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Pedal for the polaris

Pedal for the polaris

2019-05-26 by karmakater@...

Hit there, does anyone know which of the currently available pedals is best for the polaris? i have an M-Audio EX-P which has a rather small effective radius,
any suggestions? thanks harald


RE: [chromapolaris] Pedal for the polaris

2019-05-28 by Paul D. DeRocco

> From: karmakater@...
>
> Hit there, does anyone know which of the currently available
> pedals is best for the polaris? i have an M-Audio EX-P which
> has a rather small effective radius,
> any suggestions? thanks harald

From what I gather online, the EX-P has a 65K pot and a stereo TRS (tip-ring-sleeve) plug, where the tip-to-ring resistance goes from about 10K down to zero (heel to toe), and the tip-to-sleeve goes from about 55K to 65K. In other words, the pedal only moves the pot through a fraction of its range. There's no way to get this to work with the Polaris.

A Yamaha pedal has a 50K pot, and it uses the entire range of the pot. You could get this to work if you make an adapter to connect the ring contact from the pedal to the tip contact in the Polaris, and then tack a 200K resistor in parallel with R25 on the left panel board. This is because the Polaris expects a resistance between tip and sleeve that goes from zero in the heel position to 100K in the toe position. If you only give it 50K, the voltage will only swing about half as far, so you need to cut the pull-up resistor in half, too.

You could do something similar with a Roland EV-5, but it's 10K, so you'd need around a 22K resistor, and you have that awful pot on the side of the pedal that prevents it from going all the way to zero if you don't remember to turn it fully CCW when you set it up.

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RE: [chromapolaris] Pedal for the polaris

2019-05-30 by karmakater@...

thanks for the detailed and insightful clarification, paul.

there seems to be only the original pedal that can do 0 - 100k or i'm tinkering with your suggestion, right?
I think I'll try Yamaha FC-7.

a technician here in berlin could do that, i'm not that solder guy. he recently made my polaris fit again,
the keypad contacts are clean now and the main volume control is back again,
the baby sounds really fresh again. i also notice a difference in the envelope curve,
it's not so limp anymore, is more direct (Rev 11).
he has also repositioned your audio noise tip with the earthing of the headphone cables, noise is nearly eliminated!
i have the feeling to have a new synth ;) at this point thank you for your valuable hints!

btw, are there any vector files from the panels?
would be quite some work to vector that from the old panels.
i like the primal panel design (https://www.shotroom.com/i/1963/Pb0Fb) and would like to have it optically adapted with adhesive foil. just would interest me.

Re: Pedal for the polaris

2019-07-30 by karmakater@...

in the meantime I changed the pot in the M-Audio EX-P to a 100k and adjusted the mechanical control and did a LF A8. it works quite smooth now although i don't know if i use the whole range, but I think so. feels like.
nevertheless, playing the polaris with a pedal is like making her moan ;)

and i wonder if theres some original fender pedals out there..