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Re: IS ANYONE ANSWERING THE PHONE?

2001-07-06 by John Papiewski

Derrick Ian Espino wrote:

> HI all, Im a sound designer from the Northern California Bay Area and
> I've been trying to find information on these synths.. How are they
> for processing audio?

They have a lot of audio processing capability, but I don't have a lot of
experience with that side of it.

> What do they do that say, MOTM's do not?

MOTM by all accounts is a fine system but conservatively designed and with a
limited number of modules due to their having been around only a few years.
I could go on and on here about the virtues of the Serge system.... just
check out the EGRES site: http://www.wwa.com/~johnp/egres.htm

> Ive
> tried to call Rex and have only gotten a machine?

Rex has been terribly busy after his move but turnaround is getting better.

> Are they still
> making catalogs?

Yep.

> Whats the cheapest pannel he offers?

The TKB is about $1500, plus you'll need a box and a power supply.

> All this would
> be a great help thank you... D ESPINO
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Re: IS ANYONE ANSWERING THE PHONE?

2001-07-07 by John Papiewski

Well, the Serge is a very flexible system with many different strange
modules... and some ordinary ones too.
Patching with stackable banana plugs is very fun, opens a lot of
possibilities.
Trigger, audio, and control signals are pretty easily mixed/interchanged.
The VCFQ can be used as a filter, quadrature oscillator, source for
percussion sounds or extremely slow damped oscillations.
The wave multiplier is a really nice set of audio harmonic manipulators.
The sequencers come in a great variety and can easily be run to audio
frequencies.
The DSG/DTG is extremely strange and useful: audio oscillator, VC LFO,
envelope generator that delivers linear, log, and exponential slopes, slew
limiter with independent rise/fall, audio filter, pulse divider, trigger
delay, envelope detector.... it has insanely wide range, from several hours
per cycle to ~ 3 khz.
Rumor has it the oscillators can be pushed to over 1 Mhz, in case you ever
need to do an impromptu ultrasound on a pregnant woman in the audience...
The NCOM does variable pulse division by 1 thru 32 by turning a knob or under
voltage control. The Pulse Divider has several (7?) simultaneous division
outputs.... most other makes just give you division by powers-of-two if you
get any pulse division capability at all.

Man, I don't want to get rooked into a 'no other synth does this' discussion
because there is a lot of capability overlap between makes... and a lot of
flattery-by-imitation too.... someone will always say, well, the Trautonium
did such-and-such, or the RCA Mark II did this-and-that, and the Serge won't
do that....

The Serge is a demanding & rewarding system for lunatics willing to put up
the money & put up with Rex's uneven schedule. Not for people who want easy
touch-of-a-button synth effects, who don't want to get involved in a risky,
potentially time-consuming, thoughtful, creative process.

The $1500 TKB is one module, the touch keyboard sequencer. Most systems have
at least one.

The well-deserved wiseass comment about MOTM being conservative is a flip
opinion on the module lineup: oscillator, VCA, ring mod, ADSR, couple
filters. Now they have a multiple panel & a mixer. A pulse divider/pulse
mixer (XOR?) is about as wild as they get. Designed & built solid & clean,
available as kits.

Cheers & Good Luck

John P.

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> YOu say the MOTMs are conservative. Do the Serge Modules do "crazy" stuff
> that no other synth does? You say that the cheapest panel is about 1500,
> what modules are in it? D ESPINO
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Re: IS ANYONE ANSWERING THE PHONE?

2001-07-07 by C. Whitten

Two of the best modules for audio processing which John didn't mention are
the frequency shifter and resonant eq.
I wouldn't go for a TKB if you are looking into sound design/processing,
money could be better spent on a second panel. I would also make up a custom
panel, I'm not sure if Rex is offering the 'shop' panels at the moment.
Top modules that I have experience of are:
Wave Multiplier
Frequency Shifter
Resonant Eq
DSG

A few modules I don't own but look extremely promising are the Quadrature
Oscillator, Wave Shaper and the (audio input) Pre-Amp Detector.
BTW I think MOTM have a few more weird modules, triple filter and
subharmonic resonator for example.
I don't think you would be disappointed with the Serge except for the outlay
of cash required.

Re: IS ANYONE ANSWERING THE PHONE?

2001-07-07 by Microtonal

Go here to configure Serge panels and get typical pricing:

http://www.modular-planner.com/index.html

John Loffink
microtonal@...

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Subject: Re: [SergeModular] IS ANYONE ANSWERING THE PHONE?

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> YOu say the MOTMs are conservative. Do the Serge Modules do "crazy" stuff
> that no other synth does? You say that the cheapest panel is about 1500,
> what modules are in it? D ESPINO
>
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Re: phone is ringing?designing 2 panel system

2001-07-07 by Barry Michael

Chris is right. If I could only get 2 panels, I'd get an Animal and a Soup Kitchen 1. When you buy the TKB, you really need to look at it as a 2 panel purchase, as a lot of the tools you need to use it best are in the Quantizer panel. Buy a six panel PS, and a SKB case for 3 panels. Round out the first 2 panels later with a custom panel after you play the instrument for a while.

HTH,

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Re: phone is ringing?designing 2 panel system

2001-07-07 by Barry Michael

Sorry to post repeatedly, but I forgot to add in the last post that Rex is getting ready to do a run of Animal panels like immediately. I don't know exactly how many, but there are several. One of them is mine. He says that the delivery time on these is not going to be long, or as long as custom stuff he has going now.

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Re: phone is ringing?designing 2 panel system

2001-07-08 by Barry Michael

Derrick,

In the Srge Modular Group "files" area, you will find a color graphic of the "Animal" panel which you can download. At the Egres site you will find all the rest of the "Shop Panels" including both the "Soup Kitchens". The URLS folow:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SergeModular

http://www.wwa.com/~johnp/egres.htm

Hope this helps, Enjoy,

BarryM

derrick espino <phlizmo@...> wrote:

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So what does the Animal have in it? How much? Good for a basic set up
to be built on later? D ESPINO

---- Barry Michael <dzogchen2002@...> wrote:
>
> Chris is right. If I could only get 2 panels, I'd get an Animal and
> a Soup Kitchen 1. When you buy the TKB, you really need to look at
> it as a 2 panel purchase, as a lot of the tools you need to use it
> best are in the Quantizer panel. Buy a six panel PS, and a SKB case
> for 3 panels. Round out the first 2 panels later with a custom panel
> after you play the instrument for a while.
> HTH,
> BarryM
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