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2002-03-15 by Les Mizzell

Afternoon,

Could someone answer a few (stupid) questions, or just correct my
assumptions, about the TKB that just aren't apparent from reading the stuff
on EGRES?

OK, I think you can get:

A. four 16-step sequences going at once
B. two 32-step sequences going at once
C. one 64 step sequence
D. Lots of weird random/ switching between 4 layers/forwards backwards
stuff...

1. While sequences are running, can you also use the keypad to control other
functions, or is the keypad tied to the sequencer so they can't operate
independently?

2. Anybody got an idea as to the lead time for a new one?

3. What voltage(s) does it expect for power?

4. What's the penalty for shooting the person responsible for:
http://www.doepfer.com/home_e.htm
(This constitutes a joke and is no way intended to be a "real and present
danger" type threat that could be misconstrued by the legal community in any
way. For entertainment purposes only. Any resemblance to a living or
deceased person, on this planet or any other, is purely unintentional.
Objects may be closer than they appear. Contents may have settled during
shipping)

Thanks!

Les Mizzell

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"I wonder if other dogs think
poodles are members of a weird
religious cult." -- Rita Rudner
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Re: TKB Questions

2002-03-15 by John Papiewski

Two 32-step sequences?? I don't think so, not without a CMX and a divide-by-2
using NCOM or PDIV. Am I missing something?

There's a switch labeled "KEYBOARD" for turning the keyboard connection to the
sequencer off. When it's off the touchkeys still control KP (key pulse) and KV
(key voltage), not to mention pressure. HOWEVER - if you have the seq patched
for a sequence length of 2 to 15 touching the keypad does affect the sequencer -
at least on mine (1997) - it changes the sequence starting stage.

It takes the same power as the rest of the Serge, +/- 10KVDC @ 20A. Remember,
most of the power goes to the hydraulic pumps and cooling fans.
(Would you believe +/- 12vdc?)

JP

Les Mizzell wrote:

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> Afternoon,
>
> Could someone answer a few (stupid) questions, or just correct my
> assumptions, about the TKB that just aren't apparent from reading the stuff
> on EGRES?
>
> OK, I think you can get:
>
> A. four 16-step sequences going at once
> B. two 32-step sequences going at once
> C. one 64 step sequence
> D. Lots of weird random/ switching between 4 layers/forwards backwards
> stuff...
>
> 1. While sequences are running, can you also use the keypad to control other
> functions, or is the keypad tied to the sequencer so they can't operate
> independently?
>
> 2. Anybody got an idea as to the lead time for a new one?
>
> 3. What voltage(s) does it expect for power?
>
> 4. What's the penalty for shooting the person responsible for:
> http://www.doepfer.com/home_e.htm
> (This constitutes a joke and is no way intended to be a "real and present
> danger" type threat that could be misconstrued by the legal community in any
> way. For entertainment purposes only. Any resemblance to a living or
> deceased person, on this planet or any other, is purely unintentional.
> Objects may be closer than they appear. Contents may have settled during
> shipping)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Les Mizzell
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> "I wonder if other dogs think
> poodles are members of a weird
> religious cult." -- Rita Rudner
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> Keep on Patchin'!
>
>
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Re: TKB Questions

2002-03-15 by Diaz, Jesus, M.D.

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Mizzell [mailto:lesmizz@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 1:10 PM
To: SergeModular@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [SergeModular] TKB Questions

Afternoon,

Could someone answer a few (stupid) questions, or just correct my
assumptions, about the TKB that just aren't apparent from reading the stuff
on EGRES?

OK, I think you can get:

A. four 16-step sequences going at once
B. two 32-step sequences going at once
C. one 64 step sequence
D. Lots of weird random/ switching between 4 layers/forwards backwards
stuff...

1. While sequences are running, can you also use the keypad to control other
functions, or is the keypad tied to the sequencer so they can't operate
independently?

2. Anybody got an idea as to the lead time for a new one?

3. What voltage(s) does it expect for power?

4. What's the penalty for shooting the person responsible for:
http://www.doepfer.com/home_e.htm
(This constitutes a joke and is no way intended to be a "real and present
danger" type threat that could be misconstrued by the legal community in any
way. For entertainment purposes only. Any resemblance to a living or
deceased person, on this planet or any other, is purely unintentional.
Objects may be closer than they appear. Contents may have settled during
shipping)

ADD TO THIS: NO ANIMALS WERE HARMED DURING THE TYPING OF THIS MESSAGE. PRICE
AND AVAILABILITY MAY VARY. TAX, TITLE AND LICENSE INCLUDED.
cuari

Thanks!

Les Mizzell

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"I wonder if other dogs think
poodles are members of a weird
religious cult." -- Rita Rudner
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Re: TKB Questions

2002-03-16 by ringmod45

--- In SergeModular@y..., "Les Mizzell" <lesmizz@b...> wrote:

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> Afternoon,
>
> Could someone answer a few (stupid) questions, or just correct my
> assumptions, about the TKB that just aren't apparent from reading

the stuff

> on EGRES?

write or email STS to get a catalogue or buy the Rich Gold book, so
you can see the tkb properly. the Egres image of the tkb looks pretty
good to me. by looking at the lay-out you should be able to determine
the functions it can do, pretty straight foward and no voodoo
involved.

