can set the whole system up at groupbuy.com - This is how Andrew Jury and Jed Jorgensen handled their Polysix replacement mainboard project over in the Polysix group and it worked really well. I ended up buying 10 of these PCBS because as more people signed on the unit cost kept dropping and as we ordered more the price would drop again... :)
>
> I completely agree with James - My Polaris still has a fully functional membrane panel, but I know the Synth Reaper awaits this classic unless I can arrange to have a backup membrane panel standing by. If such a part were to cost under $250 that would be a certain purchase for me, but I understand that low volume runs could mean it costing more than that.
>
> While I am posting - I take it that the replacement design will use ribbons with a plastic formulation that is less prone to cracking with age? I have Roland synths from the 80s and 90s that use these kind of connectors and none of them have aged appreciably so surely the original issue is specific to the Polaris and its choice of ribbon connector supplier?
>
> Anyhow you have my thanks and appreciation for taking the time and trouble to look into kicking off this project!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
>
> --- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "James Lonano" <fl_799@> wrote:
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is worth the money!
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Motorola ATRIXâ„¢ 4G on AT&T
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@>
> > To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 16:53:34 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels
> >
> > > From: James
> > >
> > > Nelson Nameplate does 10 unit prototypes with a 24 hour quote
> > > turnaround. Looks like they could do the project justice.with
> > > a few updated printing options.
> > >
> > > http://www.nelsonusa.com/quote-request-form/
> >
> > That's one of the companies I visited, spent an hour with, was reasonably
> > impressed by, and asked for a quote. I heard nothing back. I'll try them
> > again.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> > Paul mailto:pderocco@
> >
>

I've been lurking on the group since I acquired a Polaris II a few months ago and undertook restoring it. My fix isn't going great, but I haven't completely given up hope. (I had to completely disassemble it and clean it completely with Q-Tips and denatured alcohol. Now, aside from needing to finish fixing the ribbon and connectors, there is no output and I need to rebuild the output jacks —they were pretty chewed up.) Anyway I would definitely be interested in this and if the group-buy was properly secure. I would likely buy 2, maybe more if we can get the bulk price down enough. One way or another I'm going to get a working Polaris. ;-)

C. Puffer / @digitallofi

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote:
>
> > From: James Lonano
> >
> > Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a
> > per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely
> > executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is
> > worth the money!
>
> Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
> is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
> I ought to order.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>

Hi Paul,

> I think I prefer to buy a bunch (minimum 25, perhaps 50) on spec,
> and just sell them on eBay, since I'll have to be individually
> package them and reship them.

Your preference runs the show here - I just wanted to make the option known on the off-chance a groupbuy hadn't been considered.

> I doubt they'll cost that much, but that's not based on any actual
> quotes.

Sure thing - I put that figure up as the amount where I would start to dither over buying a replacement panel. If the price was under $200 I would definitely order one. If it was under $150 I would buy two as extra insurance... If the replacement panel could be produced for under $100 I would order 3-5 of them to stockpile for future repair opportunities.

> I have no expertise in plastics or chemistry, but my experience is
> that membrane switches (other than the top surface) are normally
> made out of polyester (Mylar), and this has a pretty much unlimited
> lifetime.

DX-7, JX-10, JX-8P and others here are just fine with their membrane switches and plastic ribbon harnesses- If treated with respect and kept out of direct sunlight (UV) these should last as long as the rest of the instrument... But as we all know, they don't on Polaris.

> The Polaris panels failed because they were either made out of
> something else (exactly what that may be is lost in the files of
> Fender of Japan), or because of some interaction between the green
> masking and the plastic.

Aha. Very plausible theory regarding the green masking - I'm not plastics expert but it certainly makes sense to me.

> I intend to leave the tails unmasked (since silver oxide is
> harmless), and to make sure that whoever makes these doesn't use
> anything nonstandard. That's about all I can do.

Great news. Thanks again for all your efforts on this front!

Tony

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote:
>
> > From: syntegrator
> >
> > When it gets closer to a reality, you can set the whole
> > system up at groupbuy.com - This is how Andrew Jury and Jed
> > Jorgensen handled their Polysix replacement mainboard project
> > over in the Polysix group and it worked really well. I ended
> > up buying 10 of these PCBS because as more people signed on
> > the unit cost kept dropping and as we ordered more the price
> > would drop again... :)
>
> I think I prefer to buy a bunch (minimum 25, perhaps 50) on spec, and just
> sell them on eBay, since I'll have to be individually package them and
> reship them.
>
> > I completely agree with James - My Polaris still has a fully
> > functional membrane panel, but I know the Synth Reaper awaits
> > this classic unless I can arrange to have a backup membrane
> > panel standing by. If such a part were to cost under $250
> > that would be a certain purchase for me, but I understand
> > that low volume runs could mean it costing more than that.
>
> I doubt they'll cost that much, but that's not based on any actual quotes.
>
> > While I am posting - I take it that the replacement design
> > will use ribbons with a plastic formulation that is less
> > prone to cracking with age? I have Roland synths from the 80s
> > and 90s that use these kind of connectors and none of them
> > have aged appreciably so surely the original issue is
> > specific to the Polaris and its choice of ribbon connector supplier?
>
> I have no expertise in plastics or chemistry, but my experience is that
> membrane switches (other than the top surface) are normally made out of
> polyester (Mylar), and this has a pretty much unlimited lifetime. For
> instance, the original Chroma membrane panels have exhibited no such
> failures. The Polaris panels failed because they were either made out of
> something else (exactly what that may be is lost in the files of Fender of
> Japan), or because of some interaction between the green masking and the
> plastic. I intend to leave the tails unmasked (since silver oxide is
> harmless), and to make sure that whoever makes these doesn't use anything
> nonstandard. That's about all I can do.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>

