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Getting started with making circuits.

Getting started with making circuits.

2008-09-10 by dschoo

I'm a smart guy, but I'm having trouble locating decent resources on
learning what I need to create an existing circuit such as:

http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs58_lfo.html

or eventually design my own. I would love to start off by creating
simple electrical devices--elementary at best--and move up.

I have a background in Computer Science, but they never got into
parallel resistance for some reason. =)

Of course I'll need to learn about basic electricity as I have been
trying to already, but any better resources suggested are much
appreciated. Anything on applied circuit creation would be great, too.

Again, I'm just trying to get started and am being overwhelmed by
information without great starting points.

To think this all started by wondering how I could create my own
simple CV device.

Thanks so much if anyone can help out.

-Dan

Re: Getting started with making circuits.

2008-09-10 by Jeff Laity

You can purchase the parts from a company like Mouser. You can also go
to a site like Bridechamber, which offers parts kits or complete kits
(in MOTM format) for these modules. I don't see the Utility LFO on its
own but here is the Dual LFO:

http://www.bridechamber.com/bridechamber.com/C%20Utility%20LFO.html

You can also check out Synthesis Technology for partial kits. (PCBs,
panels, parts, but you still need to order components like caps and
resistors from Mouser)

http://www.synthtech.com/motm390.html
https://www.synthtech.com/testcart/

I have a few BOMs with mouser part numbers on my site:

http://www.jefflaity.com/MOTM/

Hope this helps, -jl
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On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:40 PM, dschoo wrote:

> I'm a smart guy, but I'm having trouble locating decent resources on
> learning what I need to create an existing circuit such as:
>
> http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs58_lfo.html
>
> or eventually design my own. I would love to start off by creating
> simple electrical devices--elementary at best--and move up.
>
> I have a background in Computer Science, but they never got into
> parallel resistance for some reason. =)
>
> Of course I'll need to learn about basic electricity as I have been
> trying to already, but any better resources suggested are much
> appreciated. Anything on applied circuit creation would be great, too.
>
> Again, I'm just trying to get started and am being overwhelmed by
> information without great starting points.
>
> To think this all started by wondering how I could create my own
> simple CV device.
>
> Thanks so much if anyone can help out.
>
> -Dan
>
>
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>
> The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


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Re: Getting started with making circuits.

2008-09-11 by thomas white

bridechamber also sells motm parts kits now too. You have to buy the motm and BC ones to get all the parts (minus pots n jacks).

Jeff Laity wrote:
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> You can purchase the parts from a company like Mouser. You can also go
> to a site like Bridechamber, which offers parts kits or complete kits
> (in MOTM format) for these modules. I don't see the Utility LFO on its
> own but here is the Dual LFO:
> http://www.bridechamber.com/bridechamber.com/C%20Utility%20LFO.html
> You can also check out Synthesis Technology for partial kits. (PCBs,
> panels, parts, but you still need to order components like caps and
> resistors from Mouser)
> http://www.synthtech.com/motm390.html
> https://www.synthtech.com/testcart/
> I have a few BOMs with mouser part numbers on my site:
> http://www.jefflaity.com/MOTM/
> Hope this helps, -jl
> On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:40 PM, dschoo wrote:
>> I'm a smart guy, but I'm having trouble locating decent resources on
>> learning what I need to create an existing circuit such as:
>>
>> http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs58_lfo.html
>>
>> or eventually design my own. I would love to start off by creating
>> simple electrical devices--elementary at best--and move up.
>>
>> I have a background in Computer Science, but they never got into
>> parallel resistance for some reason. =)
>>
>> Of course I'll need to learn about basic electricity as I have been
>> trying to already, but any better resources suggested are much
>> appreciated. Anything on applied circuit creation would be great, too.
>>
>> Again, I'm just trying to get started and am being overwhelmed by
>> information without great starting points.
>>
>> To think this all started by wondering how I could create my own
>> simple CV device.
>>
>> Thanks so much if anyone can help out.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Getting started with making circuits.

2008-09-11 by Richard Brewster

Hi Dan,

Welcome. I recommend going here and buying Bernie Hutchins' Musical
Engineers Handbook and Builder's Guide and Preferred Circuit
Collection. This has the basics of music synthesis circuits, and also
will teach you some basic electronics. Some of the parts used are out
of date, but the principles are the same as they were in the seventies.
You can search wider for more on electronics.

http://electronotes.netfirms.com/

Richard Brewster
http://www.pugix.com

dschoo wrote:
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> I'm a smart guy, but I'm having trouble locating decent resources on
> learning what I need to create an existing circuit such as:
>
> http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs58_lfo.html
>
> or eventually design my own. I would love to start off by creating
> simple electrical devices--elementary at best--and move up.
>
> I have a background in Computer Science, but they never got into
> parallel resistance for some reason. =)
>
> Of course I'll need to learn about basic electricity as I have been
> trying to already, but any better resources suggested are much
> appreciated. Anything on applied circuit creation would be great, too.
>
> Again, I'm just trying to get started and am being overwhelmed by
> information without great starting points.
>
> To think this all started by wondering how I could create my own
> simple CV device.
>
> Thanks so much if anyone can help out.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Getting started with making circuits.

