All about the Roland Jupiter-series

-----Original Message-----
From: david [mailto:dj.suurland@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 1:09 AM
To: analogue@...
Subject: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?


hi there,
well like i said i got my jupiter 8 yesterday and i've been fiddling with it
quite a bit, the Bb5 key is suddenly working again (which doesnt mean its
fixed, rather it can fail again at any given time probably when its most
unconvenient) but i've got a question.
is it me or is the jup8 not all its said to be. now dont get me wrong i
bought it cheap and was planning to sell it to make a buck to put in my
"cs-80 savings account", i didnt expect anything in particular but after
cheking the internet and seeing al the hype i got hyped myself too. anywyz,
i love the strings, cross mod is cool too and it can make some huge sounds
too, good enough.
but i cant seem to produce a decent lead, and when im programming i seem to
run into the same sounds pretty often even though im trying all kinds of
different modulations.
what am i doing wrong.?? is the jup8 limited to a certain spectrum or am i
beeing a dork, i know my way around a z1 pretty ok, so i dont think i lack
imagination when it comes down to trying new ways of making noise. any
ideas ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Enmach@... [mailto:Enmach@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 7:07 AM
To: dj.suurland@...; analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?


In a message dated 3/24/01 7:05:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dj.suurland@... writes:

<< but i cant seem to produce a decent lead,

try approximating one of your previously existing decent leads on the JP8;
perhaps there are certain techniques you are used to from your own synths
that you've yet to try on the 8.

>

Also, so you can hear what kinds of lead the 8 is capable of, try digging up

a Devo tune called "Theme from 'Doctor Detroit'". This was a dumb 80s flick

w/Dan Ackroyd and Howard Hesseman. There's a lead line that sounds a lot
like a lap steel guitar which is reputedly Mark Mothersbough twiddling that
left hand controller section. Never mind these italics, I don't know how
that happened. Also, most of Devo's NEW TRADITIONALISTS was done on JP8 and

Moog Source, so there's some other (admittedly dated) points of reference.

PAT

-----Original Message-----
From: royce [mailto:rrooyyccee@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:14 AM
To: david; analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?


I don't think you are imagining what you are noticing.
The jp8 doesn't cover every sound all that well, and
I actually find myself using the jp6 a bit more.
"Lead" probably means different things to different
people. . . but I do notice that for monophonic parts,
many monosynths in general seem to do a little better
than the jp8.

These may be empty suggestions but keeping the
resonance low, using the 12dB filter, using unison
with a very good analogue chorus, and using tube
saturation bring out some of the 8's strengths. I
find the juptier 8's strength doesn't really lie in
its flexibility, but in the overall character of its
sounds, which you may or may not like.

royce

--- david <dj.suurland@...> wrote:

> hi there,
> well like i said i got my jupiter 8 yesterday and
> i've been fiddling with it quite a bit, the Bb5 key
> is suddenly working again (which doesnt mean its
> fixed, rather it can fail again at any given time
> probably when its most unconvenient) but i've got a
> question.
> is it me or is the jup8 not all its said to be. now
> dont get me wrong i bought it cheap and was planning
> to sell it to make a buck to put in my "cs-80
> savings account", i didnt expect anything in
> particular but after cheking the internet and seeing
> al the hype i got hyped myself too. anywyz, i love
> the strings, cross mod is cool too and it can make
> some huge sounds too, good enough.
> but i cant seem to produce a decent lead, and when
> im programming i seem to run into the same sounds
> pretty often even though im trying all kinds of
> different modulations.
> what am i doing wrong.?? is the jup8 limited to a
> certain spectrum or am i beeing a dork, i know my
> way around a z1 pretty ok, so i dont think i lack
> imagination when it comes down to trying new ways of
> making noise. any ideas ?
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: MoogIIIc@... [mailto:MoogIIIc@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Enmach@...; analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?


In a message dated 3/24/01 10:07:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
Enmach@... writes:

<< Also, so you can hear what kinds of lead the 8 is capable of, try digging

up
a Devo tune called "Theme from 'Doctor Detroit'". This was a dumb 80s
flick
w/Dan Ackroyd and Howard Hesseman. >>

It may have been a dumb flick, but I laughed my A** off for the whole
time...
makes me wanna go rent it again just for the yucks !!!

Markk

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Crosskey [mailto:chris.crosskey@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 2:39 PM
To: analogue@...
Subject: RE: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?


I'd have thought the Upe's envelopes were a bit slow for leads...it's forte
has always been pads....IMHO anyway.....if you want a decent polysynth that
does good leads (especially if you stack the voices) get a Cheetah MS6......

chrisc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: david [mailto:dj.suurland@...]
> Sent: 25 March 2001 00:09
> To: analogue@...
> Subject: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?
>
>
> hi there,
> well like i said i got my jupiter 8 yesterday and i've been
> fiddling with it quite a bit, the Bb5 key is suddenly working
> again (which doesnt mean its fixed, rather it can fail again
> at any given time probably when its most unconvenient) but
> i've got a question.
> is it me or is the jup8 not all its said to be. now dont get
> me wrong i bought it cheap and was planning to sell it to
> make a buck to put in my "cs-80 savings account", i didnt
> expect anything in particular but after cheking the internet
> and seeing al the hype i got hyped myself too. anywyz, i love
> the strings, cross mod is cool too and it can make some huge
> sounds too, good enough.
> but i cant seem to produce a decent lead, and when im
> programming i seem to run into the same sounds pretty often
> even though im trying all kinds of different modulations.
> what am i doing wrong.?? is the jup8 limited to a certain
> spectrum or am i beeing a dork, i know my way around a z1
> pretty ok, so i dont think i lack imagination when it comes
> down to trying new ways of making noise. any ideas ?
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Marzzz@... [mailto:Marzzz@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 5:06 PM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?



In a message dated 3/25/01 5:13:04 AM, MoogIIIc@... writes:

>a Devo tune called "Theme from 'Doctor Detroit'". This was a dumb 80s
>flick w/Dan Ackroyd and Howard Hesseman.
>
>It may have been a dumb flick, but I laughed my A** off for the whole

time...

>makes me wanna go rent it again just for the yucks !!!

The closing credits promised a "Doctor Detroit II: The Wrath of Mom." I wish

they had filmed it, Doctor Detroit was one of those great dumb movies. Even
Fran Drescher (The Nanny- yech!) was funny in it.

-Marshall