Count me in, maybe even for two.

Cord

On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:

>> From: syntegrator
>>
>> When it gets closer to a reality, you can set the whole
>> system up at groupbuy.com - This is how Andrew Jury and Jed
>> Jorgensen handled their Polysix replacement mainboard project
>> over in the Polysix group and it worked really well. I ended
>> up buying 10 of these PCBS because as more people signed on
>> the unit cost kept dropping and as we ordered more the price
>> would drop again... :)
>
> I think I prefer to buy a bunch (minimum 25, perhaps 50) on spec,
> and just
> sell them on eBay, since I'll have to be individually package them and
> reship them.
>
>> I completely agree with James - My Polaris still has a fully
>> functional membrane panel, but I know the Synth Reaper awaits
>> this classic unless I can arrange to have a backup membrane
>> panel standing by. If such a part were to cost under $250
>> that would be a certain purchase for me, but I understand
>> that low volume runs could mean it costing more than that.
>
> I doubt they'll cost that much, but that's not based on any actual
> quotes.
>
>> While I am posting - I take it that the replacement design
>> will use ribbons with a plastic formulation that is less
>> prone to cracking with age? I have Roland synths from the 80s
>> and 90s that use these kind of connectors and none of them
>> have aged appreciably so surely the original issue is
>> specific to the Polaris and its choice of ribbon connector supplier?
>
> I have no expertise in plastics or chemistry, but my experience is
> that
> membrane switches (other than the top surface) are normally made
> out of
> polyester (Mylar), and this has a pretty much unlimited lifetime. For
> instance, the original Chroma membrane panels have exhibited no such
> failures. The Polaris panels failed because they were either made
> out of
> something else (exactly what that may be is lost in the files of
> Fender of
> Japan), or because of some interaction between the green masking
> and the
> plastic. I intend to leave the tails unmasked (since silver oxide is
> harmless), and to make sure that whoever makes these doesn't use
> anything
> nonstandard. That's about all I can do.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>

I am absolutely interested...so keep me posted. I'll be among the first group in line. ;)

Thanks.
~Ryan

To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
From: pderocco@...
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:00:01 -0700
Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels

 

Count me in as well. -Jeff

To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
From: ryanfreer77@...
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 20:22:35 -0500
Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels

 

Please count me in for at least one set. I've had a Polaris II on the shelf for about a year, waiting for a repair to one of the membranes.

Thanks for your efforts

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:00 PM, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote:

>> From: James Lonano
>>
>> Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a
>> per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely
>> executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is
>> worth the money!
>
> Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
> is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
> I ought to order.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Please let all of us know when we go in on the panels.  I will also contribute to the cause.  I need the Polaris back in working order.

From: matthew meixner <ccstickleback@...>
Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] Re: replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 7, 2011, 9:53 AM

 

Please let all of us know when we go in on the panels.  I will also contribute to the cause.  I need the Polaris back in working order.

> From: F Aitken
>
> Forgive my lack of knowledge with the internals of the
> Polaris. The left side of the membrane panel does not work,
> i.e. button presses don't do anything, though the sliders on
> that side work. I opened the Polaris some time ago and
> noticed the cracked ribbon cable that is the source of the
> problem. Is this part of the membrane panel, or is it a
> connection between 2 circuit boards beneath the panel? I
> can't quite remember how it looked in there and I don't have
> the service manual. Anyway the buttons do function on the
> right side, so I'm assuming the left side would work, if the
> ribbon cable was replaced or fixed. I would be interested in
> a membrane panel, if it would fix my current problem. Thanks! Frank

That's the tail of the membrane panel, and that's what always fails. I think
the left panel is more likely to fail, because of the tight bend in the
tail, but I've got a bad right panel tail too.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

Hi to Everybody,

Hi to Everybody,

I have a Chroma Polaris and I need To replace if possible the two Membrane Panels May someone help me ???

Thanks To all the people of the list.

My email is sukhoy27@...

