Akai S1000 / S1100 samplers

Hello Les,

Nice to see you are still writing a cryptic stream of consciousness  
madness like myself.

On 10 Dec 2012, at 10:52, Les wrote:

>
> Yes if you have access to an esi32, you can load any presets up to  
> 99, save as EIII and the S3200 will import load them.
> If you then load more presets into the esi and renumber them to be  
> within this 0-99 range, save as EIII, you can have the rest.
> This takes all day for any reasonable size of transfer, and is  
> tedious and error prone.
> Even without phone calls about your PPI or daytime TV or ebaY.
>
I wouldn't know about the S3200 but the ESI32 bit sounds  
correct,daytime sport radio gets me distracted.

>
> I might suggest paying a modest amount of euros to gain access the  
> collection being offered on a German website by KD6.
> Some of the manufacturers' collections there have grunged samples  
> too, the 808 and 909 at least.
> Some of the odder makes have pretty nasty samples anyway.
> I have fond memories of a Soundmaster88 recorded on a Nakamichi 550  
> that got my home demos started 30 some years ago.
> Also the Simmons SDSV onto the Pro Walkman with DolbyC is nicely  
> smoothed out.
> He, like me, has been collecting drum machine samples as wav for at  
> least 5 years.
> Unlike me he's got a front door you can knock on.
>
I take it by Nakamichi you mean tape I made my own CD-Rom for the  
ESI32,some wav's from web some of my own I'm afraid they are not  
grunged up but has a few old software drum sounds, then you can use  
the FX and resample at a lower rate to grunge it up.
>
> Personally I went over to the S5000 format because of the wav-ness  
> and the consequent ease of PC archiving.
> On a PC you can label everything properly and print lists and other  
> little librarian style nonsense.
> The S3200 I have is pretty easy to use and provides a link to most  
> old formats,but the S5000 is even easier. If the S5000 had a emu- 
> like "save as S3000" I wouldn't need an S3200.
>

Yeah I have an S5000 also a Roland S330 which if you want 12/14 bit  
grunge is superb.I also have a Yamaha A3000 which is a nice machine  
very powerful,ESI32Turbo of course oh and a Roland DJ70.
>
> I suspect there are a range of more modern solutions to this that  
> the younger folks are enjoying.
>
> Grunging up samples is a personal thing, but I like the guitar-type  
> overloading the Line6 stuff offers.
> I suppose this is the Amp Farm type of result.
>
> Also some analog tape machines can produce interesting coloration on  
> single drums, and if you push the record level high enough you'll  
> hear the tape compression.
> A cassette machine for instance - multiple passes can take the edge  
> right off things.
> Pre-eq makes the input circuitry react differently, and the rest of  
> the record chain will grunge up in sympathy.
>
> I'm pretty sure this is an age related opinion, and familiarity of  
> these types of distortion will bias your opinion, though it also  
> depends on your overall instrumentation.
> I personally think the small pedals make sounds that are harder to  
> fit in around more traditional instrument sounds unless you spend  
> some time eq-ing the nasties out.
>

The Yamaha A3000 has loads of grunge/Compression tape FX obviously  
digital  but yeah overdriving an analog tape machine gives a gentle  
distortion but I also like some of the guitar pedals.
Anyway Kev if you want the CD I can just send it as an ISO,it should  
load in your Akai if not you have a new beer mat.

