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FW: [AH] jp6 preop

2001-01-05 by Verschut, Ricardo

-----Original Message-----
From: sweetness [mailto:digitallucid@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 8:48 PM
To: analogue@...
Subject: [AH] jp6 preop


hello.

i just got a jp6 in the mail.. its in minty mint shape but i want to give it
a thorough examination... keyboard and internals included.

i would apreciate any tips. a friend is going to bring over a multimeter..
but i have no idea what to do with it..

any help would be appreciated.
thanks
lucid

FW: [AH] jp6 preop

2001-01-05 by Verschut, Ricardo

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Perry [mailto:pfperry@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 12:40 AM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] jp6 preop


At 02:48 PM 4/01/01 -0500, sweetness wrote:
>i just got a jp6 in the mail.. its in minty mint shape but i want to give
it
>a thorough examination... keyboard and internals included.
>
Mate, if it works, DONT DO ANYTHING!!!!!

If you were feeling perfectly well, would you book yourself in for
'exploratory surgery'?
It's so easy to wreck stuff just opening it up...

paul perry Mlebourne Australia (Frostwave analog fx manufacturer)

FW: [AH] jp6 preop

2001-01-05 by Verschut, Ricardo

-----Original Message-----
From: Kent williams [mailto:kent@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:06 AM
To: analog heaven
Subject: Re: [AH] jp6 preop


On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Paul Perry wrote:

> At 02:48 PM 4/01/01 -0500, sweetness wrote:
> >i just got a jp6 in the mail.. its in minty mint shape but i want to give
it
> >a thorough examination... keyboard and internals included.
> >
> Mate, if it works, DONT DO ANYTHING!!!!!
>
Not bad advice paul...but if he can't resist...

The jp6 knobby panel is held on by 3 or 4 silver screws, along the
edge nearest the keys. You take those out, and the whole knob
panel is hinged at the back.

You can lift it up and look at the wonders inside, but don't flip
the damn thing open like a lunchbox -- there's all sorts of wiring
to the controls hooked to the CPU board. You'll be yanking hard on
them if you open it up all the way.

The guts of those things are a marvel of japanese hand engineering. Instead
of ribbon cables between the boards and the controls, there are bundles of
multicolored wires that terminate in connectors. the wires are tied together

by hand with little bits of twine. The wiring itself seems to be
single-strand
copper and is quite stiff -- the bundles are carefully bent like piping to
fit where they're supposed to.

They're pretty sturdy in general -- mine flipped backwards off a keyboard
stand once and lived to tell the tale, though I don't recommend doing
this to them.

If I can borrow a digital camera I'll snap some pics of the innards
sometime.

By the way, I've long since lost the screws holding down the control panel,
what with popping Europa beta ROMS in and out. Does anyone know precisely
what sort of screws I need to buy to replace the lost ones, so I don't strip
out the screwholes?

kent williams -- kent@...
http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label
http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes

FW: [AH] jp6 preop

2001-01-05 by Verschut, Ricardo

-----Original Message-----
From: sweetness [mailto:digitallucid@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 4:06 AM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] jp6 preop


ah so.

leaving the synth unopened is just fine with me..

but the seller sent me this jp6 in an UNLOCKED calzone case thru fedex... no
box! and plus the case was a little bigger then the synth and it was just
rattling around inside during delivery..

so i am a bit skeptical of its cherry condition. something must be wrong..
or at least loose. not knowing anything about electronics, is there
something specific i should look for?


thanks again
lucid

and also... this europa mod.. how much is it gonna cost.. and its just one
main chip to replace? it requires a tech or any idiot could do it?

> Not bad advice paul...but if he can't resist...
>
> The jp6 knobby panel is held on by 3 or 4 silver screws, along the
> edge nearest the keys. You take those out, and the whole knob
> panel is hinged at the back.
>
> You can lift it up and look at the wonders inside, but don't flip
> the damn thing open like a lunchbox -- there's all sorts of wiring
> to the controls hooked to the CPU board. You'll be yanking hard on
> them if you open it up all the way.
>
> The guts of those things are a marvel of japanese hand engineering.
Instead
> of ribbon cables between the boards and the controls, there are bundles of
> multicolored wires that terminate in connectors. the wires are tied
together
> by hand with little bits of twine. The wiring itself seems to be
single-strand
> copper and is quite stiff -- the bundles are carefully bent like piping to
> fit where they're supposed to.
>
> They're pretty sturdy in general -- mine flipped backwards off a keyboard
> stand once and lived to tell the tale, though I don't recommend doing
> this to them.
>
> If I can borrow a digital camera I'll snap some pics of the innards
sometime.
>
> By the way, I've long since lost the screws holding down the control
panel,
> what with popping Europa beta ROMS in and out. Does anyone know precisely
> what sort of screws I need to buy to replace the lost ones, so I don't
strip
> out the screwholes?
>
> kent williams -- kent@...
> http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label
> http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
>
>
>