Mario

Italy

--- On Thu, 4/7/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:

From: el macaco <elmacaco@...>
Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 7, 2011, 10:52 PM

 

Hi all,

 

I have a polaris and I would be in for a set of replacement membrane panels provided they are made of tougher stuff than the originals.

 

Ed

From: gnw <atonal@...>
To: "chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com" <chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "<chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com>" <chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 10:47:59 PM
Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] replacement membrane panels

 

Please count me in for at least one set. I've had a Polaris II on the shelf for about a year, waiting for a repair to one of the membranes.

Thanks for your efforts

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:00 PM, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote:

>> From: James Lonano
>>
>> Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a
>> per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely
>> executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is
>> worth the money!
>
> Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
> is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
> I ought to order.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

Hi Paul,

On 6 apr 2011, at 22:00, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:

> Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
> is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
> I ought to order.

Thanks for the effort! I would order a set.

Ben

Well, it looks like there is plenty of interest. And I have now nice
accurate artwork for all the graphics and laser cuts, in a form that any fab
should be able to use. So next week, I'll make the rounds again, and try to
get someone to make up a bunch of these. Hopefully in a month or so, I can
have them available.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote:

>
> Well, it looks like there is plenty of interest. And I have now nice
> accurate artwork for all the graphics and laser cuts, in a form that any fab
> should be able to use. So next week, I'll make the rounds again, and try to
> get someone to make up a bunch of these. Hopefully in a month or so, I can
> have them available.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>

Great to hear. Everyone might want to check out my video showing the use of a material to laminate strength back into brittle ribbons also on the sounddoctorin youtube channel. -Bob

I will do that. I think you have the best fix to date! The rest of the membrane will turn to dust before your fix!

BTW, did you get those polaris keys ok?

James

--- On Sun, 4/10/11, Robert Weigel <sounddoctorin@...> wrote:

From: Robert Weigel <sounddoctorin@...>
Subject: [chromapolaris] Re: replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 6:47 AM

 

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote:
>
> Well, it looks like there is plenty of interest. And I have now nice
> accurate artwork for all the graphics and laser cuts, in a form that any fab
> should be able to use. So next week, I'll make the rounds again, and try to
> get someone to make up a bunch of these. Hopefully in a month or so, I can
> have them available.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>
Great to hear. Everyone might want to check out my video showing the use of a material to laminate strength back into brittle ribbons also on the sounddoctorin youtube channel. -Bob

I will definitely buy a set of both membrane
panels if you can accomplish this task. Thanks,
Kevin K

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote:
>
> > From: James Lonano
> >
> > Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a
> > per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely
> > executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is
> > worth the money!
>
> Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
> is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
> I ought to order.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>

I would be interested in a couple if the new panels are around $100...

Doug

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "buzdalton" <buzdalton@...> wrote:
>
> I will definitely buy a set of both membrane
> panels if you can accomplish this task. Thanks,
> Kevin K
>
> --- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@> wrote:
> >
> > > From: James Lonano
> > >
> > > Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a
> > > per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely
> > > executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is
> > > worth the money!
> >
> > Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
> > is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
> > I ought to order.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> > Paul mailto:pderocco@
> >
>

Count me in for a set, I am working on a fix now for bad ribbons!

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote:
>
> > From: James Lonano
> >
> > Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a
> > per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely
> > executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is
> > worth the money!
>
> Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
> is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
> I ought to order.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>

Count me in too..

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "buzdalton" <buzdalton@...> wrote:
>
> I will definitely buy a set of both membrane
> panels if you can accomplish this task. Thanks,
> Kevin K
>
> --- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@> wrote:
> >
> > > From: James Lonano
> > >
> > > Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a
> > > per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely
> > > executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is
> > > worth the money!
> >
> > Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
> > is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
> > I ought to order.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> > Paul mailto:pderocco@
> >
>

Hi.
If this was to go on a group-buy, what price differences would we be looking at?

How much will a production cost difference of 25 vs 250 be?

I bought 10 polysix PCB's as well. It was a group-buy that surprised everyone I think (as most group-buys do).

I have 4 polaris at the moment, and several friends with broken polaris that I did planned to repair.
I will perhaps buy one set if we talk about closer to 100 bucks. But will most likely repair them all myself as I have done many times before. If this will however go to a group buy with a good discount for quantity then count me in for 10 sets right away.

Please, please reconsider the group-buy option!! :)
You will sell far far more (4-10 times more I would estimate)
It will be some work shipping out everything. But it's only one time you do that. More people will buy several sets. And far more people with working polaris will buy a backup, or even replace the membranes right away before the old one is broken. And in the end it's much more efficient then selling one by one on ebay...
And you should of course take whatever profit you find acceptable for the job. You can also then buy far bigger stock for less money to sell on ebay to whoever missed it after the group-buy.

Whatever you choose this is a great project for people not being able to repair the panels themselves. The polaris deserves the best!

regards

Hi Sullik , I agree with You, that not many musician are able to open a Polaris and start soldering or remove Membrane Panels.

