SergeModular

I don't see much discussion or sharing of patches or tips or anything - maybe you all aren't into that. Regardless... here's something that may be painfully obtuse or even obvious to many of you, but I'm going to throw it out there anyway.

I was watching some youtube vid of a scope of a Buchla 261e (complex waveform is right - hot damn was that pretty) and got to thinking. Cross-patched the trig in-out on my TG clock (any DTG or DSG would work, left-side out to right-side in and vise-versa), cranked the rate and rise/fall knobs into audible territory and fussed with it for a bit to get alternating short-bump/big-bump from the blue outs (then mixed together).

I'm not claiming it's even remotely the same, and forget about tracking - though I'll assume if you're running "pitch" CV from a sequencer or such, you fudge to ear anyway. Speaking of which, though: the interesting part of all this was taking the voltage from the sequencer and using it as positive vc in on one half and negative in the other. If you can imagine, with some judicious tweaking things got pretty acid from there... all before I even approached the filter.

Anyhow... that was the highlight of my afternoon. Chime in if you've done something similar (I'm sure somebody has), or just try it out and report back if you're so inclined.

Otherwise, feel free to share something else fun or interesting.

Nice suggestion; Not having a TGO, I tried it with DTG and had a little better results with DSG, but both tend to freeze if you push to high into the audio range. Sweeping with +/- voltages created some fun vowel sounds.

I also appreciate it when simple patch ideas are posted. Everybody's systems are different, so complex patches do not transfer well, but the basic building blocks are helpful.

Thanks for sharing
jmr

I agree, building blocks are good to share or small, interesting patches that use function cells that anyone might have.
Cool patch, by the way. I hadn't tried that before.

Matt

> > Nice suggestion; Not having a TGO, I tried it with DTG and had a little
> > better results with DSG, but both tend to freeze if you push to high into
> > the audio range. Sweeping with +/- voltages created some fun vowel sounds.

Yeah... I meant to mention that, they're only good up until about 4k or so? As a point of clarification, though - I was actually the TG Clock (from the Seq A M-odule). The left side of the TGO is hardwired to cycle, so it's not able to partake in this one. Essentially, my boat has 4 transient generators, each somewhat differently outfitted (the pair in the TGO won't similarly freeze).

> I agree, building blocks are good to share or small, interesting patches
> that use function cells that anyone might have.
> Cool patch, by the way. I hadn't tried that before.

I'm glad you guys had some fun with it... and yes, I spared you the rest of the patch as it is system dependant and I figured once the block is set up modulation of mix or vc ins, etc. is pretty universal. Nobody wants to know exactly what was done with every last cable and knob...

...but I figured everyone has a DSG or DTG of some sort, right?

I found it particularly useful when set such that the pitch would actually rise and then fall with increasing control voltage - if that makes any sense. The same pitch on the high-voltage side could have a very different timbre than that on the low-voltage side. In my small system (single M-Boat) this is almost like making two oscillators out of one (or none, really) or suddenly discovering a second filter... sort of.

Post more if you got 'em.

> Otherwise, feel free to share something else fun or interesting.
>

OK, here's a patch that I came up with the other day that was alot of fun. I've been messing around with feedback loops and thinking how cool it would be if I had a matrix mixer to use for that. But since it's probably going to be awhile since I am able to add one to my system I started thinking about how I might be able to patch something similar using my existing panels and came up with the following patch using my dual audio mixer (AMX) and the top half of a dual processor (DPRO). Here's the patch:

- audio signal multed into input 1 of all three mixers
- output of AMX #1 into audio processor #1 (ie, WMX) and then into input 2 of all three mixers
- output of AMX #2 into audio processor #2 and then into input 3 of all three mixers
- tap output of mixer 3 (DPRO for me) and send to output VCA.
You can mult outputs 1 and 2 and play with the attenuator settings to get 3 different mixes of signal and feedback. I also had good results sending some of the outputs to FM the original signal and as CV inputs to the audio processors. I'm not sure if this is true matrix mixing but it does get pretty crazy pretty quickly. Anyway, I hadn't seen this patch discussed anywhere before so I thought I'd share it here. Let me know if you have any thoughts, improvements,etc.

Steve

Wow, you're right!
That's a fun patch with some great surprises, especially when I patched the outputs to FM the source and VC the audio processor(s). It went from subtle to extreme very quickly.

Matt

Thanks, if I'm not mistaken it results in a 3x3 matrix mixer in this application. I guess this will have to do until I can get the real one:)

Yes, I think you're right. Thanks for taking the time to work this out and share it. I'll probably use it all the time now (and try it with my Scaling Processors, etc., for DC), until I get a Matrix Mixer, too.

Matt

super patch Steve.
i'm having a lot of fun with it this morning.
Thanks!

> Wow, you're right!
> That's a fun patch with some great surprises, especially when I patched the
> outputs to FM the source and VC the audio processor(s). It went from subtle
> to extreme very quickly.

Now of course I wish I had all the functions on hand to try this out - In my head, it seems like a pile of fun.