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Re: New member
2008-06-12 by k5kip_1999
So did you try the VFX control?
I still need to package it better, into one sysex file.
I know how to do that now, just need to do it.
I also, need to write some kind of thing that will set the .txinterval back to 2.
You can do it manually tho and the VFX really needs to have it on 100 to work with out lots of midi sysex errors.
--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Steve Wahl wrote:
>
> Hello, everyone.
>
> I just found out about this group when k5kip mentioned getting editing
> a VFX going with it on the vfx group.
>
> I've had a BCR for a few years now. I've been mostly using it for
> remote control of a Panasonic DA7 digital mixer at church. (When I
> play up front and we don't have a dedicated sound guy to be in back, I
> set up my monitor to match the mains and I can tweak the levels from
> up front.)
That's a good use.
> However, I had no idea you could send sysex with it... Now that I've
> discovered this group, I have a ton of questions, and I'm sure they
> all could be answered by searching the archives. But I've already
> done a bit, and that's a real slow way to do things, and it doesn't
> foster communications anyway, so I'm going to ask a couple of
> questions off the bat.
>
> Pointers to existing messages, even of the "search for this subject"
> type, are as welcome as well as direct answers.
>
> 0. I don't see a lot of "getting started" info on the wiki. I could
> summarize answers I get to these into a beginners page on the wiki.
> Let me know if you think I should.
Yes - I think it would help a lot.
I am glad to help you on this.
I will try to get a "getting started" for BCmanager going for the wiki as well.
>
> 1. After my purchase of the BCR2000 (I think), Behringer announced the
> Mackie emulation mode for the BCF. But not for the BCR. Why? Does
> the BCF have more memory or something? I wanted more controls in
> less space, thus chose the BCR over the BCF; price probably also
> figured into the picture.
>
Yeah - I went that way for that reason also.
BCR2000 does a fantastic Mackie emulation!
In fact, I have just recreated a Mackie emulation for Live.
I think i put the most recent here, but I can't remember.
Try my bcr2000 page for the preset. It is designed for Live.
Some controls will be different depending on software.
I have complied a list of mackie commands. This list is not 100% confirmed.
However, most daws share a lot of common commands.
Faders, vpots, mutes, arms, solos, ch selects, vpot selects, transports, Jog and others...
I did not put the Fkeys into my preset, you could do that, if you need them.
Logic - may also need a sysex string handshake, to show connected, I know that Sonar does.
Let me know, I will get you the string, you can put it on a button and connect up.
What's different about my preset?
I put in acceleration on the faders, vpots and jog so that when you turn the knob slow it is slow and when you turn it fast the whole range can be gone thru quickly, the .resolution parameter.
I, also have knobs converted to rotary switches (outputting different notes (commands) depending on which direction you turn the knob) because the bcr did not have enough buttons and too many knobs. (I don't think any other presets are doing that, yet!)
> 4. Since I'm trying to move into using Logic as my DAW, what's the
> best method to use a BCR with it? I think I saw some software that
> runs on the mac and translates BCR to Mackie HUI or something (putting
> the LCD messages on the screen). Is there any reason to use such a
> thing once you know the "inside story?"
Yes - opus locus makes two product$, a mackie emulation and a mackie lcd emulation.
You won't need the mackie emulation, it actually translates the bcr2000 midi out put to mackie. I do the same thing with GenMce (free). However, you won't need either of these because the bcr works great with a native preset.
I made a movie on YouTube using my bcr as mackie with Live, it is on my site above.
You can start with my preset or Art's (there are others as well) and hack them to bits (pun intended) with bcmanager on your pc then send to to BCR.
You will need an LCD emulation to use these mackie preset effectively.
I suggest you play around with it a bit on the pc.
Then after you are used to what it does, get opus locus's LCD emulation, I think he wants $20 for it. It looks really nice too, I wish he had one for pc.
OR - write your own cross platform display for pc/mac and Linux. Sounds like you might be able to do this.
I wanted to do something like this and had considered Java to accomplish it. I wanted to make something free for all to use. The LCD emulation, basically, is parsing midi sysex coming out of the daw software.
However, I don't have the programming skills to accomplish this task.
I do have the source code for Huskervu, done in C#..
>
> I guess that's all I can think of for now. As long as I'm here,
> though, I'll add some relavent personal information:
>
> [Feel free to tune out now...]
>
> I'm a software engineer in my day job, mostly in networking /
> communications of some sort. I spent 10 years at a company whose
> specialty was serial ports, so I know about bits and bytes going over
> wires.
>
> (Midi is really just a serial port with different electrical
> characteristics, different baud rate than standard serial ports, and
> different driver requirements because it's much more sensitve to
> latency when compared to most anything else that uses a standard
> serial port.)
>
> I started out with midi around 1990, with an Ensoniq VFX and an Amiga
> running Bars & Pipes. Even wrote a VFX sysex librarian on the Amiga,
> but never released it.
>
> Besides controlling the mixer, I've used the BCR2000 to do sound
> effects for a play, using an LE version of Live if I remember right.
>
> Related equipment I have (in case somebody wants to suggest novel uses
> of the BCR that would apply to me): Ensoniq VFX and VFX-SD, Roland
I'd like to know if the my vfx preset works with the SD and what changes would need to be made to make it work better with the sd?
Or do we need separate preset.
Btw - y0u can load the .bc2 files into bcmanager now.
> JV-1080, Alesis D4, DrumKat EZ, Oberheim Drummer, Behringer DDX3216,
> M-audio Oxygen8 (1st version).
DrumKat (you a drummer?)
I bet you can do remote editors for
the drumKat, Oberheim Drummer, and the JV-1080 (as Royce said) as well s the D4.
The best way to tell, is to just try to look at the midi output from the device (in midiox - make sure that you are not filtering the sysex).
If you can see the sysex commands, you can capture the string using bcmanager, while assigning custom control to a knob or button!
I'll help any way I can.
Kip