From: sukhoy27@... <sukhoy27@...>
Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] Re: replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 8:22 PM

 

Hi Sullik , I agree with You, that not many musician are able to open a Polaris and start soldering or remove Membrane Panels.

Regards

Mario

--- On Tue, 5/10/11, sullik1 <sullik1@...> wrote:

From: sullik1 <sullik1@...>
Subject: [chromapolaris] Re: replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 12:23 AM

 

Hi.
If this was to go on a group-buy, what price differences would we be looking at?

How much will a production cost difference of 25 vs 250 be?

I bought 10 polysix PCB's as well. It was a group-buy that surprised everyone I think (as most group-buys do).

I have 4 polaris at the moment, and several friends with broken polaris that I did planned to repair.
I will perhaps buy one set if we talk about closer to 100 bucks. But will most likely repair them all myself as I have done many times before. If this will however go to a group buy with a good discount for quantity then count me in for 10 sets right away.

Please, please reconsider the group-buy option!! :)
You will sell far far more (4-10 times more I would estimate)
It will be some work shipping out everything. But it's only one time you do that. More people will buy several sets. And far more people with working polaris will buy a backup, or even replace the membranes right away before the old one is broken. And in the end it's much more efficient then selling one by one on ebay...
And you should of course take whatever profit you find acceptable for the job. You can also then buy far bigger stock for less money to sell on ebay to whoever missed it after the group-buy.

Whatever you choose this is a great project for people not being able to repair the panels themselves. The polaris deserves the best!

regards

Wow, great, it is possible to see a photo so to learn how to fix ? please ?

From: sukhoy27@... <sukhoy27@...>
Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] Re: replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 9:40 AM

 

Wow, great, it is possible to see a photo so to learn how to fix ? please ?

Thanks

MArio

--- On Tue, 5/10/11, James <fl_799@...> wrote:

From: James <fl_799@...>
Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] Re: replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 3:13 AM

 

I fixed my brothers recently acquired Polaris in 15 minutes the other day! His left side ribbon's had an odd curve into the connector at almost 90 degree's. A small 1/2 trim was only needed to get this one going. Wish fixing mine was that easy!

 

I'm still game on fresh membranes!

 

James

--- On Mon, 5/9/11, sukhoy27@... <sukhoy27@...> wrote:

From: sukhoy27@... <sukhoy27@...>
Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] Re: replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 8:22 PM

 

Hi Sullik , I agree with You, that not many musician are able to open a Polaris and start soldering or remove Membrane Panels.

Regards

Mario

--- On Tue, 5/10/11, sullik1 <sullik1@...> wrote:

From: sullik1 <sullik1@...>
Subject: [chromapolaris] Re: replacement membrane panels
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 12:23 AM

 

Hi.
If this was to go on a group-buy, what price differences would we be looking at?

How much will a production cost difference of 25 vs 250 be?

I bought 10 polysix PCB's as well. It was a group-buy that surprised everyone I think (as most group-buys do).

I have 4 polaris at the moment, and several friends with broken polaris that I did planned to repair.
I will perhaps buy one set if we talk about closer to 100 bucks. But will most likely repair them all myself as I have done many times before. If this will however go to a group buy with a good discount for quantity then count me in for 10 sets right away.

Please, please reconsider the group-buy option!! :)
You will sell far far more (4-10 times more I would estimate)
It will be some work shipping out everything. But it's only one time you do that. More people will buy several sets. And far more people with working polaris will buy a backup, or even replace the membranes right away before the old one is broken. And in the end it's much more efficient then selling one by one on ebay...
And you should of course take whatever profit you find acceptable for the job. You can also then buy far bigger stock for less money to sell on ebay to whoever missed it after the group-buy.

Whatever you choose this is a great project for people not being able to repair the panels themselves. The polaris deserves the best!

regards

A new polaris owner here, count me in for a pair too!
Thanks,
Conor

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote:
>
> > From: James Lonano
> >
> > Would you be willing to take a straw poll on quantity and a
> > per unit cost? I estimate a pair of working panels nicely
> > executed is worth $200 to me. I think keeping these alive is
> > worth the money!
>
> Sure. I would hope to be able to sell a pair for about that price. If anyone
> is interested, just say so here, so that I can get a feel for how many sets
> I ought to order.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
>

HI MY NAME IS JIM DUGAS ! AM A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP BUT ICAN 't
remember HOW TO FIND IT ON MY NEW COMPUTEr-MY OWN POLARIS WAS DAMAGED
AND NO one in my TOWN WILL TOUCH IT! I AM QUITE INTERSTED IN THE
WHOLE UNIT Depending on price of course- FOR IWILL USE YOURS TO REPAIR
MINE-I PRETTY MIUCH KNOW HOW to FIX MINE- BUT NEED THE PARTS-WOULD
LIKE WHOLE UNIT SO INEVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PARTs/STUPID REPAIRMEN
AGAIN -ALSO IF U ARE A vinTage synth GUY- hAVE SOME NEAT Stuff-Also DO
U HAVE DATA TAPES-MY EMAIADDRESS _IS ON THIS EMAIL and my PHONE no is
412-969-1011