J
>
> Even distortion needs Orchestral-type arranging?
>
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Kev <kevymac@...>  
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jason,
> > the reply is appreciated as well as the offer of analog drum machine
> > samples, yeah! big old disks them 44mb jobs, compared to an sd card.
> > Not sure if the Esi32 directory will cross over without a bit o
> > converting / re-numbering. I am looking for the ("supposedly good")
> > Wizzoo electronic drums with Akai format section. But I admire that
> > you actually sampled your own drum machines, "much more authentic"
> >
> > Good luck
> > Kev
> >
> > On 17 Oct 2012, at 16:55, Jason Adkins wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Kev,
> > >
> > >
> > > Welcome to the group.
> > > How are the 44mb Sy-Quests bearing up? I use a Zip,external  
> 500mb HD
> > > and an external CD-Rom with my S5000 but I have always wondered  
> what
> > > the Sy-Quest's were like.
> > > My friend had an S1100 sounded a nice machine certainly sounds
> > > better than the stock S5000.
> > >
> > > I used to have an X7000 my first sampler if you don't include an
> > > Atari ST cart I liked it but those stupid 2.8inch microdiscs did  
> my
> > > head in,also that seperate out cable was a pig 13pin din I think
> > > always kept having to resolder that.
> > >
> > > Do you know what type of samples your S1100 can import because I
> > > have a CD-Rom I can upload to you with lots of old analogue drum
> > > machine samples I made for my ESi32 which the S5000 loads not sure
> > > about S1100 or S3000XL?
> > >
> > > I used to have a TR505 too,basically sounds a bit like a 707  
> with a
> > > couple of 727 latin percussion sounds I used to love the rubbery
> > > kick drum.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > On 17 Oct 2012, at 09:05, patternsinthewaves wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hi everyone,
> > >> Really happy to join. i got an 1100 from a studio with a massiv
> > >> library on old 44MB Sy-Quest drives. Just fitted a new back  
> liight,
> > >> S1100 is happy, i'm happy.
> > >> love the sound of Akai samplers, especially this one, the FX  
> sound
> > >> really nice.
> > >>
> > >> Keen but just got on the learning curve with CF/SD storage with  
> IDE/
> > >> SCSI, bridge/card reader.
> > >>
> > >> 2x X7000 keyboards /with memory and OS upgrades.
> > >> 2x S3000XL triggered by tr626 and tr505 to get closer to tr808/ 
> tr909
> > >> S1100
> > >>
> > >> Best
> > >> Kev
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> 
> <!-- #ygrp-mkp { border: 1px solid #d8d8d8; font-family: Arial;  
> margin: 10px 0; padding: 0 10px; } #ygrp-mkp hr { border: 1px solid  
> #d8d8d8; } #ygrp-mkp #hd { color: #628c2a; font-size: 85%; font- 
> weight: 700;  line-height: 122%; margin: 10px 0; } #ygrp-mkp #ads  
> { margin-bottom: 10px; } #ygrp-mkp .ad { padding: 0 0; } #ygrp- 
> mkp .ad p { margin: 0; } #ygrp-mkp .ad a { color: #0000ff; text- 
> decoration: none; } #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc { font-family: Arial; }  
> #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd { margin: 10px 0px; font-weight: 700;  
> font-size: 78%; line-height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad  
> { margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 0 0; } #actions { font-family:  
> Verdana; font-size: 11px; padding: 10px 0; } #activity { background- 
> color: #e0ecee; float: left; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px;  
> padding: 10px; } #activity span { font-weight: 700; } #activity  
> span:first-child { text-transform: uppercase; } #activity span a  
> { color: #5085b6; text-decoration: none; } #activity span span  
> { color: #ff7900; } #activity span .underline { text-decoration:  
> underline; } .attach { clear: both; display: table; font-family:  
> Arial; font-size: 12px; padding: 10px 0; width: 400px; } .attach div  
> a { text-decoration: none; } .attach img { border: none; padding- 
> right: 5px; } .attach label { display: block; margin-bottom:  
> 5px; } .attach label a { text-decoration: none; } blockquote  
> { margin: 0 0 0 4px; } .bold { font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;  
> font-weight: 700; } .bold a { text-decoration: none; } dd.last p a  
> { font-family: Verdana; font-weight: 700; } dd.last p span { margin- 
> right: 10px; font-family: Verdana; font-weight: 700; } dd.last p  
> span.yshortcuts { margin-right: 0; } div.attach-table div div a  
> { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table { width: 400px; }  
> div.file-title a, div.file-title a:active, div.file-title a:hover,  
> div.file-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } div.photo-title  
> a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo- 
> title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg  
> p a span.yshortcuts { font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; font- 
> weight: normal; } .green { color: #628c2a; } .MsoNormal { margin: 0  
> 0 0 0; } o { font-size: 0; } #photos div { float: left; width:  
> 72px; } #photos div div { border: 1px solid #666666; height: 62px;  
> overflow: hidden; width: 62px; } #photos div label { color: #666666;  
> font-size: 10px; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; white-space:  
> nowrap; width: 64px; } #reco-category { font-size: 77%; } #reco-desc  
> { font-size: 77%; } .replbq { margin: 4px; } #ygrp-actbar div  
> a:first-child { /* border-right: 0px solid #000;*/ margin-right:  
> 2px; padding-right: 5px; } #ygrp-mlmsg { font-size: 13px; font- 
> family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif; *font-size: small;  
> *font: x-small; } #ygrp-mlmsg table { font-size: inherit; font:  
> 100%; } #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea { font: 99% Arial,  
> Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; } #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code { font:115%  
> monospace; *font-size:100%; } #ygrp-mlmsg * { line-height: 1.22em; }  
> #ygrp-mlmsg #logo { padding-bottom: 10px; } #ygrp-msg p a { font- 
> family: Verdana; } #ygrp-msg p#attach-count span { color: #1E66AE;  
> font-weight: 700; } #ygrp-reco #reco-head { color: #ff7900; font- 
> weight: 700; } #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom: 20px; padding: 0px; }  
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a { font-size: 130%; text-decoration: none; }  
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov li { font-size: 77%; list-style-type: square;  
> padding: 6px 0; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0  
> 8px; } #ygrp-text { font-family: Georgia; } #ygrp-text p { margin: 0  
> 0 1em 0; } #ygrp-text tt { font-size: 120%; } #ygrp-vital ul li:last- 
> child { border-right: none !important; } -->