2008-09-11 by Russ in Minneapolis

I'm in the same situation - software developer by day, wanna-be synth
diy-er by night. I've been searching for both general resource on
circuits, as well as resource which focus on synth (or audio effect)
circuits. I've yet to find anything that works for me. If you do find
anything good, I would love to hear about them.

Russ

Re: Getting started with making circuits.

2008-09-11 by Scott Deyo

I started w/ the Forrest Mims III books from Radio Shack, though they
probably don't have them there anymore. You could find them on eBay or
Amazon I'm sure.

Cheers,
Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
http://www.bridechamber.com
Jealous Edison Record Kompany
http://www.jealousedison.com
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On Sep 10, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Russ in Minneapolis wrote:

> I'm in the same situation - software developer by day, wanna-be synth
> diy-er by night. I've been searching for both general resource on
> circuits, as well as resource which focus on synth (or audio effect)
> circuits. I've yet to find anything that works for me. If you do find
> anything good, I would love to hear about them.
>
> Russ
>
>
>
>

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Re: Getting started with making circuits.

2008-09-11 by Bauke van der Wal

i'm a computer scientist by day, and an experimental - with th
emphasys on "mental" - musician with interest in synth DIY at night.

the opamp en filter cookbook by jung (i think) are very heavy to get
into, but i learned a lot by the small books from R.A.Penfold
(Practical Electronic Music Projects ISBN 0859343634) and A Flind -
Pratcical Oscillator Circuits ISBN 0859343936. both books are about 6
or 7 dollars and there are a lot more in both series.

a book which also grabbed my attention is one i both when i got my
first DIY kit from PAIA electronics. the book is called Electronic
Projects for Musicians and it's written by Craig Anderton. the
writing style is clear and it has a lot of basic electronic info. the
circuits are mainly guitar FX, but who says you can't put a synth or
oscillatorsignal in there ;-) US ISBN 0825695023

http://www.paia.com/proddetail.asp?prod=EPFM&cat=14

but as the others said too, the best thing to do is to "buy a kit"
and build that one with one or two books on the side to start
understanding what you're doing. basic analog electronic knowledge
will come to you, but it won't be overnight.

i have the luck of being a computer scientist with analog as well as
digital electronics in my background, and debugging faulty pcb's has
been easier because of that.

hope this helps.

cheers,
bauke
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> I started w/ the Forrest Mims III books from Radio Shack, though they
> probably don't have them there anymore. You could find them on eBay or
> Amazon I'm sure.
>
> Cheers,
> Scott Deyo
> The Bridechamber
> contact@...
> http://www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> http://www.jealousedison.com
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Russ in Minneapolis wrote:
>
>> I'm in the same situation - software developer by day, wanna-be synth
>> diy-er by night. I've been searching for both general resource on
>> circuits, as well as resource which focus on synth (or audio effect)
>> circuits. I've yet to find anything that works for me. If you do
>> find
>> anything good, I would love to hear about them.
>>
>> Russ

--
ps: i'm fasing out the darkambient account because of too much spam.
please use this addres from now on: bauke.vanderwal@...

Re: Getting started with making circuits.

2008-09-11 by data2action

i've been recommending Nic Collins "Handmade Electronic Music: The Art
of Hardware Hacking" to anyone just starting in electronics with an
interest in music. it starts from the very beginning, and takes you
up through basic oscillators and amplifiers based on minimal cmos
components (similar to things like Kens SuperPsycho lfo). Very
hands-on and pragmatic, very little theory but lots of musical context
(of the experimental/bug music variety).

i just finished up a workshop for absolute newbies, using this as one
of the textbooks... folks had a lot of success.


bbob
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "dschoo" <danschuman@...> wrote:
>
> I'm a smart guy, but I'm having trouble locating decent resources on
> learning what I need to create an existing circuit such as:
>
> http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs58_lfo.html
>
> or eventually design my own. I would love to start off by creating
> simple electrical devices--elementary at best--and move up.
>
> I have a background in Computer Science, but they never got into
> parallel resistance for some reason. =)
>
> Of course I'll need to learn about basic electricity as I have been
> trying to already, but any better resources suggested are much
> appreciated. Anything on applied circuit creation would be great, too.
>
> Again, I'm just trying to get started and am being overwhelmed by
> information without great starting points.
>
> To think this all started by wondering how I could create my own
> simple CV device.
>
> Thanks so much if anyone can help out.
>
> -Dan
>

Re: Getting started with making circuits.

2008-09-13 by ghostdickenterprises

you can actually download a pdf of forrest mims books on the radio
shack website its a support/manual for a the beginning electronics kits

if you cant find it ill hunt down a link later
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> I started w/ the Forrest Mims III books from Radio Shack, though they
> probably don't have them there anymore. You could find them on eBay or
> Amazon I'm sure.
>
> Cheers,
> Scott Deyo
> The Bridechamber
> contact@...
> http://www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> http://www.jealousedison.com
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Russ in Minneapolis wrote:
>
> > I'm in the same situation - software developer by day, wanna-be synth
> > diy-er by night. I've been searching for both general resource on
> > circuits, as well as resource which focus on synth (or audio effect)
> > circuits. I've yet to find anything that works for me. If you do find
> > anything good, I would love to hear about them.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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