On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> So I'm getting impatient waiting for replacement membrane panels for my
> Chroma Polaris, and I wonder if anyone would like a parts unit or to take it
> and wait themselves.
>
> The ribbons tabs were all salvaged except the three conductor one, and that
> one seems too far gone for repair at this point. the keys are perfect, one
> end cheek is loose due to a missing bolt, and I have a spare panel circuit
> board with extra sliders, LED's and other parts.
>
> If anyone is interested please make an offer, the CEM chips alone are fairly
> valuable but I don't like the idea of selling them and junking the rest, but
> you could if you want.
>
> Pictures will be available to the interested soon.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ed

PGH PA -BACK TO U -When was LAST TIME POLARIS PLAYED ANYstuff ? MINEIS
LIK DAMNNEW MEMBDANE SWITCHES FINE_GOT LIGHTNING STRIKE POWER SURGE
MELTED BIG GREEN WIRE BANDS TOP TOBOTTOM-_ARETHOSE OK CAUSE ITHINK
THAT MAY BE MIN THING I NEED?HOW MUCH ?HOW FARWHOLE UNIT_WANT SPARES

On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Yes I am a vintage synth guy, do you have stuff to trade?
>
> Where are you located?
>
> Let me know.
>
>
>> To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
>> CC: xkss33@...; elmacaco@...
>> From: xkss33@...
>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:57:04 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] Parts Chroma Polaris for Sale
>>
>> HI MY NAME IS JIM DUGAS ! AM A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP BUT ICAN 't
>> remember HOW TO FIND IT ON MY NEW COMPUTEr-MY OWN POLARIS WAS DAMAGED
>> AND NO one in my TOWN WILL TOUCH IT! I AM QUITE INTERSTED IN THE
>> WHOLE UNIT Depending on price of course- FOR IWILL USE YOURS TO REPAIR
>> MINE-I PRETTY MIUCH KNOW HOW to FIX MINE- BUT NEED THE PARTS-WOULD
>> LIKE WHOLE UNIT SO INEVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PARTs/STUPID REPAIRMEN
>> AGAIN -ALSO IF U ARE A vinTage synth GUY- hAVE SOME NEAT Stuff-Also DO
>> U HAVE DATA TAPES-MY EMAIADDRESS _IS ON THIS EMAIL and my PHONE no is
>> 412-969-1011
>>
>> On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello everybody,
>> >
>> > So I'm getting impatient waiting for replacement membrane panels for my
>> > Chroma Polaris, and I wonder if anyone would like a parts unit or to
>> > take it
>> > and wait themselves.
>> >
>> > The ribbons tabs were all salvaged except the three conductor one, and
>> > that
>> > one seems too far gone for repair at this point. the keys are perfect,
>> > one
>> > end cheek is loose due to a missing bolt, and I have a spare panel
>> > circuit
>> > board with extra sliders, LED's and other parts.
>> >
>> > If anyone is interested please make an offer, the CEM chips alone are
>> > fairly
>> > valuable but I don't like the idea of selling them and junking the rest,
>> > but
>> > you could if you want.
>> >
>> > Pictures will be available to the interested soon.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Ed
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>

SORRY SLOW TYPIST JIM

On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
> PGH PA -BACK TO U -When was LAST TIME POLARIS PLAYED ANYstuff ? MINEIS
> LIK DAMNNEW MEMBDANE SWITCHES FINE_GOT LIGHTNING STRIKE POWER SURGE
> MELTED BIG GREEN WIRE BANDS TOP TOBOTTOM-_ARETHOSE OK CAUSE ITHINK
> THAT MAY BE MIN THING I NEED?HOW MUCH ?HOW FARWHOLE UNIT_WANT SPARES
>
> On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Yes I am a vintage synth guy, do you have stuff to trade?
>>
>> Where are you located?
>>
>> Let me know.
>>
>>
>>> To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
>>> CC: xkss33@...; elmacaco@...
>>> From: xkss33@...
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:57:04 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] Parts Chroma Polaris for Sale
>>>
>>> HI MY NAME IS JIM DUGAS ! AM A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP BUT ICAN 't
>>> remember HOW TO FIND IT ON MY NEW COMPUTEr-MY OWN POLARIS WAS DAMAGED
>>> AND NO one in my TOWN WILL TOUCH IT! I AM QUITE INTERSTED IN THE
>>> WHOLE UNIT Depending on price of course- FOR IWILL USE YOURS TO REPAIR
>>> MINE-I PRETTY MIUCH KNOW HOW to FIX MINE- BUT NEED THE PARTS-WOULD
>>> LIKE WHOLE UNIT SO INEVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PARTs/STUPID REPAIRMEN
>>> AGAIN -ALSO IF U ARE A vinTage synth GUY- hAVE SOME NEAT Stuff-Also DO
>>> U HAVE DATA TAPES-MY EMAIADDRESS _IS ON THIS EMAIL and my PHONE no is
>>> 412-969-1011
>>>
>>> On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello everybody,
>>> >
>>> > So I'm getting impatient waiting for replacement membrane panels for
>>> > my
>>> > Chroma Polaris, and I wonder if anyone would like a parts unit or to
>>> > take it
>>> > and wait themselves.
>>> >
>>> > The ribbons tabs were all salvaged except the three conductor one, and
>>> > that
>>> > one seems too far gone for repair at this point. the keys are perfect,
>>> > one
>>> > end cheek is loose due to a missing bolt, and I have a spare panel
>>> > circuit
>>> > board with extra sliders, LED's and other parts.
>>> >
>>> > If anyone is interested please make an offer, the CEM chips alone are
>>> > fairly
>>> > valuable but I don't like the idea of selling them and junking the
>>> > rest,
>>> > but
>>> > you could if you want.
>>> >
>>> > Pictures will be available to the interested soon.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

