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From: Bill Sequeira <bill@...>
LOL!
Never pictured you in the fridge business but it makes sense. ;-)I have tried over the years to design a portable case and the showstopper has always been shock absorption. I concluded that I could have a lightweight case that required a heavy duty case for travel.I guess it depends on how you view your system and cases in general - cases are either for transportation/ protection or the case becomes an inherent part of the instrument. Think both views work together, but neither one can optimally supplant the other.
Regards,Bill____________ _________ _________ _________ ___Bill Sequeira, PHD - PrincipalAxon Hillock - http://www.axonhill ock.com/
On Jan 29, 2007, at 8:55 PM, darkstr1746@ comcast.net wrote:
another option would be to contact Maxxline cases in Wilsonville Oregon. they make custom cases for just about every application imaginable. At one time they made me a custom case that housed a PS 6 and four panels complete with wiring harness. the PS was mounted to the bottome of the case and the back cover had recessed telescoping handle and the whole thing had wheels on the back. It was pretty cool. It was also a total pig. The case weighed at least four tijmes that of the panels and the PS combined. It was also more than double the depth of the panels. It looked like a small refrigerator. I really dug it although it was totaly absurd. I used it for about a year. there are no pictures of it. I was too embarassed to take pictures. everyone laughed and i don't blame them.so save your self a bunch of money and just wrap the panels up in a beach towel and carry the PS in a suitcase. You'll be glad you did. LOLjohn d------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -From: Bill Sequeira <bill@axonhillock. com>Thank you - will try to upload some more pics in a couple of daysshowing how the panels fit together and the side foam.I agree that fixing the panels to the case would create too much of ashock transfer risk.On the other hand, portable in the Serge worlds means "portable". Iwould never think of it as traveling with a briefcase. :-)Even my animoo/tkb combo is substantial once you add psu etc.I use a plain old canvas suitcase that is slightly bigger than theZero when I need to move it, to prevent any unnecessary scratches.But if I was in a traveling band using the Serge, I would invest inan ATA case custom designed for the Zero - OR, have one customdesigned to rack mount the panels. I love the look of the Zero so Idid not entertain that option.Regards,Bill____________ _________ _________ _________ ___Bill Sequeira, PHD - PrincipalAxon Hillock - http://www.axonhill ock.com/On Jan 29, 2007, at 6:34 AM, riluttante wrote:--- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com, Bill Sequeira <bill@...> wrote:There is an (older) picture of my system in Kevin Lightner's siteunder Serge StationHumble when compared to the Fist of God at its glorious peak.Looks greatI designed the stand so that the system could function as a studiosystem that could be split into a portable 8-panel system in a Zerocase if I wanted to travel with it.You probably never took the 8-panel system on an airplane though,right?Since then the system has grown to a total of 16 panels, but ended upcreating a mini-system out of a mod'ed animal/TKB, so now the standis back to supporting 14-panels as in the picture.The Zero case system began its life as a 6-panel. The trick (perRex's design) was to use thick foam to go around and in-betweenthe 3-panels per side, the foam being a bit wider than the actual case (butnot much) in order to create mechanical tension on the panel sides.Right, that's what he suggested to me too. He'd basically squeezethe panels in with foamon all sides, and have the power harness run below/beside the panels.He didn't want to fix the panels to the case directly using screwsetc. because shocks tothe case would mechanically transfer to the circuit boards thatway, and presumably causemore damage than when the panels are simply held in place by blocksof foam.When I upgraded to 8-panels I did away with the horizontal foambetween the modules and added a layer of non-slip rubber betweenpanels to both protect and create pressure to keep the panels intight.Mechanically it works OK as long as you are not attaching a bananacable to your truck's winch, although it is not quite as stable as ifyou were actually rackmounting the panels.You do have to be careful with the distro cards - if you have toomany oscillator panels that have two connectors (instead of theaverage one) you may require more than two distro cards - I was luckyand my configuration