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Utility LFO Problem

2008-08-05 by lexvortex

Hi,

I've just built my first CGS module, the utility LFO :) I finished
and powered it up and it worked fine. I then disconnected it and
cleaned it up in the back (used ties to hold the wires together and
used my roommates blow dryer to shrink some shrink wrap around the
LEDs leads) I then went and reconnected it to my system and LFO 1 no
longer works (LFO 2 still works fine). I've checked the wiring and
replaced the IC's but to no avail.

I implemented a range switch for both LFOs which does work. When I
now switch through the different setting for LFO 1 it affects the
output of LFO 1 but the LFO does not sweep through its range. What
could have went wrong, did the blow dryer destroy the LED and now the
circuit won't work (is the LED even necessary to make the circuit
work) or maybe the heat destroyed another component? The panel was
really hot from the heat of the blow dryer.

Any suggestions would be extremely helpful to me. I'm new to
building modules and don't know a lot about trouble shooting them.

Thank you,
Dave

Re: Utility LFO Problem

2008-08-05 by kwote uno

first off never heatshrink with a blowdryer. a heatshrink gun exists for a
reason. secondly when you heatshrink do it away from components. aim
specifically towards the shrink wrap and nothing else. what you should've
done is heatshrinked it first before solderin it up to the board. sorry to
hear this.

fortunately it is only your first build and not a major module. you're on
the right track. keep it up.
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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:18 PM, lexvortex <afonso_david@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've just built my first CGS module, the utility LFO :) I finished
> and powered it up and it worked fine. I then disconnected it and
> cleaned it up in the back (used ties to hold the wires together and
> used my roommates blow dryer to shrink some shrink wrap around the
> LEDs leads) I then went and reconnected it to my system and LFO 1 no
> longer works (LFO 2 still works fine). I've checked the wiring and
> replaced the IC's but to no avail.
>
> I implemented a range switch for both LFOs which does work. When I
> now switch through the different setting for LFO 1 it affects the
> output of LFO 1 but the LFO does not sweep through its range. What
> could have went wrong, did the blow dryer destroy the LED and now the
> circuit won't work (is the LED even necessary to make the circuit
> work) or maybe the heat destroyed another component? The panel was
> really hot from the heat of the blow dryer.
>
> Any suggestions would be extremely helpful to me. I'm new to
> building modules and don't know a lot about trouble shooting them.
>
> Thank you,
> Dave
>
>
>



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Re: Utility LFO Problem

2008-08-05 by Scott Deyo

The LED is not necessary to the module working. Is the cap OK? Make
sure the wires are all OK, too, especially Shape and Speed pot wires.

Zip ties... buy some zip ties.
: )

Cheers,
Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
http://www.bridechamber.com
Jealous Edison Record Kompany
http://www.jealousedison.com
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On Aug 4, 2008, at 8:18 PM, lexvortex wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've just built my first CGS module, the utility LFO :) I finished
> and powered it up and it worked fine. I then disconnected it and
> cleaned it up in the back (used ties to hold the wires together and
> used my roommates blow dryer to shrink some shrink wrap around the
> LEDs leads) I then went and reconnected it to my system and LFO 1 no
> longer works (LFO 2 still works fine). I've checked the wiring and
> replaced the IC's but to no avail.
>
> I implemented a range switch for both LFOs which does work. When I
> now switch through the different setting for LFO 1 it affects the
> output of LFO 1 but the LFO does not sweep through its range. What
> could have went wrong, did the blow dryer destroy the LED and now the
> circuit won't work (is the LED even necessary to make the circuit
> work) or maybe the heat destroyed another component? The panel was
> really hot from the heat of the blow dryer.
>
> Any suggestions would be extremely helpful to me. I'm new to
> building modules and don't know a lot about trouble shooting them.
>
> Thank you,
> Dave
>
>
>

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Re: Utility LFO Problem

2008-08-05 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

You have probably done some physical damage, such as lifting a solder pad,
or breaking a wire that you have somehow not noticed. And it probably
occured when you were tidying up wires. You may have even heat-shrinked over
a bad joint!

