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Re: Digest Number 233

2002-04-04 by metasonix

>Martin Newcomb at the museum studio has a scematics for the
>Clavioline >Price: £45

ack!

>There must be some other way (perhaps Mark Glinsky???)
>$65 seems steep for a photocopy.

No, Glinsky doesn't have this one.

And yes, that is very steep. Looks like Mr. Newcomb is another
one of those typical British small businessmen, eh?
In the great Jenkins tradition......... ; )

E. Barbour

designer, METASONIX (www.metasonix.com)
and senior editor, Vacuum Tube Valley magazine

Re: Digest Number 233

2002-04-06 by Steve Ridley

> And yes, that is very steep. Looks like Mr. Newcomb is another
> one of those typical British small businessmen, eh?
> In the great Jenkins tradition......... ; )
>
>
> E. Barbour

Perhaps you should share your views of the British with
Mr. Newcomb? I'm sure he'd be delighted to adjust his
price accordingly.

Steve Ridley

Re: Digest Number 233

2002-04-06 by m. blake wilson law office

Steve Ridley wrote:

> And yes, that is very steep. Looks like Mr. Newcomb is another
> one of those typical British small businessmen, eh?
> In the great Jenkins tradition......... ; )
>
>
> E. Barbour
Perhaps you should share your views of the British with
Mr. Newcomb? I'm sure he'd be delighted to adjust his
price accordingly.
that's enough, boys. eric grow up and steve, don't take the bait, ok?
b.
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Re: Digest Number 233

2002-04-07 by studio1dk

--- In SergeModular@y..., "Steve Ridley" <spr@s...> wrote:

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> > And yes, that is very steep. Looks like Mr. Newcomb is another
> > one of those typical British small businessmen, eh?
> > In the great Jenkins tradition......... ; )
> >
> >
> > E. Barbour
>
> Perhaps you should share your views of the British with
> Mr. Newcomb? I'm sure he'd be delighted to adjust his
> price accordingly.
>
>
> Steve Ridley

It´s not easy to help people these days..........
Keld

Re: Digest Number 233/ dubious comments...

2002-04-07 by sonicsynthi

--- In SergeModular@y..., "studio1dk" <keld.soerensen1@s...> wrote:

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> --- In SergeModular@y..., "Steve Ridley" <spr@s...> wrote:
> > > And yes, that is very steep. Looks like Mr. Newcomb is another
> > > one of those typical British small businessmen, eh?
> > > In the great Jenkins tradition......... ; )
> > >
> > >
> > > E. Barbour
> >
> > Perhaps you should share your views of the British with
> > Mr. Newcomb? I'm sure he'd be delighted to adjust his
> > price accordingly.
> >
> >
> > Steve Ridley
>
> It´s not easy to help people these days..........
> Keld

My Dear Colonial cousins ,
Lets not sink to the depths of blighting all Englishmen with the
reputations of Messrs.Jenkins & Newcomb .
It would be akin to comparing all Americans with your dear
President Bush . Something patently untrue .
Mr.Newcomb can hardly be called a small business man , he is/was a
successfull Merchant Banker (the ironies of this phrase in cockney
ryhming slang may sink mid-atlantic , but it is incredibly apt .
Without doubt both are sheisters -I can speak from first hand
experience (altho' , I was happy to take an EMS 49 x 49 matrix off
Newcombe for a fraction of it's value) , but we really should'nt
stoop to denigrating the whole British race on their behalf.
Anyone having dealt people with Peter Forrest (vemia) or Robin Wood
(ems) , to name but two , are well aware that these are some of the
most reasonable , dedicated people around.
Surely this list has more to contribute than rascist slurs.
Your Limey rot-tooth chum
Sonicsynthi

Re: mikado madness

2002-04-07 by sonicsynthi

Anyone interested in John Patchell (seems its his real name...)
banana based (!) semi-modular sequencer super-controller ( sa host of
cool logig/trigger/gate/sequencer/pattern generator modules ,
particularly compatible with Serge , Fenix (which it looks a lot
like..), Synton & Modcan modulars .owners might like to check out the
fascinating conglomeration of modules at:
tecnotoys.com/mikado/FrontPanel
or: technotoys.com/mikado
best
SonicSynthi
p.s. nice little site too

Re: mikado madness

2002-04-08 by Jim Johnson

Wow, people seem psyched about this.. :').

