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RE: [SergeModular] how close is the serge to the buchla soundwise?

RE: [SergeModular] how close is the serge to the buchla soundwise?

2006-06-19 by rdrake

cray,

a friendly word of warning. i had ordered and paid for a quad-LPG from cyndustries at the end of 2004. after months of non-delivery & excuses, Cyndi finally told me her old design was defective, and that she needed to do a redesign at some unspecified time. i wound up cancelling the order. apparently, her redesign is still in the works.

instead, i built one using Mark Verbos's PCB desgin (http://www.simple-answer.com/DIY.html), it works well and sounds sweet. i also have both of the in-production Wiard filters, which are Vactrol based... also, great sounds, and Grant was prompt and professional in terms of shipping when promised.

i can't say anything about comparisons to a buchla, since i've never had an opportunity to play one. i do use them w/ my serge rack, and it's a happy collabaration.

FWIW, my dealings with cyndi left a pretty sour taste, although i understand others have had good experiences. I would really like a zero-osc, frinstance... but would only consider buying from her if she had a completed unit in stock, un-spoken for and ready to ship on reciept of payment... just my $.02

bbob
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>----- ------- Original Message ------- -----
>From: :SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
>To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:51:55
>
>hi all
>
>I have never seen a Buchla in the flesh and am
>liking the Buchla name
>on the Cynthia Low Pass Gate...but as I am still a
>noobie to Serge, is
>it a waste of time pursuing the Cynthia LPG if the
>Serge can give the
>same result, and if so how?
>
>I really love the stuff Morton SUbotnick did on
>Wild Bull etc and this
>is why the Cynthia LPG is appealing to me.....
>
>From using the Serge todate (3 months), I love the
>mouth like sound
>quality of the Variable Q VCF, I also love the
>Wilson Analog Delay,
>though I find it quite hissy...I am in he process
>of getting a cabinet
>made up so it will look like a big VCS3 style
>cabinet with 4 Serges
>
>My dream would be to add a Dual ADSR, Spring
>Reverb, SYnthacon
>Filter,Twin Wasp Filer, and he Buchla LPG

Re: how close is the serge to the buchla soundwise?

2006-06-19 by epk

I had similar experiences with Cynthia on delivery of modules and her aftertaste, although she never said anything about her LPG design being defective to me. I finally got one, and it does sound very good.

Did she mention how it was defective?

The only issue I've noticed is that it needs more than the standard +5v that the modcan format cv sources deliver. I don't have much in the way of serge cv sources yet, but I always assumed if I drove it with a serge cv, it would drive fine.

epk

On Jun 18, 2006, at 6:42 PM, rdrake wrote:

cray,

a friendly word of warning. i had ordered and paid for a quad-LPG from cyndustries at the end of 2004. after months of non-delivery & excuses, Cyndi finally told me her old design was defective, and that she needed to do a redesign at some unspecified time. i wound up cancelling the order. apparently, her redesign is still in the works.

instead, i built one using Mark Verbos's PCB desgin (http://www.simple-answer.com/DIY.html), it works well and sounds sweet. i also have both of the in-production Wiard filters, which are Vactrol based... also, great sounds, and Grant was prompt and professional in terms of shipping when promised.

i can't say anything about comparisons to a buchla, since i've never had an opportunity to play one. i do use them w/ my serge rack, and it's a happy collabaration.

FWIW, my dealings with cyndi left a pretty sour taste, although i understand others have had good experiences. I would really like a zero-osc, frinstance... but would only consider buying from her if she had a completed unit in stock, un-spoken for and ready to ship on reciept of payment... just my $.02

bbob

>----- ------- Original Message ------- -----
>From: :SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
>To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:51:55
>
>hi all
>
>I have never seen a Buchla in the flesh and am
>liking the Buchla name
>on the Cynthia Low Pass Gate...but as I am still a
>noobie to Serge, is
>it a waste of time pursuing the Cynthia LPG if the
>Serge can give the
>same result, and if so how?
>
>I really love the stuff Morton SUbotnick did on
>Wild Bull etc and this
>is why the Cynthia LPG is appealing to me.....
>
>From using the Serge todate (3 months), I love the
>mouth like sound
>quality of the Variable Q VCF, I also love the
>Wilson Analog Delay,
>though I find it quite hissy...I am in he process
>of getting a cabinet
>made up so it will look like a big VCS3 style
>cabinet with 4 Serges
>
>My dream would be to add a Dual ADSR, Spring
>Reverb, SYnthacon
>Filter,Twin Wasp Filer, and he Buchla LPG


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