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Re: Soft Sync + Linear FM

2009-02-20 by roelelec

I did!?

Then I must really getting the hang of it.
I advise you to do the same as me.
Immediately write down the patch connection,
when the TGO transforms into other kind of module.

But I wonder do the left black signal in only work for left and the
other for right? Or can they work for both, when both are used?
Cause I noticed that despite the fact, that when you don't switch the
trigger, the right part still works, although the green light doesn't
work. The green light burns as soon as you flick the trigger!
This means that the left part can work on his one, the right part two
and the can both work as one body!

From the things you mention, I must have turned it into
audio oscillator (that's the obvious one) lfo (I even turned the
variable Q filter into an lfo) AD and sub-osc. so far.
And as I wrote before, in conjunction with the other osc.'s I even
managed to get a pretty complex rhythm with the TGO, despite the fact
that the SSG is more the obvious candidate.

Talkign about the SSG. It can do a lot too. I have turned it into
a triangle wave lfo, a exp. or linear vca and probably a AR or
something like that.

You to have fun with it.

Cheers,

Roel

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "kkonkkrete" <kkonkkrete@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Eureka. You've solved it.
>
> I think it's pretty much the densest and most complex 'module' on
any
> modular system I know of. Each half can be LFO, AD, ASD, low-pass
> gate, slew limiter, audio oscillator, trigger delay, envelope
> follower, sub-oscillator / pulse divider, and probably some other
> things I've forgotten too.
>
> Have fun...
>
>
> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "roelelec" <r.steverink@>
wrote:
> >
> > Something struck me about the arrows.
> > I think I have it now. The arrow points in the direction which
part
> > it corresponds with. So the left side works with the signal in
left
> > pointed arrow and the right pointed arrow with the right part.
> > Or is it more complicated?
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
> > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > i forgot:
> > > black audio ins:
> > >
> > > also, input a gate there, to create an ASR envelope instead of
an
> > AR envelope that the TG 'normally' is.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > >
> > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > >
> > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > >
> > > www. shimarecords. co. uk
> > >
> > > www. rubberrecords. gr
> > >
> > > Athens - Greece
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 2/20/09, roelelec <r.steverink@> wrote:
> > > From: roelelec <r.steverink@>
> > > Subject: [SergeModular] Re: Soft Sync + Linear FM
> > > To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:39 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's something I haven't tried yet.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip.
> > >
> > > I will try this, cause I'm also very curious how much it
> > >
> > > differs/matches the soft sync effect of the other osc's.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Timegen osc is still a puzzle to me.
> > >
> > > I don't remember how I patched it (I'm gonna note these
findings
> > >
> > > carefully down from now on) but a couple of times turning the
rise
> > >
> > > knob revealed only a small area of frequenties, just if the
right
> > >
> > > part was transformed in a notch filter or something?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I also haven't the faintest idea what the signal in's (in the
> > middle)
> > >
> > > can be used for?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Roel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com, "kkonkkrete"
> > <kkonkkrete@ ...>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > If I remember correctly, you can get some (roughly) hard-sync
> > style
> > >
> > > > effects using your timegen osc, or more generally any of the
> > slope /
> > >
> > > > transient generator variants. Use the trigger switch to make
the
> > >
> > > > right half self trigger (oscillate). Now patch the gate out
of
> > the
> > >
> > > > left half into the trig in of the right half. I think you
should
> > >
> > > now
> > >
> > > > have the right oscillator re-triggered by the left
oscillator.
> > Mess
> > >
> > > > with frequency offsets. Instant razorblade cocktail. Just
don't
> > >
> > > cut
> > >
> > > > yourself.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > --- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com, "roelelec"
<r.steverink@ >
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Yeah I know what sync is, that it eliminates the beating
when
> > two
> > >
> > > > > osc's frequenties are locked in together. It's the way of
> > getting
> > >
> > > > > razor sharp sounds in stead of the more organic, floating
> > sounds
> > >
> > > like
> > >
> > > > > f.e. strings.
> > >
> > > > > But is soft syc then only the soft variant of hard sync?
I'm no
> > >
> > > > > technician. I'm interested and very much like to know.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Cause I reckon soft sync must have more uses that only
> > >
> > > eliminating
> > >
> > > > > the beating. Why otherwise did Serge include soft sync in
his
> > >
> > > osc's
> > >
> > > > > and not the so favourable hard sync? Which are the secrets?
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Thanks for the info on the waveforms!
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Roel
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > --- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com, John P <johnp299792@
>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > soft sync is used when you want two or more oscillators
to
> > >
> > > track
> > >
> > > > > > together, in sync, *without* beating.
> > >
> > > > > > If you patch two oscillators from, say, your SSG Stepped
Out
> > >
> > > into
> > >
> > > > > their
> > >
> > > > > > 1V/Oct inputs, they will track together, but no matter
how
> > well
> > >
> > > you
> > >
> > > > > tune
> > >
> > > > > > them, there will be some beating, and the beating will
change
> > >
> > > as
> > >
> > > > > the
> > >
> > > > > > pitch input changes. Patching the Sawtooth of one into
the
> > >
> > > Sync of
> > >
> > > > > the
> > >
> > > > > > other one will eliminate this beating, if the Osc's are
tuned
> > >
> > > > > closely to
> > >
> > > > > > begin with.
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > roelelec wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > My question is: what's the use of soft sync in general?
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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