NO EFFECT STUFF COMPOSER TYPE _Synths and RACKS

On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
> SORRY SLOW TYPIST JIM
>
> On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
>> PGH PA -BACK TO U -When was LAST TIME POLARIS PLAYED ANYstuff ? MINEIS
>> LIK DAMNNEW MEMBDANE SWITCHES FINE_GOT LIGHTNING STRIKE POWER SURGE
>> MELTED BIG GREEN WIRE BANDS TOP TOBOTTOM-_ARETHOSE OK CAUSE ITHINK
>> THAT MAY BE MIN THING I NEED?HOW MUCH ?HOW FARWHOLE UNIT_WANT SPARES
>>
>> On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Yes I am a vintage synth guy, do you have stuff to trade?
>>>
>>> Where are you located?
>>>
>>> Let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>>> To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
>>>> CC: xkss33@...; elmacaco@...
>>>> From: xkss33@...
>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:57:04 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] Parts Chroma Polaris for Sale
>>>>
>>>> HI MY NAME IS JIM DUGAS ! AM A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP BUT ICAN 't
>>>> remember HOW TO FIND IT ON MY NEW COMPUTEr-MY OWN POLARIS WAS DAMAGED
>>>> AND NO one in my TOWN WILL TOUCH IT! I AM QUITE INTERSTED IN THE
>>>> WHOLE UNIT Depending on price of course- FOR IWILL USE YOURS TO REPAIR
>>>> MINE-I PRETTY MIUCH KNOW HOW to FIX MINE- BUT NEED THE PARTS-WOULD
>>>> LIKE WHOLE UNIT SO INEVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PARTs/STUPID REPAIRMEN
>>>> AGAIN -ALSO IF U ARE A vinTage synth GUY- hAVE SOME NEAT Stuff-Also DO
>>>> U HAVE DATA TAPES-MY EMAIADDRESS _IS ON THIS EMAIL and my PHONE no is
>>>> 412-969-1011
>>>>
>>>> On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hello everybody,
>>>> >
>>>> > So I'm getting impatient waiting for replacement membrane panels for
>>>> > my
>>>> > Chroma Polaris, and I wonder if anyone would like a parts unit or to
>>>> > take it
>>>> > and wait themselves.
>>>> >
>>>> > The ribbons tabs were all salvaged except the three conductor one,
>>>> > and
>>>> > that
>>>> > one seems too far gone for repair at this point. the keys are
>>>> > perfect,
>>>> > one
>>>> > end cheek is loose due to a missing bolt, and I have a spare panel
>>>> > circuit
>>>> > board with extra sliders, LED's and other parts.
>>>> >
>>>> > If anyone is interested please make an offer, the CEM chips alone are
>>>> > fairly
>>>> > valuable but I don't like the idea of selling them and junking the
>>>> > rest,
>>>> > but
>>>> > you could if you want.
>>>> >
>>>> > Pictures will be available to the interested soon.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

> From: el macaco
>
> So I'm getting impatient waiting for replacement membrane
> panels for my Chroma Polaris, and I wonder if anyone would
> like a parts unit or to take it and wait themselves.