Jim and I have been working on this for a few months now.. I designed the
front panel and specified the modules, and Jim's doing all the circuit
design and PC layout. I originally asked him to do just one for me, but he
liked the idea so much that he's going to have PC boards done and available
for sale.

It will be a few more months til things are available.. in the meantime,
just let Jim or I know if you're interested and we'll let you know when
things start to gel. Right now Jim is starting PC board layout - I don't
know how long it will take, but he says it's time-consuming, so I'm laying
back and letting him do it.

Jim Johnson
Metaphoric Software
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Makers of Techno Toys
Software for Electronic Music
http://www.technotoys.com
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On 4/8/02 at 12:56 AM sonicsynthi wrote:

>Anyone interested in John Patchell (seems its his real name...)
>banana based (!) semi-modular sequencer super-controller ( sa host of
>cool logig/trigger/gate/sequencer/pattern generator modules ,
>particularly compatible with Serge , Fenix (which it looks a lot
>like..), Synton & Modcan modulars .owners might like to check out the
>fascinating conglomeration of modules at:
> tecnotoys.com/mikado/FrontPanel
> or: technotoys.com/mikado
> best
> SonicSynthi
>p.s. nice little site too
>
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Re: mikado madness

2002-04-08 by C. Whitten

> owners might like to check out the
> fascinating conglomeration of modules at:
> tecnotoys.com/mikado/FrontPanel

Wow, it certainly looks excellent.
It amazes me the great products being thought up by one or two man
operations at the moment. Thanks 'synthi' for that tip off.
Looks like it's going to be (justifiably) expensive. Any projections as to
price yet?
CW
p.s. I took Eric's slight against Brit businessmen as a light hearted dig.
Don't take offence.

Re: mikado madness

2002-04-08 by Jim Johnson

>Looks like it's going to be (justifiably) expensive. Any projections as to
>price yet?

We don't know yet. The front panel is frigging expensive, though - about
250 Euros (something over $200). Other components still need to be priced.

Jim

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On 4/8/02 at 9:25 AM C. Whitten wrote:

>> owners might like to check out the
>> fascinating conglomeration of modules at:
>> tecnotoys.com/mikado/FrontPanel
>Wow, it certainly looks excellent.
>It amazes me the great products being thought up by one or two man
>operations at the moment. Thanks 'synthi' for that tip off.
>Looks like it's going to be (justifiably) expensive. Any projections as to
>price yet?
>CW
>p.s. I took Eric's slight against Brit businessmen as a light hearted dig.
>Don't take offence.
>
>
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Metaphoric Software
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Software for Electronic Music
http://www.technotoys.com
info@...

Re: mikado madness

2002-04-08 by Kirk Degiorgio

I hope you guys get it into production - I'm very interested! I have a TKB
but I think this system would add a whole lot more to my Serge system.

Banana jacks too! Neat design - wonderful 'musical' features like the chord
quantising, etc.

Bring it on!

(and no Celtic squiggles to be seen..... ;-))

KD

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> >Looks like it's going to be (justifiably) expensive. Any projections as

> >price yet?
>
> We don't know yet. The front panel is frigging expensive, though - about
> 250 Euros (something over $200). Other components still need to be priced.
>
> Jim
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> On 4/8/02 at 9:25 AM C. Whitten wrote:
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> >> owners might like to check out the
> >> fascinating conglomeration of modules at:
> >> tecnotoys.com/mikado/FrontPanel
> >Wow, it certainly looks excellent.
> >It amazes me the great products being thought up by one or two man
> >operations at the moment. Thanks 'synthi' for that tip off.
> >Looks like it's going to be (justifiably) expensive. Any projections as

> >price yet?
> >CW
> >p.s. I took Eric's slight against Brit businessmen as a light hearted

dig.

