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Re: replacing inverter (electronic inverter?)

2012-09-17 by corey_keller@rocketmail.com

okay cool. thanks for the replies. I think i'm gonna try it. probably take a while to come in the mail

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "wavestation1" <turkeyshoot@...> wrote:
>
> That Backlights4You inverter should work no problem, but I don't know if
> its output is the same as what Akai are using,so your LCD could end up
> brighter or dimmer than what you were getting with the Akai inverter (no
> big deal really).
> Have a look at the picture of the Akai inverter in this thread:Gearslutz
> Thread
> <http://www.gearslutz.com/board/geekslutz-forum/524539-el-backlight-inve\
> rter-recommendations.html>
> 
> To me it looks like there's only the pulsing transformer and coil under
> that cover, but the "inverter" is the whole PCB. That 105 cm"inverter"
> should have all those parts already inside it. Might be best to check
> with the Backlights4You guy.
> If I'm right then all you have to do is remove all the parts off the
> Akai PCB and fit the new inverter on with the right connectionsfor 5v +
> and - then the AC out. It could end up being pretty easy. We really
> could use a schematic of that Akai inverter.
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "corey_keller@"
> <mr.coru@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I appreciate the reply and its thoroughness. If you have no idea what
> you're doing, I have even less. The electronic inverter seems like
> something i don't want to mess with. I was thinking maybe somebody had
> tried this already and could explain it to me but that doesn't seem to
> be the case.
> >
> > If anything, i'd try my luck with the classic inverter. I was under
> the impression that if i got this unit:
> http://www.backlight4you.com/product_info.php/info/p777_5-Volt-Inverter-\
> for-EL-Panels-up-to-105cm2-area.html
> >
> > ...I would have to solder it to the PCB inverter board in place of the
> old off-white unit. Though if i'm understanding what you're saying
> correctly, this item from backlights4you would replace the stock PCB
> unit entirely?
> >
> >
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "wavestation1"
> turkeyshoot@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh man if we can get a 5v electronic inverter working then there are
> thousands of old synths and rack units out there that need one.
> > >
> > > My Korg Wavestation for a start - it whines like hell.
> > >
> > > I talked with the guy at Backlight4You about the electronic one that
> he sells and he felt that running it at 5v would be at the limit and it
> might not last all that long.
> > >
> > > I do have some info about another inverter chip that can run on
> voltages up to 10 or 12 volts but I haven't got round to trying to build
> a prototype yet. Truth be told I don't know what I'm doing - don't know
> what the coil and caps etc actually do, so I would be building it off a
> suggested circuit design. It only has a few components and looks simple,
> but...
> > >
> > > EL panels will work at a wide range of AC voltages and frequencies
> they will just have a particular voltage and freq where the brightness
> vs life is optimised. However these inverter circuits can be made to
> optimise brightness, lifespan or even for minimum current draw.
> > >
> > > For the Wavestation I want to keep the current draw as low as
> possible and I don't mind losing a bit of brightness. There's some ratio
> between volts and frequency to determine the brightness.
> > >
> > > That other inverter at Backlights4You is a traditional type inverter
> with a small transformer in it (this is the thing that whines as it gets
> older) but it's fully encapsulated so could be pretty good and quiet.
> Looking at the schematic of the Akai inverter there are a couple of
> components on the little PCB and also a transformer inside a plastic
> cover. I'm assuming that these components are already inside the
> Backlights4You inverter. The other thing is what are the specs of the
> Akai inverter - AC volts and frequency?
> > >
> > > The Backlights 5v traditional inverter should work though it may not
> be at the right level for optimum brightness, or it may be too bright
> and the EL panel will wear out quicker. From what I have read most EL
> panel inverters are around the 100v AC at 400Hz sort of level, so it
> should probably be close enough.
> > >
> > > Sorry to go on, but I would love to solve this inverter problem and
> start to put electronic inverters in my equipment as they start to get
> noisy.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Raph
> > >
> > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "corey_keller@"
> <mr.coru@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think my inverter has seen its day. I haven't had the s1100 for
> very long, but when i got it, the backlight was dead and the inverter
> was super loud. I promptly replaced the backlight and the inverter
> quieted down to a gentle hum. It has been less than a week since i've
> replaced the backlight and it already seems less dim, but worse, the
> inverter it starting to get obnoxiously loud again especially after the
> unit is powered on for more than 10 minutes. I figure this is the
> inverters fault. If you guys agree with my diagnosis:
> > > >
> > > > 1) has anybody had success installing an electronic inverter?
> (this exact model was linked to in another topic)
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.backlight4you.com/product_info.php/info/p915_3-Volt-Inverter-\
> for-EL-Panels-up-to-60cm2-area.html
> > > >
> > > > 2) what about this one? would it work?
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.backlight4you.com/product_info.php/info/p777_5-Volt-Inverter-\
> for-EL-Panels-up-to-105cm2-area.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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