I'd like to apologize for the delay on replacement panels. It's hard for me
to find time to work on it. However, I received one quote a while ago, which
I felt was too high--I would have had to sell the panels for $300 a pair,
instead of the hoped for $200. At the moment, I'm waiting for two more
quotes. At this point, I think I'll accept the lowest quote whatever it is,
even if the price bumps up. But I expect to get the quotes within the week.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

HEY WHATS YOUR FIRST NAME MAN IA AM BAD NUFF TYPIST ANY HOW EL ZORRO
IS CLOSE AS I CAN GET

On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
> NO EFFECT STUFF COMPOSER TYPE _Synths and RACKS
>
> On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
>> SORRY SLOW TYPIST JIM
>>
>> On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
>>> PGH PA -BACK TO U -When was LAST TIME POLARIS PLAYED ANYstuff ? MINEIS
>>> LIK DAMNNEW MEMBDANE SWITCHES FINE_GOT LIGHTNING STRIKE POWER SURGE
>>> MELTED BIG GREEN WIRE BANDS TOP TOBOTTOM-_ARETHOSE OK CAUSE ITHINK
>>> THAT MAY BE MIN THING I NEED?HOW MUCH ?HOW FARWHOLE UNIT_WANT SPARES
>>>
>>> On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Yes I am a vintage synth guy, do you have stuff to trade?
>>>>
>>>> Where are you located?
>>>>
>>>> Let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> CC: xkss33@...; elmacaco@...
>>>>> From: xkss33@...
>>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:57:04 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] Parts Chroma Polaris for Sale
>>>>>
>>>>> HI MY NAME IS JIM DUGAS ! AM A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP BUT ICAN 't
>>>>> remember HOW TO FIND IT ON MY NEW COMPUTEr-MY OWN POLARIS WAS DAMAGED
>>>>> AND NO one in my TOWN WILL TOUCH IT! I AM QUITE INTERSTED IN THE
>>>>> WHOLE UNIT Depending on price of course- FOR IWILL USE YOURS TO REPAIR
>>>>> MINE-I PRETTY MIUCH KNOW HOW to FIX MINE- BUT NEED THE PARTS-WOULD
>>>>> LIKE WHOLE UNIT SO INEVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PARTs/STUPID REPAIRMEN
>>>>> AGAIN -ALSO IF U ARE A vinTage synth GUY- hAVE SOME NEAT Stuff-Also DO
>>>>> U HAVE DATA TAPES-MY EMAIADDRESS _IS ON THIS EMAIL and my PHONE no is
>>>>> 412-969-1011
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hello everybody,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So I'm getting impatient waiting for replacement membrane panels for
>>>>> > my
>>>>> > Chroma Polaris, and I wonder if anyone would like a parts unit or to
>>>>> > take it
>>>>> > and wait themselves.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The ribbons tabs were all salvaged except the three conductor one,
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > one seems too far gone for repair at this point. the keys are
>>>>> > perfect,
>>>>> > one
>>>>> > end cheek is loose due to a missing bolt, and I have a spare panel
>>>>> > circuit
>>>>> > board with extra sliders, LED's and other parts.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If anyone is interested please make an offer, the CEM chips alone
>>>>> > are
>>>>> > fairly
>>>>> > valuable but I don't like the idea of selling them and junking the
>>>>> > rest,
>>>>> > but
>>>>> > you could if you want.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Pictures will be available to the interested soon.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

HEY PAUL IF U ARE ONLINE TOTHIS _HOW DO I GET BACKIN GROU pMY NEWPC LOST INFO

On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
> HEY WHATS YOUR FIRST NAME MAN IA AM BAD NUFF TYPIST ANY HOW EL ZORRO
> IS CLOSE AS I CAN GET
>
> On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
>> NO EFFECT STUFF COMPOSER TYPE _Synths and RACKS
>>
>> On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
>>> SORRY SLOW TYPIST JIM
>>>
>>> On 9/28/11, james Dugas <xkss33@...> wrote:
>>>> PGH PA -BACK TO U -When was LAST TIME POLARIS PLAYED ANYstuff ? MINEIS
>>>> LIK DAMNNEW MEMBDANE SWITCHES FINE_GOT LIGHTNING STRIKE POWER SURGE
>>>> MELTED BIG GREEN WIRE BANDS TOP TOBOTTOM-_ARETHOSE OK CAUSE ITHINK
>>>> THAT MAY BE MIN THING I NEED?HOW MUCH ?HOW FARWHOLE UNIT_WANT SPARES
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>>>> On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
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>>>>> Hello,
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>>>>> Yes I am a vintage synth guy, do you have stuff to trade?
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>>>>> Where are you located?
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>>>>> Let me know.
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>>>>>> To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> CC: xkss33@...; elmacaco@...
>>>>>> From: xkss33@...
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:57:04 -0400
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] Parts Chroma Polaris for Sale
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HI MY NAME IS JIM DUGAS ! AM A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP BUT ICAN 't
>>>>>> remember HOW TO FIND IT ON MY NEW COMPUTEr-MY OWN POLARIS WAS DAMAGED
>>>>>> AND NO one in my TOWN WILL TOUCH IT! I AM QUITE INTERSTED IN THE
>>>>>> WHOLE UNIT Depending on price of course- FOR IWILL USE YOURS TO
>>>>>> REPAIR
>>>>>> MINE-I PRETTY MIUCH KNOW HOW to FIX MINE- BUT NEED THE PARTS-WOULD
>>>>>> LIKE WHOLE UNIT SO INEVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PARTs/STUPID REPAIRMEN
>>>>>> AGAIN -ALSO IF U ARE A vinTage synth GUY- hAVE SOME NEAT Stuff-Also
>>>>>> DO
>>>>>> U HAVE DATA TAPES-MY EMAIADDRESS _IS ON THIS EMAIL and my PHONE no is
>>>>>> 412-969-1011
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/28/11, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
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>>>>>> > Hello everybody,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So I'm getting impatient waiting for replacement membrane panels
>>>>>> > for
>>>>>> > my
>>>>>> > Chroma Polaris, and I wonder if anyone would like a parts unit or
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > take it
>>>>>> > and wait themselves.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The ribbons tabs were all salvaged except the three conductor one,
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > that
>>>>>> > one seems too far gone for repair at this point. the keys are
>>>>>> > perfect,
>>>>>> > one
>>>>>> > end cheek is loose due to a missing bolt, and I have a spare panel
>>>>>> > circuit
>>>>>> > board with extra sliders, LED's and other parts.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If anyone is interested please make an offer, the CEM chips alone
>>>>>> > are
>>>>>> > fairly
>>>>>> > valuable but I don't like the idea of selling them and junking the
>>>>>> > rest,
>>>>>> > but
>>>>>> > you could if you want.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Pictures will be available to the interested soon.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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> From: el macaco
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> Thanks man!
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> No need for apologizing, a project like that has to compete
> with real life concerns.
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> 300 doesn't sound that bad considering a more reliable front
> panel, but hopefully you will get a cheaper quote.
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> Any idea what the lead time on the production could be?
> Weeks / Months? Are you going to take pre orders?