>
> OK, I think you can get:
>
> A. four 16-step sequences going at once
> B. two 32-step sequences going at once
> C. one 64 step sequence
> D. Lots of weird random/ switching between 4 layers/forwards

backwards

> stuff...
>
> 1. While sequences are running, can you also use the keypad to

control other

> functions, or is the keypad tied to the sequencer so they can't

operate

> independently?
>
> 2. Anybody got an idea as to the lead time for a new one?
>
> 3. What voltage(s) does it expect for power?
>
> 4. What's the penalty for shooting the person responsible for:
> http://www.doepfer.com/home_e.htm
> (This constitutes a joke and is no way intended to be a "real and

present

> danger" type threat that could be misconstrued by the legal

community in any

> way. For entertainment purposes only. Any resemblance to a living or
> deceased person, on this planet or any other, is purely

unintentional.

> Objects may be closer than they appear. Contents may have settled

during

> shipping)

i hear what you are saying about touch capacitance, but an lfo is an
lfo , an eg is an eg etc. nobody owns a patent on capacitance, it was
being used in other fields before modular synthesis even existed. if
you are copying circuits, then that's a whole other ball game. i
think what Doepfer is attempting to do is good for the modular
community at large. i have not seen any new ideas come from Serge or
any other manufacturer except for the Encore Electronics UEG and the
Wiard Wobblebug,Borg filter and Waveform city modules. most of the
modular stuff being produced is a different variation on existing
circuits or principles. where are the fresh ideas that led to the
wave multipliers and Marfs etc. how about some new and revolutionary
ways to bend the line between the past and the future. oh well, let's
keep our collective hopes up and wait to see what the future holds. i
will say once and i will say it again, let's innovate and come up
with new and interesting ways to accomplish functions that were
previously unavailable to us before, so we can get to the new
plateaus that await us.
cheers,
RM.

>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Les Mizzell
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> "I wonder if other dogs think
> poodles are members of a weird
> religious cult." -- Rita Rudner
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Re: TKB Questions

2002-03-17 by Bill Felton

One thing worthy of note on the TKB -- its 'reset' input is one of the few,
if not only, inputs on the Serge which can safely gang inputs.
Once upon a time the TKB had two reset inputs, but no physical switch
to control forward/reverse step direction. Rex modified the design to
incorporate the switch at the cost of the second reset input. When I
talked to him about this, he assured me that one could indeed stack two
or more stage outputs into the reset jack.
What this allows is for two or more subsequences to be created on the
TKB. Patch, for instance, stage 5 and stage 15 into the reset. Start the
sequencer. It will run from 1 to 4 and reset. Now touch pad 6 and it
will begin cycling from 6 to 14. Touch any pad below 4 and the
cycle begins on that stage and resets at 5. Touch any pad above 6 but
below 14 and it resets to that stage as the start point, and cycles at 15.
This is, for me, one of the coolest aspects of the TKB.
Note, however, that stacking outputs is, in general, a very bad idea on the
Serge. This just happens to be an exception. (My guess is that it is
because it would be impossible for both inputs to go high at the same time,
but that's only a guess.)

cheers,
Bill

Re: TKB Questions

2002-03-17 by Bill Felton

D'oh. Of course I mean "one of the few inputs which can safely gang
outputs".
Sigh.

Bill

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> One thing worthy of note on the TKB -- its 'reset' input is one of the
few,
> if not only, inputs on the Serge which can safely gang inputs.
> Once upon a time the TKB had two reset inputs, but no physical switch
> to control forward/reverse step direction. Rex modified the design to
> incorporate the switch at the cost of the second reset input. When I
> talked to him about this, he assured me that one could indeed stack two
> or more stage outputs into the reset jack.
> What this allows is for two or more subsequences to be created on the
> TKB. Patch, for instance, stage 5 and stage 15 into the reset. Start the
> sequencer. It will run from 1 to 4 and reset. Now touch pad 6 and it
> will begin cycling from 6 to 14. Touch any pad below 4 and the
> cycle begins on that stage and resets at 5. Touch any pad above 6 but
> below 14 and it resets to that stage as the start point, and cycles at 15.
> This is, for me, one of the coolest aspects of the TKB.
> Note, however, that stacking outputs is, in general, a very bad idea on
the
> Serge. This just happens to be an exception. (My guess is that it is
> because it would be impossible for both inputs to go high at the same
time,
> but that's only a guess.)
>
> cheers,
> Bill
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> SergeModular-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Keep on Patchin'!
>
>
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>
>
>

Re: TKB Questions

2002-03-17 by John Papiewski

Well, this is very cool... I do remember reading something about being able to
set TKB to do strange multiple sequences; at the time I got the wrong idea and
dismissed it as some strange fantasy interpretation of TKB abilities. But this
describes it quite clearly. This could be quite useful in live performance.

Thanks

John P.

Bill Felton wrote:

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> What this allows is for two or more subsequences to be created on the
> TKB. Patch, for instance, stage 5 and stage 15 into the reset. Start the
> sequencer. It will run from 1 to 4 and reset. Now touch pad 6 and it
> will begin cycling from 6 to 14. Touch any pad below 4 and the
> cycle begins on that stage and resets at 5. Touch any pad above 6 but
> below 14 and it resets to that stage as the start point, and cycles at 15.
> This is, for me, one of the coolest aspects of the TKB.