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Variable Bandwidth VCF

Variable Bandwidth VCF

2001-06-01 by Fahl, Romeo

Hello SMOGers,

Got a question about the Serge variable BW filter. I noticed that there is
no resonance control on this filter (same as on its predecessor, the Buchla
291 VCF). Is there no need for that since you can sweep the bandwidth? I'm
assuming that sweeping resonance has a similar effect as sweeping resonance,
but can someone clarify that for me?
Seeing filters without resonance controls makes me nervous.

Romeo

Re: Variable Bandwidth VCF

2001-06-01 by Sebastian Kuehnl

Hi Romeo,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fahl, Romeo" <8brain@...>
To: <SergeModular@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:42 PM
Subject: [SergeModular] Variable Bandwidth VCF


: Hello SMOGers,
:
: Got a question about the Serge variable BW filter. I noticed that there
is
: no resonance control on this filter (same as on its predecessor, the
Buchla
: 291 VCF). Is there no need for that since you can sweep the bandwidth?
I'm
: assuming that sweeping resonance has a similar effect as sweeping
resonance,
: but can someone clarify that for me?
: Seeing filters without resonance controls makes me nervous.
:
: Romeo
:

The Buchla 291 dual variable bandwidth filter is resonant. It is a vactrol
design by the way just like the 292 lowpass gate and other 200 series
modules.

Sebastian Kuehnl


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Re: Variable Bandwidth VCF

2001-06-02 by Microtonal

Sweeping the bandwidth is a little like sweeping the resonance, but
different. With a narrow bandwidth, the peak remains at unity instead of
being amplified as with most filters. The effect is not as pronounced as
high resonance. You can also make the bandwidth much wider than a normal
bandpass filter, so you get effects ranging from lowpass and/or highpass to
bandpass all in one filter. Maybe we should consider it the first morphing
filter? If you move the bandwidth and frequency cutoff at the same time it
can definitely sound like all three.

John Loffink
microtonal@...
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>
> Got a question about the Serge variable BW filter. I noticed that there
is
> no resonance control on this filter (same as on its predecessor, the
Buchla
> 291 VCF). Is there no need for that since you can sweep the bandwidth?
I'm
> assuming that sweeping resonance has a similar effect as sweeping
resonance,
> but can someone clarify that for me?
> Seeing filters without resonance controls makes me nervous.
>
> Romeo
>

Re: Variable Bandwidth VCF & filter options

2001-06-02 by sonic@sonicboomuk.fsnet.co.uk

--- In SergeModular@y..., "Sebastian Kuehnl" <skuehnl@y...> wrote:
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> Hi Romeo,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fahl, Romeo" <8brain@s...>
> To: <SergeModular@y...>
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:42 PM
> Subject: [SergeModular] Variable Bandwidth VCF
>
>
> : Hello SMOGers,
> :
> : Got a question about the Serge variable BW filter. I noticed
that there
> is
> : no resonance control on this filter (same as on its predecessor,
the
> Buchla
> : 291 VCF). Is there no need for that since you can sweep the
bandwidth?
> I'm
> : assuming that sweeping resonance has a similar effect as sweeping
> resonance,
> : but can someone clarify that for me?
> : Seeing filters without resonance controls makes me nervous.
> :
> : Romeo
> :
yahoo.com

Hi Romeo
.
there is some similarity between resonance & bandwith in that
they both narrow/expand the freq. spread that the filter is working
on , but resonance tends to make a less uniform slope to the shape of
the filter. More resonance tends to make the actively processed area
narrower in bandwidth . The vc slope & vc bandwidth filters seem to
have sensibly chosen resonant settings , plus you can create your own
resonance by feeding the output back in to some degree(feeding the
signal thru in a feedback loop. you can also use two filters in
series , or in parallel , to increase db per octave cutoff , double
resonant peaks etc. Hope my layman speek makes sense .
Also on the 24 db per oct. debate - Are'nt there several 1 v
per o. filters available from a multitude of sources ?
oscillate wildly
P.K.

Re: Variable Bandwidth VCF & filter options

2001-06-06 by Barry Michael

Has anybody checked out the Modcan filters for
additional options on a Serge? - They are fully patch
compatible. Has anybody heard them?
BarryM
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> > : Hello SMOGers,
> > :
> > : Got a question about the Serge variable BW
> filter. I noticed
> that there
> > is
> > : no resonance control on this filter (same as on
> its predecessor,
> the
> > Buchla
> > : 291 VCF). Is there no need for that since you
> can sweep the
> bandwidth?
> > I'm
> > : assuming that sweeping resonance has a similar
> effect as sweeping
> > resonance,
> > : but can someone clarify that for me?
> > : Seeing filters without resonance controls makes
> me nervous.
> > :
> > : Romeo
> > :
> yahoo.com
>
> Hi Romeo
> .
> there is some similarity between resonance &
> bandwith in that
> they both narrow/expand the freq. spread that the
> filter is working
> on , but resonance tends to make a less uniform
> slope to the shape of
> the filter. More resonance tends to make the
> actively processed area
> narrower in bandwidth . The vc slope & vc bandwidth
> filters seem to
> have sensibly chosen resonant settings , plus you
> can create your own
> resonance by feeding the output back in to some
> degree(feeding the
> signal thru in a feedback loop. you can also use two
> filters in
> series , or in parallel , to increase db per octave
> cutoff , double
> resonant peaks etc. Hope my layman speek makes sense
> .
> Also on the 24 db per oct. debate - Are'nt
> there several 1 v
> per o. filters available from a multitude of sources
> ?
> oscillate wildly
> P.K.
>
>


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Re: Variable Bandwidth VCF & filter options

2001-06-06 by Les Mizzell

> Has anybody checked out the Modcan filters for
> additional options on a Serge?

Even though Grant would kill me if he knew I was thinking about it, but I
was considering modding a Wiard filter or two myself. He swore that bananas
would never fit on the panel, but I got a ruler out and went over the panel
specs and I think they will.

Of course, it would help if I actually had a Wiard filter here to be sure!
I'll remedy that shortly...

heh...

Les Mizzell
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