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New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-09-24 by tribblechristopher

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Eleanor Brown" <elliebrown@...>
wrote:
>
> Will there be profiles for this new paper soon?  I have an epson
2400 and 7800 printers.  
> Thanks, Eleanor
>

There's some useful advice at
http://www.harman-inkjet.com/Webfiles/2007622163739169.pdf

They recommend Watercolor Paper Radiant White for the 2100 / 4800
and Premium Glossy Photo Paper for your 2400.

Could be useful as a starting point...  Problem is that it's expensive
stuff to play around with too much...

Hope this gives you a start.

Chris

Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-09-25 by Rob Adams

I just tried UCmk-PMuseumBright-coolSe with the type media set as 
Ilford Heavy Paper.  I know it is a matte ink curve, but it worked 
very well with the harman gloss.

Anyone else tried other options on the Harman FB gloss?

Definately a paper worth trying.

Rob

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "tribblechristopher" 
<ctribble@...> wrote:
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Eleanor Brown" <elliebrown@>
>> There's some useful advice at
> http://www.harman-inkjet.com/Webfiles/2007622163739169.pdf
> 
> They recommend Watercolor Paper Radiant White for the 2100 / 4800
> and Premium Glossy Photo Paper for your 2400.
> 
> Could be useful as a starting point...  Problem is that it's 
expensive
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> stuff to play around with too much...
> 
> Hope this gives you a start.
> 
> Chris
>

Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-09-25 by skefford_1

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Adams" <Rob_adams@...> wrote:
>
> I just tried UCmk-PMuseumBright-coolSe with the type media set as 
> Ilford Heavy Paper.  I know it is a matte ink curve, but it worked 
> very well with the harman gloss.
> 
> Anyone else tried other options on the Harman FB gloss?

I am construction a profile for the 2100 at the moment. I have based
it on the Epson Semi Gloss.

Steve

Slow printing and ink on margins

2007-09-25 by ifotogu@aol.com

I am printing on an Epson 2200 and using Crane Silver Mueso paper. 
Everything goes fine until the very end of the print process. At that point, the printer slows to a crawl and it also leaves some excess ink on the paper margins.

It does not do this on other papers, such as the Moab Entrada.

Anyone have some ideas.

Thanks,
Robert in Washington DC
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Re: Slow printing and ink on margins

2007-09-25 by bwinkjet

Hi,

Suspect this could be a paper feed problem (not uncommon with the 
2200 and thicker art papers)  Try cleaning the rollers (feed a thick 
sheet of paper with isopropyl alcohol or windex with ammonia on the 
middle third through a number of times, alternating sides)
HTH

Paul

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, ifotogu@... wrote:
>
> I am printing on an Epson 2200 and using Crane Silver Mueso paper. 
> Everything goes fine until the very end of the print process. At 
that point, the printer slows to a crawl and it also leaves some 
excess ink on the paper margins.
> 
> It does not do this on other papers, such as the Moab Entrada.
> 
> Anyone have some ideas.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert in Washington DC
> 
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-09-26 by Richard Smallfield

At 03:55 AM Wednesday 9/26/2007, you wrote:
>> Anyone else tried other options on the Harman FB gloss?
>I am construction a profile for the 2100 at the moment. I have based
>it on the Epson Semi Gloss.

Is that a profile for UC ink? I'll be interested to hear how the bronzing is. If it turns out well would you be willing to share it with another 2100 owner?

thanks,
Richard

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Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-09-27 by tribblechristopher

Steve - if you do get there, I'd be really interested to get a copy if
you're willing to share.  I don't have a densitometer, so it's
difficult to cook my own profiles.

Thanks.

Chris

Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-09-27 by skefford_1

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Richard Smallfield
<r.smallfield@...> wrote:
>... 
> Is that a profile for UC ink? I'll be interested to hear how the
bronzing is. If it turns out well would you be willing to share it
with another 2100 owner?
> 

Yes it is for the Epson UC ink, and I do intend to make it available.
I have recently got myself a densitometer, so I am figuring out the
best way to work with it, so it will probably be a few more days
before it is finished.

Steve

Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-10-08 by tribblechristopher

For information, I've been printing very successfully (from where I
stand) on Harmon Gloss FB A1 using the following settings with an
Epson 2100.

Paper type = Premium Glossy Photo
Resolution = 2800
Speed = bi-directional
Curve 1 = UC-EEnhMatte-cool 80% 
Curve 2 = UC-EEnhMatte-warm 20%

Advanced
Ink Limit (Shadows) = -50
Gamma (midtones) = 0
Dither = Ordered.

I know that I'm using matte curve sets, but it's producing strikingly
neutral, un-bronzed with clarity of detail and shadow that I've never
achieved on any other paper.  So far I've been printing A5 tests, but
I have no concern about printing at A3.  

Image sources have ranged from scans from Fuji Neopan 400 on a Nikon
4000 ED, Leica M8 (iso 1250) or Canon 5D (iso 1250).

I'd be interested to see how much better I could get with dedicated
curves...

