All about the Roland Jupiter-series

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From: Chad Gould [mailto:Chad_Gould@...]

> > Prices vary heaps. A juno 6 or 60 for between $200 and $350 is

reasonable

> > price.
> > The 106 goes for a lot more usually $500 to $750. A Juno 1 about $350 to
> > $400, and
> > a Juno 2 anything up to $700/$750. The alpha Juno's in my opinion are
> better
> > than all
> > the others. They are just a little harder to program...
> >
> > bud
> I think your prices may be a bit high on the Juno 2. In my opinion, the

Euro prices vs. US prices? The Juno 2 goes for $350 here, the Juno 1 for
$250, it really hasn't moved much in the last several years.
Juno 106 goes for $350-$400 now, 60 is around $300 I think.
In Europe its higher...

> Having said all that about Juno's they are all pale in comparison to
> Jupiters. The Jupiters can be programmed to make Juno sounds too. I sure

Only those with a self-osc resonant LPF, the MKS-80 does _NOT_ have one for
instance. The Junos (106 and 60 at least) have one of the best piercing
resonances out there I think. There's some cool Juno sounds that are
impossible on the MKS-80 because of this.
The oscillators sound way different too, I think if you are looking to make
DCO bleepy sounds on VCO synths and are picky about your sound you will be
disappointed.
The Jupiter 6s and MKS-80s envelopes are software-based and are a bit
sluggish compared to at least the 106 in gate mode, I think all the Junos
use hardware envs (at least up to the 106).

So in short, I would _NOT_ buy a Jupiter solely to get Juno sounds, though I
do think the Jups are better synths overall.
__________
CHAD GOULD

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From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...]

> From: Chad Gould <Chad_Gould@...>
> Euro prices vs. US prices? The Juno 2 goes for $350 here, the Juno 1 for
> $250, it really hasn't moved much in the last several years.
> Juno 106 goes for $350-$400 now, 60 is around $300 I think.
> In Europe its higher...

Excellent point Chad. I am often guilty of thinking in terms of US dollars
and forgetting what a global medium this is. Thanks for the reminder.

> Only those with a self-osc resonant LPF, the MKS-80 does _NOT_ have one

for

> instance. The Junos (106 and 60 at least) have one of the best piercing
> resonances out there I think. There's some cool Juno sounds that are
> impossible on the MKS-80 because of this.
> The oscillators sound way different too, I think if you are looking to

make

> DCO bleepy sounds on VCO synths and are picky about your sound you will

be

> disappointed.
> The Jupiter 6s and MKS-80s envelopes are software-based and are a bit
> sluggish compared to at least the 106 in gate mode, I think all the Junos
> use hardware envs (at least up to the 106).
>
> So in short, I would _NOT_ buy a Jupiter solely to get Juno sounds,

though I

> do think the Jups are better synths overall.

More excellent points Chad. When thinking about the filters, I was
thinking of my JP-6 and not MKS-80. Since I have aquired the JP-6 I find
the MKS-80 getting less and less use. And, you are right about Junos
having a signature of thier own. My Juno 60 falls into that class of synth
I will take with me to the grave. I paid $1250 US for my first one and
only $165 the second time around when they had slipped greatly in
popularity. Because of some of the very things you have pointed out, I
missed my J-60 so much after selling it, I had to buy another.

Thanks for another point of view.
LH