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Dual Comp questions

2010-04-24 by dr.jasoncrest

It's been quiet here lately other than those wonderful new photos of the old Serge labs so I guess now might be a good time to post this. I've got an N Comp now and a Dual Comp coming. I don't use the N Comp much since I don't really understand how it works. When I read the description it sounds like they're essential in creating interesting triggers though I'm not totally sure that I understand how either of the dual comps function.
For the most part I think I understand the description of the comps though that doesn't make figuring out how to use them that much easier. Anyone willing to go into a little bit of detail will be blessed with, um, something. I don't know what yet. I'll have to get back to you on that.

Best,
JC

Re: Dual Comp questions

2010-04-24 by John P

The N com is one of those things you could write a full article about.

It has two main sections: the comparator and the divider. The comparator
has the same function as each unit in the dual comparator module.
You put a signal into either nput, it compares it to the knob setting
summed with the other input. Its easiest use is making nice square and
rectangular pulses from a sine, triangle or sawtooth. Input an audio
signals into + and -, you get interesting klang tones at the
comparator's output.

Yes, you can use the comparator to make triggers also. The comparator's
output is either high or ground. Use slower signals and trigger signals
in + and - to make trigger pulses.

The divider divides the pulse from the comparator by the /N knob
setting, from 1 to 31. You can use this as a frequency divider. The /N
output gives you one (narrow) pulse for every N input pulses. You can
control the divisor with the knob or a voltage.

The "Step Out" gives you a staircase with N equal-sized steps. If you
have a staircase with 10 steps, each step is smaller than one with 3 steps.

Something I never hear discussed is the pairing of the comparator and
the quantizer. I forget the exact connection, but patch the input of the
quantizer into the + input of the comparator, and the quantizer's output
to the - input of the comparator. Using this, trigger signals will come
from the comparator output every time the quantizer's output makes a
transition. "So what" you say. If you use the quantizer to quantize
slow-moving LFO or random signals, this is a great way to trigger them
as notes.

dr.jasoncrest wrote:
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>
> It's been quiet here lately other than those wonderful new photos of
> the old Serge labs so I guess now might be a good time to post this.
> I've got an N Comp now and a Dual Comp coming. I don't use the N Comp
> much since I don't really understand how it works. When I read the
> description it sounds like they're essential in creating interesting
> triggers though I'm not totally sure that I understand how either of
> the dual comps function.
> For the most part I think I understand the description of the comps
> though that doesn't make figuring out how to use them that much
> easier. Anyone willing to go into a little bit of detail will be
> blessed with, um, something. I don't know what yet. I'll have to get
> back to you on that.
>
> Best,
> JC
>
> _

Re: Dual Comp questions

2010-04-26 by tyhodson

I replied to this via email, but it never showed up -- so I'm replying now via direct web post.
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Additionally, Rex wrote the following to me a while back regarding my ÷N Comparator, and it helped me out a lot!

"Input signal(s) must be in either (or both) of the [comparator] (IN+ / -) blue jacks and the knob directly above them set for the 'optimal' pulse width of the conversion. This resultant GATE out (or pulse stream out) is then outputted from the red jack directly above the knob. [The comparator section] of the function has to be set up BEFORE the [÷N] section with the dividers will work correctly."

Hope that helps you too!
ty
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> It's been quiet here lately other than those wonderful new photos of the old Serge labs so I guess now might be a good time to post this. I've got an N Comp now and a Dual Comp coming. I don't use the N Comp much since I don't really understand how it works.<snip>

Re: Dual Comp questions

2010-05-03 by ty hodson

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    Additionally, Rex wrote the following to me a while back regarding my ÷N Comparator, and it helped me out a lot!

    “Input signal(s) must be in either (or both) of the [comparator] (IN+ / -) blue jacks and the knob directly above them set for the 'optimal' pulse width of the conversion. This resultant GATE out (or pulse stream out) is then outputted from the red jack directly above the knob. [The comparator section] of the function has to be set up BEFORE the [÷N] section with the dividers will work correctly.”


    Hope that helps you too!
    ty

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    From: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SergeModular@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John P
    Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:53 PM
    To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [SergeModular] Dual Comp questions

    The N com is one of those things you could write a full article about.

    It has two main sections: the comparator and the divider. The comparator
    has the same function as each unit in the dual comparator module.
    You put a signal into either nput, it compares it to the knob setting
    summed with the other input. Its easiest use is making nice square and
    rectangular pulses from a sine, triangle or sawtooth. Input an audio
    signals into + and -, you get interesting klang tones at the
    comparator's output.

    Yes, you can use the comparator to make triggers also. The comparator's
    output is either high or ground. Use slower signals and trigger signals
    in + and - to make trigger pulses.

