...;/...Jeeee.....:((((
Really appretiate your explanation...but honestly I more confused....
OK. I found on ebay couple ZIP drives even with info that I can
hook'em to sampler via SCSI....but I am not sure,Should I ask
geezer about Amphenol 50 pin -25 pin cabel???
links to ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZIP-Plus-100-SCSI-
drive_W0QQitemZ300130059381QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3757QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ
rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
adaptor ????? :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-Adaptor-50HD-P-to-25-D-S-
NEW_W0QQitemZ120142865277QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr
dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-TO-PARALLEL-PORT-ADAPTOR-E138961-
NEW_W0QQitemZ120141857153QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr
dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
......thanx guys....but my head is like a throbbling gristle....It
seems I must learn about SCSI stuff.....
great forum/group, hats off guys:)
cheers
filip
--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les Lambert
<les_lmbrt@...> wrote:
>
> It's not that simple at first.
> There is a more common ext zip that is parallel port.
> Same 25pin connector. DOES NOT WORK WITH S1100. You
> need the SCSI one.
>
> Your Sampler has a 50pin Amphenol (SCSI 1 call that)
> The ext SCSI 100Mb zip drive has a 25pin dSub, like an
> old beige mac, (still SCSI 1)
> So the cable you need is 50pin Amphenol to 25pin dsub.
> The two connectors on the zip are the same I think,
> but one has ZIP on it, which is the input to the
> drive, the other is for continuation of the SCSI bus.
> (If you connect another item here, you turn the
> termination off)
>
> You select 5 and term on on the back of the zip, and
> if you plug the stuff up to the sampler, when you
> power up with a zip in the drive and you select hard
> disk, the zip drive will appear on the default ID of
> 5. Then you decide partition size, I match RAM size on
> mine, 3 x 32Mb for a zip. Then you FORMAT, make a cup
> of tea and then the disk is ready for saving samples
> to. I recommend some paperwork in advance, labelling
> each disk and having a book of what's where. Your
> choice, most people don't, and then have trouble
> finding stuff i suspect.
> After you have stuff on the disk, when you select hHD,
> you'll see the partitions and volumes like a fixed
> drive.
>
> There is another SCSI 50pin connector you get on jaz
> drives and some PCs that looks like an artists
> impression of the son of the first two connectors.
> This gets called SCSI 2 by lots of people. Same
> signals etc.
> All of the above is also called narrow SCSI
>
> After that it gets more complicated with faster wider
> systems which have been re-named at least once and
> there are a few different drive types on the same
> connector too, as well as identical types of drives
> with different connectors. There are some good
> articles on the web, you may ignore them for your
> current needs..
> The other major sampler manufacturers have all had to
> educate the musicians, so there are normally documents
> that <explain> what's going on. I found the
> Kurzweil.com support amterial to be the best, but the
> EMU stuff is good. The old mac manuals are good too.
> Welcome to SCSI
>
> --- filipovske <filipmail@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks so much folks;)
> >
> > But I am still confuse about type of SCSI cables
> > connections, i've
> > found one on ebay - 26 pin D port - is it telling
> > you anything????
> > All I need (except other pleasures...) is
> > confirmation - that ZIP
> > will work fine with SCSI.
> > and by hte way - is AKAI 'see' ZIP as a HD ??? and
> > how to connect
> > everything???
> >
> > sorry for my lame questions...... SCSI stuff is
> > quite new for
> > myself...
> >
> >
> > have a nice day gentelmans!
> >
> >
> >
> > filip
> >
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les
> > Lambert
> > <les_lmbrt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you want external zip100 SCSI, there are about
> > 6 a
> > > month on ebay.co.uk, sometimes with a decent stock
> > of
> > > media. The disks rarely go for more than £1 each
> > now
> > > that me and ganamor have stopped bidding against
> > each
> > > other to own the entire universe of zip.
> > > They're all over the UK and collection cuts costs
> > > dramatically if you shop local.
> > > My best deal ever was from a computer guy who must
> > > have thought very little of the ext drive biz in
> > > general and zip in particular. Only 100Mb, why
> > bother
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > If you are unable to source, I still have loads.
> > > However, the quest will strengthen your resolve
> > Luke.
> > >
> > > Doesn't your cousin Dave have any? <(:>{}
> > > --- "neal.gilmore" <neal.gilmore@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm not sure how easy it will be to find the
> > drives
> > > > you are looking
> > > > for outside of Ebay. I struggled to find any
> > SCSI
> > > > ZIp drives in any
> > > > of the second-hand computer shops here.
> > > >
> > > > In the end I bought two Syquest EZ230MB drives
> > and
> > > > one Syjet 1.5GB
> > > > drive (for my other sampler) very cheaply on
> > Ebay.
> > > > Iomega ZIP's I
> > > > have seen occasionally in the second-hand music
> > > > shops but the prices
> > > > are heavily inflated over Ebay. You could also
> > have
> > > > a look in the
> > > > adverts in Sound on Sound online. I paid about
> > £60
> > > > for the two EZ230
> > > > with about 13 cartridges thrown in on Ebay. The
> > > > Syjet would also
> > > > work with the S1100 but would be a waste of its
> > > > capacity. HAving
> > > > said that I paid £9 for it on Ebay and got 5
> > 1.5GB
> > > > cartridges for it
> > > > as well!
> > > >
> > > > Happy hunting
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "filipovske"
> > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > but Where I can buy (except ebay) that kind of
> > > > drives ???
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help ??? I am UK based.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > thx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > filip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "gribus88"
> > > > > <guido7@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
> > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "filipovske"
> > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > > > I use an Iomega 100mb external ZIPdrive,
> > watch
> > > > the cable !
> > > > > different connectors
> > > > > > on each side is what you need. Don't know
> > the
> > > > names for the
> > > > > connectors, but
> > > > > > they are still for sale in computershops.
> > > > > > good luck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello and thnx bro;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've found at last that SCSI ZIP drive is
> > > > actually most
> > > > > reasonable
> > > > > > > solution, but I need some help still...
> > > > > > > I have found on ebay :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > > > > > > from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SCSI zip drives, but I am not sure which
> > ones
> > > > is suitable for
> > > > > AKAI
> > > > > > > s1100 ???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would you mind to help me ???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > many thanx.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > nice communityby the way.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
> > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "bronxed01"
> > > > > > > <bronxed01@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i have the same problem. i use a SCSI
> > zip
> > > > drive. They work
> > > > > fine for
> > > > > > > > all saving functions. Just make sure not
> > to
> > > > get one larger
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > 100mb,
> > > > > > > > as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the
> > disk,
> > > > so there is not
> > > > > point
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a
> > good
> > > > choice too, but
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > maximum size useable with it is 500mb,
> > so
> > > > you'd need to find
> > > > > quite
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > old one. i think the cheapest solution
> > is
> > > > the zip drive, they
> > > > > last
> > > > > > > > very well, and zip disks are very easy
> > and
> > > > increasingly
> > > > > cheaper to
> > > > > > > buy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hope this is some help.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > "filipovske"
> > > > > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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Re: disk drive or zip or HD ??
2007-07-17 by filipovske