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Re: mikado madness

2002-04-08 by M. Blake Wilson

Kirk Degiorgio wrote:

I hope you guys get it into production - I'm very interested! I have a TKB
but I think this system would add a whole lot more to my Serge system.
Banana jacks too! Neat design - wonderful 'musical' features like the chord
quantising, etc.
Bring it on!
hear, hear! just for fun, i'm wondering what a hardware production of the mikado might cost. it does a lot of what a tkb will do (but with far fewer programmable steps, i might add) AND what the ARP sequencer does and soo, soooooooooo much more. you get your boolean module, midi, dividers, built in clock, etc... with a tkb at $1500, i imagine (roughly; super roughly) that units could move for around $2500, give or take a couple hundred. more than that, and its into that boutique realm that means sales of, say, 10 units.
am i way off base here, jim? please school me on the realities b/c i'm surely fantasizing!
b.

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Re: mikado madness

2002-04-08 by Kirk Degiorgio

"i imagine (roughly; super roughly) that units could move for around $2500"

I truly hope not....

Re: mikado madness

2002-04-08 by C. Whitten

Is that a wild guestimate?
$2,500 is a lot for a sequencer. I know it does a lot of other things.
Actually I was thinking that $200+ wasn't bad for the facia, especially
considering the amount of modules.
Upside: no weird artwork.
Downside: named after a Victorian comic opera.
Looks superb anyway!
CW

Re: mikado madness

2002-04-08 by M. Blake Wilson

Kirk Degiorgio wrote:

"i imagine (roughly; super roughly) that units could move for around $2500" I truly hope not.... KD
i hope not too; however, thats an awful lot of point to point wiring, lots of jacks, switches, etc. i know that much of the logic isn't too difficult, tho.
and i'm basing my hypothetical price on serge standards (i.e. boolean, clocks, dividers, etc). also, the thing looks like it would be about 8 rack spaces, minimum. big product.
b.
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Re: mikado madness

2002-04-10 by Simon

Wouldn't you want the knobs at the top?

They will get lost under a mess of patchcords.

Simon
Canberra
AUSTRALIA

Re: mikado madness

2002-04-10 by Jim Johnson

>Wouldn't you want the knobs at the top?
>
>They will get lost under a mess of patchcords.

Well, my initial plan was that I'd place this below my Fenix/Serge, and
then all of the patch cords would be clustered together. But now I'm having
second thoughts, and wondering if I want to place it in a cabinet beside
the Fenix.

Since we're offering this as a DIY system, if someone chooses to use the
Schaffer layout, they can rearrange the front panel as needed. In fact I
may give that a try to see how it looks in the config you suggested -

Jim Johnson
Metaphoric Software
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Makers of Techno Toys
Software for Electronic Music
http://www.technotoys.com
info@...

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On 4/10/02 at 7:42 PM Simon wrote:

>Wouldn't you want the knobs at the top?
>
>They will get lost under a mess of patchcords.
>
>
>Simon
>Canberra
>AUSTRALIA
>
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Re: mikado madness

2002-04-10 by Les Mizzell

> >Wouldn't you want the knobs at the top?
> >
> >They will get lost under a mess of patchcords.

Hmmmm.....my thoughts would put the knobs BOTTOM and connections top. I
consider this to be a controller, just like my keyboard, so it would sit in
front of the main panels so I could "play" the knobs. The patch cables would
be out of the way snaking up to the module cabinet if they're located mostly
towards the back...

My current other "performance" sequencer being considered, the Serge TKB,
has the connections at the back...just where I'd want them.

Les Mizzell

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