needed exactly two.Can upload more pics if any one is interested.If you have a chance, I'd love to see some more detailed pics ofthe "travel" system and ofhow the panels were/are mounted inside the case.Thanks!ThomasRegards,Bill____________ _________ _________ _________ ___Bill Sequeira, PHD - PrincipalAxon Hillock - http://www.axonhill ock.com/On Jan 28, 2007, at 11:19 AM, darkstr1746@ ... wrote:I'm not understanding why you can't do four panels in a case likethe one pictured at the link shown. I had a case like the oneshown. . .hell, that might even be a picture of the system i had atone time. It was an elegant solution although six panels was alittle heavy and not all that protable. Four panels in that stylecase should be just the thing. I'm also not understanding the depthproblem unless your panels were not built with "transit" stylechassis in which case your out of luck. Period. Three panels willfit into a popup Gator case with the wiring harness ( if yourclever with mounting screws) but that doesn't solve your four panelproblem. Keep searching for a Zero. . you'll find one sooner orlater. . . much later. LOLkind regardsjohn duval------------ -- Original message ------------ --From: "riluttante" <riluttante@. ..>That's the only picture I know of too.I spent a lot of time looking at Zero Halliburton specs and talkingto Rex at STS abouthaving my four-panel system mounted inside one of these cases.My idea was to put two panels in each half (like on the six-panelpicture, which has threepanels per half), but very few, if any, of these cases have halves(shells) of equal depth.My requirements were to fit the four panels in a case no largerthan the IATA standards forairplane carry-on baggage. I expect to travel with my systemregularly, and there's no wayI'm checking it in. We couldn't find a case to fit four panelswithout being unnecessarilylarge though.I'd be curious to see what your friend comes up with. I still findthese Zero Halliburtoncases a very elegant solution.Thomas--- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com, JB <ringmodulator@> wrote:Is this what you're after?2007/1/25, Rick <echo7even@>:trying to help a friend figure this out.any pics would be helpfulthanks-rKeep on Patchin'!Yahoo! Groups LinksKeep on Patchin'!Yahoo! Groups LinksKeep on Patchin'!Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:<*> Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:(Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:From: Bill Sequeira <bill@axonhillock. com>Date: January 29, 2007 6:39:25 PM PSTSubject: Re: [SergeModular] Re: Looking for pics of serge mounted in Zero caseThank you - will try to upload some more pics in a couple of days
showing how the panels fit together and the side foam.
I agree that fixing the panels to the case would create too much of a
shock transfer risk.
On the other hand, portable in the Serge worlds means "portable". I
would never think of it as traveling with a briefcase. :-)
Even my animoo/tkb combo is substantial once you add psu etc.
I use a plain old canvas suitcase that is slightly bigger than the
Zero when I need to move it, to prevent any unnecessary scratches.
But if I was in a traveling band using the Serge, I would invest in
an ATA case custom designed for the Zero - OR, have one custom
designed to rack mount the panels. I love the look of the Zero so I
did not entertain that option.
Regards,
Bill
____________ _________ _________ _________ ___
Bill Sequeira, PHD - Principal
Axon Hillock - < A href="http://www.axonhillock.com/">http://www.axonhill ock.com/
On Jan 29, 2007, at 6:34 AM, riluttante wrote:
> --- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com, Bill Sequeira <bill@...> wrote:
>>
>> There is an (older) picture of my system in Kevin Lightner's site
>> under Serge Station
>>
>> http://www.synthfoo l.com/sequeira. html
>>
>> Humble when compared to the Fist of God at its glorious peak.
>
> Looks great
>>
>> I designed the stand so that the system could function as a studio
>> system that could be split into a portable 8-panel system in a Zero
>> case if I wanted to travel with it.
>
> You probably never took the 8-panel system on an airplane though,
> right?
>> ;
>> Since then the system has grown to a total of 16 panels, but ended up
>> creating a mini-system out of a mod'ed animal/TKB, so now the stand
>> is back to supporting 14-panels as in the picture.
>>
>> The Zero case system began its life as a 6-panel. The trick (per
>> Rex's design) was to use thick foam to go around and in-between
>> the 3-
>> panels per side, the foam being a bit wider than the actual case (but
>> not much) in order to create mechanical tension on the panel sides.