Best

Chris

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-10-08 by Paulo Baptista

Hi Chris,
I'm willing to try this paper on a UC 7600. As you're using the EEM 
matte curves, which black ink are you using (PK or MK)?
Thanks,
Paulo


At 06:38 8/10/2007, you wrote:
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>For information, I've been printing very successfully (from where I
>stand) on Harmon Gloss FB A1 using the following settings with an
>Epson 2100.
>
>Paper type = Premium Glossy Photo
>Resolution = 2800
>Speed = bi-directional
>Curve 1 = UC-EEnhMatte-cool 80%
>Curve 2 = UC-EEnhMatte-warm 20%
>
>Advanced
>Ink Limit (Shadows) = -50
>Gamma (midtones) = 0
>Dither = Ordered.
>
>I know that I'm using matte curve sets, but it's producing strikingly
>neutral, un-bronzed with clarity of detail and shadow that I've never
>achieved on any other paper.  So far I've been printing A5 tests, but
>I have no concern about printing at A3.
>
>Image sources have ranged from scans from Fuji Neopan 400 on a Nikon
>4000 ED, Leica M8 (iso 1250) or Canon 5D (iso 1250).
>
>I'd be interested to see how much better I could get with dedicated
>curves...
>
>Best
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-10-08 by tribblechristopher

Paulo - weirdly enough I'm using the photo-black ink.  I had to reduce
ink density to -50 to get them looking right.  All a bit rushed at the
moment (and STILL can't get A3 to print properly - but plan to spend a
bit more time doing things more scientifically.

Best

C:
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Paulo Baptista
<paulo.baptista@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi Chris,
> I'm willing to try this paper on a UC 7600. As you're using the EEM 
> matte curves, which black ink are you using (PK or MK)?
> Thanks,
> Paulo
> 
> 
> At 06:38 8/10/2007, you wrote:
> >For information, I've been printing very successfully (from where I
> >stand) on Harmon Gloss FB A1 using the following settings with an
> >Epson 2100.
> >
> >Paper type = Premium Glossy Photo
> >Resolution = 2800
> >Speed = bi-directional
> >Curve 1 = UC-EEnhMatte-cool 80%
> >Curve 2 = UC-EEnhMatte-warm 20%
> >
> >Advanced
> >Ink Limit (Shadows) = -50
> >Gamma (midtones) = 0
> >Dither = Ordered.
> >
> >I know that I'm using matte curve sets, but it's producing strikingly
> >neutral, un-bronzed with clarity of detail and shadow that I've never
> >achieved on any other paper.  So far I've been printing A5 tests, but
> >I have no concern about printing at A3.
> >
> >Image sources have ranged from scans from Fuji Neopan 400 on a Nikon
> >4000 ED, Leica M8 (iso 1250) or Canon 5D (iso 1250).
> >
> >I'd be interested to see how much better I could get with dedicated
> >curves...
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-10-09 by Paulo Baptista

Chris,
thank you; I'll try this paper as soon as I get some samples. Seems 
like it can be the answer to printing on the UC (K2) machines without 
heavy bronzing.
All the best,
  Paulo

At 19:26 8/10/2007, you wrote:
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>Paulo - weirdly enough I'm using the photo-black ink.  I had to reduce
>ink density to -50 to get them looking right.  All a bit rushed at the
>moment (and STILL can't get A3 to print properly - but plan to spend a
>bit more time doing things more scientifically.
>
>Best
>
>C:
>-

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-10-11 by William Wilson

I'm brand new to using QTR (OSx) Stylus Pro 9600 UC (Originals).

You refer to Curve1 = 80% and curve2 = 20% is that the settings for each of
the Tone Curve sliders H, M S or is it referring to something else?

Wills
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  From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of tribblechristopher
  Sent: 08 October 2007 10:38
  To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles


  For information, I've been printing very successfully (from where I
  stand) on Harmon Gloss FB A1 using the following settings with an
  Epson 2100.

  Paper type = Premium Glossy Photo
  Resolution = 2800
  Speed = bi-directional
  Curve 1 = UC-EEnhMatte-cool 80%
  Curve 2 = UC-EEnhMatte-warm 20%

  Advanced
  Ink Limit (Shadows) = -50
  Gamma (midtones) = 0
  Dither = Ordered.

  I know that I'm using matte curve sets, but it's producing strikingly
  neutral, un-bronzed with clarity of detail and shadow that I've never
  achieved on any other paper. So far I've been printing A5 tests, but
  I have no concern about printing at A3.

  Image sources have ranged from scans from Fuji Neopan 400 on a Nikon
  4000 ED, Leica M8 (iso 1250) or Canon 5D (iso 1250).

  I'd be interested to see how much better I could get with dedicated
  curves...

  Best

  Chris



  


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Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-10-21 by Byron Sanford

Steve,

Any progress on your profile? I've got some samples of the Harmon
paper I'm itching to try with QTR.

Thanks!

-Byron

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "skefford_1" <keff.antispam@...>
wrote:
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> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Richard Smallfield
> <r.smallfield@> wrote:
> >... 
> > Is that a profile for UC ink? I'll be interested to hear how the
> bronzing is. If it turns out well would you be willing to share it
> with another 2100 owner?
> > 
> 
> Yes it is for the Epson UC ink, and I do intend to make it available.
> I have recently got myself a densitometer, so I am figuring out the
> best way to work with it, so it will probably be a few more days
> before it is finished.
> 
> Steve
>

Re: New Harman Byrata Gloss FB AL profiles

2007-10-23 by skefford_1

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Byron Sanford"
<byron.sanford@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
> 
> Any progress on your profile? I've got some samples of the Harmon
> paper I'm itching to try with QTR.
> 

Yes, I have created one, and will shortly post in the files section.
Your comments would be appreciated.

Steve

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