Ken
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>Hi,
>
> I've just built my first CGS module, the utility LFO :) I finished
>and powered it up and it worked fine. I then disconnected it and
>cleaned it up in the back (used ties to hold the wires together and
>used my roommates blow dryer to shrink some shrink wrap around the
>LEDs leads) I then went and reconnected it to my system and LFO 1 no
>longer works (LFO 2 still works fine). I've checked the wiring and
>replaced the IC's but to no avail.
>
> I implemented a range switch for both LFOs which does work. When I
>now switch through the different setting for LFO 1 it affects the
>output of LFO 1 but the LFO does not sweep through its range. What
>could have went wrong, did the blow dryer destroy the LED and now the
>circuit won't work (is the LED even necessary to make the circuit
>work) or maybe the heat destroyed another component? The panel was
>really hot from the heat of the blow dryer.
>
> Any suggestions would be extremely helpful to me. I'm new to
>building modules and don't know a lot about trouble shooting them.
>
>Thank you,
>Dave
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
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Re: Utility LFO Problem

2008-08-05 by lexvortex

Yep, you were right :) I fixed it and it works great!! I did break a
wire and it slipped my attention somehow (too much solder fumes).

Thanks for the help :)
Dave
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@... wrote:
>
> You have probably done some physical damage, such as lifting a
solder pad,
> or breaking a wire that you have somehow not noticed. And it probably
> occured when you were tidying up wires. You may have even
heat-shrinked over
> a bad joint!
>
> Ken
>
> >Hi,
> >
> > I've just built my first CGS module, the utility LFO :) I finished
> >and powered it up and it worked fine. I then disconnected it and
> >cleaned it up in the back (used ties to hold the wires together and
> >used my roommates blow dryer to shrink some shrink wrap around the
> >LEDs leads) I then went and reconnected it to my system and LFO 1 no
> >longer works (LFO 2 still works fine). I've checked the wiring and
> >replaced the IC's but to no avail.
> >
> > I implemented a range switch for both LFOs which does work. When I
> >now switch through the different setting for LFO 1 it affects the
> >output of LFO 1 but the LFO does not sweep through its range. What
> >could have went wrong, did the blow dryer destroy the LED and now the
> >circuit won't work (is the LED even necessary to make the circuit
> >work) or maybe the heat destroyed another component? The panel was
> >really hot from the heat of the blow dryer.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be extremely helpful to me. I'm new to
> >building modules and don't know a lot about trouble shooting them.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >Dave
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Ken Stone sasami@...
> Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.cgs.synth.net/>
> Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>
>

Re: Utility LFO Problem

2008-08-05 by Bauke van der Wal

and as Homer Simpson would say:

*rrhaaagghhhh* fuuumesszzzzzzz

:-) just wanted to say that this list is very helpful and i enjoy reading it.

cheers,
bauke
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> Yep, you were right :) I fixed it and it works great!! I did break a
> wire and it slipped my attention somehow (too much solder fumes).
>
> Thanks for the help :)
> Dave

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Re: Utility LFO Problem

2008-08-06 by Andre Majorel

On 2008-08-05 01:18 -0000, lexvortex wrote:
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> used my roommates blow dryer to shrink some shrink wrap around the
> LEDs leads)

Heat-shrink tubing is shrunk at a specific temperature. Too cold
and the shrinking may not be stable. Too hot and the tubing will
melt and split.

The recommended temperature varies (check the manufacturer's
documentation) but it's usually around 150 °C. A hair dryer
doesn't go that high, or so we hope !

A paint stripper is much hotter than the recommended temperature
but if you're careful not to leave it on for too long, it can do.

There are adjustable paint strippers but they tend to be much more
expensive. On the other hand, they may be more durable : my and
other people's experience suggest that cheap strippers last just a
few tens of hours.

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Re: Utility LFO Problem

2008-08-06 by Jeff Laity

On Aug 6, 2008, at 4:09 AM, Andre Majorel wrote:
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> On 2008-08-05 01:18 -0000, lexvortex wrote:
>
> > used my roommates blow dryer to shrink some shrink wrap around the
> > LEDs leads)
>
> Heat-shrink tubing is shrunk at a specific temperature. Too cold
> and the shrinking may not be stable. Too hot and the tubing will
> melt and split.
>
> The recommended temperature varies (check the manufacturer's
> documentation) but it's usually around 150 °C. A hair dryer
> doesn't go that high, or so we hope !
>
> A paint stripper is much hotter than the recommended temperature
> but if you're careful not to leave it on for too long, it can do.
>
> There are adjustable paint strippers but they tend to be much more
> expensive. On the other hand, they may be more durable : my and
> other people's experience suggest that cheap strippers last just a
> few tens of hours.
>
>

Soldering iron also works in a pinch.

Re: Utility LFO Problem

2008-08-07 by Todd Fletcher

I use a cigarette lighter. I'll put it on for about half a second or less. Works great, more even than a soldering iron. I used to use a desoldering iron with the sucker hooked up to the blower (if that makes sense).

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