    The divider divides the pulse from the comparator by the /N knob
    setting, from 1 to 31. You can use this as a frequency divider. The /N
    output gives you one (narrow) pulse for every N input pulses. You can
    control the divisor with the knob or a voltage.

    The "Step Out" gives you a staircase with N equal-sized steps. If you
    have a staircase with 10 steps, each step is smaller than one with 3 steps.

    Something I never hear discussed is the pairing of the comparator and
    the quantizer. I forget the exact connection, but patch the input of the
    quantizer into the + input of the comparator, and the quantizer's output
    to the - input of the comparator. Using this, trigger signals will come
    from the comparator output every time the quantizer's output makes a
    transition. "So what" you say. If you use the quantizer to quantize
    slow-moving LFO or random signals, this is a great way to trigger them
    as notes.

    dr.jasoncrest wrote:

    >
    >
    > It's been quiet here lately other than those wonderful new photos of
    > the old Serge labs so I guess now might be a good time to post this.
    > I've got an N Comp now and a Dual Comp coming. I don't use the N Comp
    > much since I don't really understand how it works. When I read the
    > description it sounds like they're essential in creating interesting
    > triggers though I'm not totally sure that I understand how either of
    > the dual comps function.
    > For the most part I think I understand the description of the comps
    > though that doesn't make figuring out how to use them that much
    > easier. Anyone willing to go into a little bit of detail will be
    > blessed with, um, something. I don't know what yet. I'll have to get
    > back to you on that.
    >
    > Best,
    > JC
    >
    > _

    Re: Dual Comp questions

    2010-05-13 by dr.jasoncrest

    Thanks so much!

    --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "ty hodson" <yahoo123@...> wrote:
    >
    > Additionally, Rex wrote the following to me a while back regarding my ÷N
    > Comparator, and it helped me out a lot!
    >
    >
    >
    > "Input signal(s) must be in either (or both) of the [comparator] (IN+ / -)
    > blue jacks and the knob directly above them set for the 'optimal' pulse
    > width of the conversion. This resultant GATE out (or pulse stream out) is
    > then outputted from the red jack directly above the knob. [The comparator
    > section] of the function has to be set up BEFORE the [÷N] section with the
    > dividers will work correctly."
    >
    >
    > Hope that helps you too!
    > ty
    >
    >
    >
    > _______________
    > <http://sublevel9.net> http://sublevel9.net
    >
    >
    >
    > From: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SergeModular@yahoogroups.com] On
    > Behalf Of John P
    > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:53 PM
    > To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [SergeModular] Dual Comp questions
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > The N com is one of those things you could write a full article about.
    >
    > It has two main sections: the comparator and the divider. The comparator
    > has the same function as each unit in the dual comparator module.
    > You put a signal into either nput, it compares it to the knob setting
    > summed with the other input. Its easiest use is making nice square and
    > rectangular pulses from a sine, triangle or sawtooth. Input an audio
    > signals into + and -, you get interesting klang tones at the
    > comparator's output.
    >
    > Yes, you can use the comparator to make triggers also. The comparator's
    > output is either high or ground. Use slower signals and trigger signals
    > in + and - to make trigger pulses.
    >
    > The divider divides the pulse from the comparator by the /N knob
    > setting, from 1 to 31. You can use this as a frequency divider. The /N
    > output gives you one (narrow) pulse for every N input pulses. You can
    > control the divisor with the knob or a voltage.
    >
    > The "Step Out" gives you a staircase with N equal-sized steps. If you
    > have a staircase with 10 steps, each step is smaller than one with 3 steps.
    >
    > Something I never hear discussed is the pairing of the comparator and
    > the quantizer. I forget the exact connection, but patch the input of the
    > quantizer into the + input of the comparator, and the quantizer's output
    > to the - input of the comparator. Using this, trigger signals will come
    > from the comparator output every time the quantizer's output makes a
    > transition. "So what" you say. If you use the quantizer to quantize
    > slow-moving LFO or random signals, this is a great way to trigger them
    > as notes.
    >
    > dr.jasoncrest wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > > It's been quiet here lately other than those wonderful new photos of
    > > the old Serge labs so I guess now might be a good time to post this.
    > > I've got an N Comp now and a Dual Comp coming. I don't use the N Comp
    > > much since I don't really understand how it works. When I read the
    > > description it sounds like they're essential in creating interesting
    > > triggers though I'm not totally sure that I understand how either of
    > > the dual comps function.
    > > For the most part I think I understand the description of the comps
    > > though that doesn't make figuring out how to use them that much
    > > easier. Anyone willing to go into a little bit of detail will be
    > > blessed with, um, something. I don't know what yet. I'll have to get
    > > back to you on that.
    > >
    > > Best,
    > > JC
    > >
    > > _
    >

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