>
> Right, that's what he suggested to me too. He'd basically squeeze
> the panels in with foam
> on all sides, and have the power harness run below/beside the panels.
>
> He didn't want to fix the panels to the case directly using screws
> etc. because shocks to
> the case would mechanically transfer to the circuit boards that
> way, and presumably cause
> more damage than when the panels are simply held in place by blocks
> of foam.
>
>>
>> When I upgraded to 8-panels I did away with the horizontal foam
>> between the modules and added a layer of non-slip rubber between
>> panels to both protect and create pressure to keep the panels in
>> tight.
>>
>> Mechanically it works OK as long as you are not attaching a banana
>> cable to your truck's winch, although it is not quite as stable as if
>> you were actually rackmounting the panels.
>>
>> You do have to be careful with the distro cards - if you have too
>> many oscillator panels that have two connectors (instead of the
>> average one) you may require more than two distro cards - I was lucky
>> and my configuration needed exactly two.
>>
>> Can upload more pics if any one is interested.
>
> If you have a chance, I 'd love to see some more detailed pics of
> the "travel" system and of
> how the panels were/are mounted inside the case.
>
> Thanks!
> Thomas
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bill
>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ ___
>> Bill Sequeira, PHD - Principal
>> Axon Hillock - http://www.axonhill ock.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2007, at 11:19 AM, darkstr1746@ ... wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not understanding why you can't do four panels in a case like
>>> the one pictured at the link shown. I had a case like the one
>>> shown. . .hell, that might even be a picture of the system i had at
>>> one time. It was an elegant solution although six panels was a
>>> little heavy and not al l that protable. Four panels in that style
>>> case should be just the thing. I'm also not understanding the depth
>>> problem unless your panels were not built with "transit" style
>>> chassis in which case your out of luck. Period. Three panels will
>>> fit into a popup Gator case with the wiring harness ( if your
>>> clever with mounting screws) but that doesn't solve your four panel
>>> problem. Keep searching for a Zero. . you'll find one sooner or
>>> later. . . much later. LOL
>>> kind regards
>>> john duval
>>>
>>> ------------ -- Original message ------------ --
>>> From: "riluttante" <riluttante@ ...>
>>> http://home. att.net/~ djaux/Image28. gif
>>> That's the only picture I know of too.>>>
>>> I spent a lot of time looking at Zero Halliburton specs and talking
>>> to Rex at STS about
>>> having my four-panel system mounted inside one of these cases.
>>> My idea was to put two panels in each half (like on the six-panel
>>> picture, which has three
>>> panels per half), but very few, if any, of these cases have halves
>>> (shells) of equal depth.
>>> My requirements were to fit the four panels in a case no larger
>>> than the IATA standards for
>>> airplane carry-on baggage. I expect to travel with my system
>>> regularly, and there's no way
>>> I'm checking it in. We couldn't find a case to fit four panels
>>> without being unnecessarily
>>> large though.
>>> I'd be curious to see what your friend comes up with. I still find
>>> these Zero Halliburton
>>&g t; cases a very elegant solution.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> --- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com, JB <ringmodulator@ > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this what you're after?
>>>> http://home. att.net/~ djaux/Image28. gif
>>>>
>>>> 2007/1/25, Rick <echo7even@> :
>>>>> trying to help a friend figure this out.
>>>>>
>>>>> any pics would be helpful
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> -r
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep on Patchin'!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>
>> ;>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> Keep on Patchin'!
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Looking for pics of serge mounted in Zero case
2007-01-31 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
yea, the guys in the band would tell me to cool it. . . so i did. It was embarassing. The horror of it all was that it was supposed to be a practical means of moving a four panel system around and it wound up taking up most of the back of my Jeep Cherokee and to top it off i could hardly lift the thing by myself. Four panels and a PS don't really weight all that much and by the time i had implemented my "solution" it was a thirty five pound awkward fridge. I was so bummed. Did it look cool? you bet! was it stupid?. . . hahaha you bet! Thank God i went back to something practical like the guitar. LOL
kind regards
john
