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external controllers and connectors...

2001-04-21 by Sebastian Kuehnl

For those who don't yet know this pic...
http://vangogh.cs.tcd.ie/scollins/vincest.html
What the text calls a Buchla is obviously a four-panel Serge. The sequencer
description is true I think, Clarke has never used MIDI. Most impressive to
me is the centralized intersystem patching. I still don't like the music
though *o)

Sebastian Kuehnl


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Re: external controllers and connectors...

2001-04-21 by spacemodule@webtv.net

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    I thought that Vince Clark actually had Robert Doerschaks old Buchla
    System 200 (if I remember correctly). He had a front cover article
    some year's back for Keyboard Magazine (U.S.). This studio is very
    interesting, the most spaceship looking that I have ever seen. Vince
    isn't a total analogue purist anymore though, he has used such MIDI
    devices as the Roland PMA-5 and JV-1080.
    I'm not much a fan of his music either, but his studio is one of the
    coolest looking.


    Is anyone familiar with Mike Thorne's Serge? He produced experimental
    Punks Wire amongst others. I was just curious what kind of music he has
    done with a Serge. There was an interview with him in Sound on Sound
    not too long ago.



    Best,

    Nick

    Re: Vince Clark

    2001-04-22 by hizumi@rocketmail.com

    --- In SergeModular@y..., spacemodule@w... wrote:
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    > I thought that Vince Clark actually had Robert Doerschaks old
    Buchla
    > System 200 (if I remember correctly).

    yes, that story was in keyboard, a 3rd party pretended to be a
    serious modular admirer and musician but was really a broker,
    he bought it off RD for cheap then imediately sold it at a profit to
    Clark.

    He had a front cover article
    > some year's back for Keyboard Magazine (U.S.). This studio is
    very
    > interesting, the most spaceship looking that I have ever seen.
    Vince
    > isn't a total analogue purist anymore though, he has used
    such MIDI

    correct, he used lots of whatever was popular at the time before
    and after the article too. I think that article helped give him the
    purist reputation and was probably true just at that time --I think it
    was around erasure's "I Say I Say" album.

    anyway I can say that that album, if I got the name right, is
    extremely well crafted, heavily multitracked and is full of self
    programmed analog drum sounds which are a great break from
    the sampled loops or X0X machines of others

    So, I think he dosen't like modern computer based MIDI
    sequencers and still might not.

    > description is true I think, Clarke has never used MIDI. Most
    impressive to

    those who think that should check out earlier interviews with him
    also, the Keyboard 2/90 issue for instance where he's playing in
    the pics on a D50 and talking about racks of midi gear along with
    how nice his Akai sampled 909 drums are. I'm pretty sure he did
    some 1980s ads for Casio too.

    Re: external controllers and connectors...

    2001-04-24 by r_a_quirk@yahoo.co.uk

    this will be a late but I'm reading up:
    The part I like is "Note the Buchla Modular on top in the middle.
    This is his latest addition (which was used for only 1 sound on the
    latest album)."
    is that supposed to sound impressive? If he's going to spend $8K+
    (estimated) then he should know how to get more than one brilliant
    sound of a Buchla modular (unless it's just an invt or trying to be
    cool).
    Did anyone see the article on Music Control in the latest Sound on
    Sound, and the bit about buying a VCS3 as an invt (it's worth more
    now than two years ago). I wouldn't think that someone could charge
    high prices on synths that are still available to buy new (i.e. EMS
    VCS3/AKS (minus sequencer & kybd) & Serge). There is a bit of wait,
    but you do a get some kind of guarantee and know that there's someone
    there to fix it. I think the Music Control guarantee is max 3
    months, maybe longer for the Moog 3C, etc. Are people really willing
    to pay high prices on EMS stuff just to get the added sequencer
    (everyone I've known who's come into contact with it hasn't like it)?

    Richard
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    --- In SergeModular@y..., "Sebastian Kuehnl" <skuehnl@y...> wrote:
    > For those who don't yet know this pic...
    > http://vangogh.cs.tcd.ie/scollins/vincest.html
    > What the text calls a Buchla is obviously a four-panel Serge. The
    sequencer
    > description is true I think, Clarke has never used MIDI. Most
    impressive to
    > me is the centralized intersystem patching. I still don't like the
    music
    > though *o)
    >
    > Sebastian Kuehnl
    >
    >
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    Re: external controllers and connectors...

    2001-04-25 by Sebastian Kuehnl

    Hello,

    --- r_a_quirk@... wrote:
    > this will be a late but I'm reading up:
    > The part I like is "Note the Buchla Modular on top in the middle.
    > This is his latest addition (which was used for only 1 sound on the
    > latest album)."
    > is that supposed to sound impressive? If he's going to spend $8K+
    > (estimated) then he should know how to get more than one brilliant
    > sound of a Buchla modular (unless it's just an invt or trying to be
    > cool).

    You don't know how much he uses it privately. Actually even producers of cheap
    X0X dance music are often young and old synth freaks gaining some financial
    compensation for pursuing their expensive passion while still being at the
    knobs in some way.

    Secondly, I would say that analog sound standards in Pop music have generally
    been set by unison sawtooth chords, deliberate sweeping of resonant lowpass
    filters and piano-like activated envelopes. Buchla instruments were rather
    unpresumptive about such standards. Highly abstract operations can very
    intuitively controlled, in return it may be more difficult to create sounds for
    a mass market with Buchlas than with others.


    > Did anyone see the article on Music Control in the latest Sound on
    > Sound, and the bit about buying a VCS3 as an invt (it's worth more
    > now than two years ago). I wouldn't think that someone could charge
    > high prices on synths that are still available to buy new (i.e. EMS
    > VCS3/AKS (minus sequencer & kybd) & Serge). There is a bit of wait,
    > but you do a get some kind of guarantee and know that there's someone
    > there to fix it.

    Robin Wood did sell restored used Synthis until the price inflation in the
    nineties.


    I think the Music Control guarantee is max 3
    > months, maybe longer for the Moog 3C, etc. Are people really willing
    > to pay high prices on EMS stuff just to get the added sequencer
    > (everyone I've known who's come into contact with it hasn't like it)?

    I can think of at leat three reasons. If one wanted high end analog gear one
    would not like EMS synths; they are liked because of the unpredictability which
    the plenty of insufficiently buffered matrix inputs on each module cause the
    unit to behave with, so any quirky tics a synth might develop during its
    lifetime can be considered an enrichment on these. Other people pay dearly for
    professionally circuitbent Speak'n'spells and Casios.

    The Mark One models have features some people prefer to the Mark Two a.k.a.
    Putney respectively Portabella Road models which are the units still built
    today (there is for new ones a standard row of factory mods).

    If one bought an AKS because of its portability one would usually appreciate
    the integrated keyboard and sequencer.


    Kind regards,
    Sebastian Kuehnl


    >
    > Richard
    >
    > --- In SergeModular@y..., "Sebastian Kuehnl" <skuehnl@y...> wrote:

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