FW: [AH] jp6 preop

2001-01-05 by Verschut, Ricardo

-----Original Message-----
From: Gizmo [mailto:exiel@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 4:19 AM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] jp6 preop


I would take Paul's advice on this one. If you know
nothing of electronics and the board circuitry - leave it
alone!! Your "Cherry" board may suddenly not work.
Then you'll really have to look hard for something that
may be wrong with it. I mean - you might be perfectly
fine opening it up. But, hey - it's YOUR time and
YOUR money... So YOU do what YOU think is best.
Sounds to me like you almost want something to be
wrong with it.

If you truely want to get it checked out - take it to
a synth tech. Go to Roland US's site http://www.rolandus.com
and you can locate a tech via their Authoriozed
Support Locator.

-J

----- Original Message -----
From: sweetness <digitallucid@...>
To: <analogue@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AH] jp6 preop


> ah so.
>
> leaving the synth unopened is just fine with me..
>
> but the seller sent me this jp6 in an UNLOCKED calzone case thru fedex...
no
> box! and plus the case was a little bigger then the synth and it was just
> rattling around inside during delivery..
>
> so i am a bit skeptical of its cherry condition. something must be wrong..
> or at least loose. not knowing anything about electronics, is there
> something specific i should look for?
>
>
> thanks again
> lucid
>
> and also... this europa mod.. how much is it gonna cost.. and its just one
> main chip to replace? it requires a tech or any idiot could do it?
>
> > Not bad advice paul...but if he can't resist...
> >
> > The jp6 knobby panel is held on by 3 or 4 silver screws, along the
> > edge nearest the keys. You take those out, and the whole knob
> > panel is hinged at the back.
> >
> > You can lift it up and look at the wonders inside, but don't flip
> > the damn thing open like a lunchbox -- there's all sorts of wiring
> > to the controls hooked to the CPU board. You'll be yanking hard on
> > them if you open it up all the way.
> >
> > The guts of those things are a marvel of japanese hand engineering.
Instead
> > of ribbon cables between the boards and the controls, there are bundles
of
> > multicolored wires that terminate in connectors. the wires are tied
together
> > by hand with little bits of twine. The wiring itself seems to be
single-strand
> > copper and is quite stiff -- the bundles are carefully bent like piping
to
> > fit where they're supposed to.
> >
> > They're pretty sturdy in general -- mine flipped backwards off a
keyboard
> > stand once and lived to tell the tale, though I don't recommend doing
> > this to them.
> >
> > If I can borrow a digital camera I'll snap some pics of the innards
sometime.
> >
> > By the way, I've long since lost the screws holding down the control
panel,
> > what with popping Europa beta ROMS in and out. Does anyone know
precisely
> > what sort of screws I need to buy to replace the lost ones, so I don't
strip
> > out the screwholes?
> >
> > kent williams -- kent@...
> > http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label
> > http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
> >
> >
> >
>
>

FW: [AH] jp6 preop

2001-01-05 by Verschut, Ricardo

-----Original Message-----
From: sweetness [mailto:digitallucid@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:12 AM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] jp6 preop


on 1/4/01 10:19 PM, Gizmo at exiel@... wrote:

> I would take Paul's advice on this one. If you know
> nothing of electronics and the board circuitry - leave it
> alone!! Your "Cherry" board may suddenly not work.
> Then you'll really have to look hard for something that
> may be wrong with it. I mean - you might be perfectly
> fine opening it up. But, hey - it's YOUR time and
> YOUR money... So YOU do what YOU think is best.
> Sounds to me like you almost want something to be
> wrong with it.
>

no i want it perfect.. but i got it on iescrow.. so i have a day to confirm
the transaction...

so if there is anything wrong i have to say so now or forever hold my
peace..

but.. considering what you guys say i will stay away from its internals and
judge it based on its normal operation.

thanks again
lucid
--
daily motto:
"sell half high, reinvest profits"