The quote I tentatively rejected said four weeks. I have no idea if that's
typical, but I'm sure it won't be much less than that.

There are probably cheaper ways to do this, ordering stuff from China
perhaps, but I've decided not to go that route. If I order fifty, and they
show up with the wrong color, or of obviously poor quality, then I've got
more of a problem than I can deal with. So I'm limiting myself to L.A. area
companies, so that I can go hold their hand as they import the artwork and
set things up.

Then, of course, there's packaging. I've decided to ship them sandwiched
between two pieces of hardboard or Masonite, so that's fairly cheap, and
only requires a trip to Home Depot.

If I were to accept a quote today, I could probably get everything turned
over to the company in a week, then they'd take whatever time they'd take,
then it would take another week to package them and put them on eBay.

I'm not bothering with pre-orders. I have enough cash that I can buy a pile
of them on spec.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...

ED I STILL WANT THE DAMN POLARIS -JIM DUGAS CALL ME FRIDAY - OK
412-969-1011OR ANY SCEWED UP POLARIS MAKIND SOUND give Me Achance TO
CHECK WHAT I GOT HERE-LIKE KURZWEIL STUFF? JIM DUGAS

On 9/29/11, Ryan Freer <ryanfreer77@...> wrote:
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> Paul,
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> It's good to hear this project is still underway...and I remain on board for
> buying two replacement panels. If necessary, I'd be willing to pay more for
> the higher quality parts.
> Will $200 to $300 actually be the final cost of a pair?
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> ~Ryan Freer
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> To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com; pderocco@...
> From: elmacaco@...
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:39:33 -0400
> Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] Parts Chroma Polaris for Sale
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> buy it now cost, the 3 % paypal fees will eat a little chunk of your
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>> To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
>> From: pderocco@...
>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:33:18 -0700
>> Subject: RE: [chromapolaris] Parts Chroma Polaris for Sale
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>> > From: el macaco
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>> > Thanks man!
>> >
>> > No need for apologizing, a project like that has to compete
>> > with real life concerns.
>> >
>> > 300 doesn't sound that bad considering a more reliable front
>> > panel, but hopefully you will get a cheaper quote.
>> >
>> > Any idea what the lead time on the production could be?
>> > Weeks / Months? Are you going to take pre orders?
>>
>> The quote I tentatively rejected said four weeks. I have no idea if that's
>> typical, but I'm sure it won't be much less than that.
>>
>> There are probably cheaper ways to do this, ordering stuff from China
>> perhaps, but I've decided not to go that route. If I order fifty, and they
>> show up with the wrong color, or of obviously poor quality, then I've got
>> more of a problem than I can deal with. So I'm limiting myself to L.A.
>> area
>> companies, so that I can go hold their hand as they import the artwork and
>> set things up.
>>
>> Then, of course, there's packaging. I've decided to ship them sandwiched
>> between two pieces of hardboard or Masonite, so that's fairly cheap, and
>> only requires a trip to Home Depot.
>>
>> If I were to accept a quote today, I could probably get everything turned
>> over to the company in a week, then they'd take whatever time they'd take,
>> then it would take another week to package them and put them on eBay.
>>
>> I'm not bothering with pre-orders. I have enough cash that I can buy a
>> pile
>> of them on spec.
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>> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
>> Paul mailto:pderocco@...
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