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2007-04-01 by David Polcyn
Hi all, thanks for your help so far. Is the newest Epson print head technology in the 3800 better enough to not get a used 4000? I have an R800 and am thinking about the 2400 or something bigger to use with Peizotone K7 inks to print my rocks and trees. Where do you see Epson going from here? Thanks, Dave Polcyn
2007-04-02 by Roy Harrington
If you are going to switch inks to K7 all those printers are close enough in technology. But if you want to use Epson inks the new K3 inks are a significant improvement over the olded UltraChromes -- especially for photo papers but also because there's a light-light-black for smoother highlights. Roy On 4/2/07, David Polcyn <davepolcyn@...> wrote: > > Hi all, thanks for your help so far. Is the newest Epson print head > technology in the 3800 better enough to not get a used 4000? I have > an R800 and am thinking about the 2400 or something bigger to use > with Peizotone K7 inks to print my rocks and trees. Where do you see > Epson going from here? > > Thanks, > > Dave Polcyn > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2016-05-10 by jp432r@...
2016-05-10 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
1430 (modified), 4900, 3880 (modified) all make perfect prints without pizza-wheels with the upcoming PiezoDN system. I’ll be posting videos about this soon. Walker
> On May 10, 2016, at 4:07 PM, jp432r@winfirst.com [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I'm REALLY frustrated and I'm tired of being frustrated. > > I am having no luck getting decent negs from my Epson Stylus Photo R3000. I just cannot get the damned "pizza wheel" marks to go away. > > I've begun pulling the pizza wheels out of the printer and, so far, it still feeds well, but I'm concerned that eventually I'll pull one too many and the printer will stop feeding material. I've tried the straight through front feed and I get the marks. > > The R3000 produces amazing digital prints and, except for the damned pizza wheel marks, it makes great negatives. I really hate to be done with it, but what else can I do? > > If there is no way to stop it from making the marks, I have get some other printer. > > But which one? The people I know locally suggest the 3800 (despite its magenta clogging problems) or the 3880. Sadly they're not made anymore. > So... of the printers Epson, or for that manner, any manufacturer, now makes which one is best. For the moment I'm content to make prints 8x10 or smaller so large size is unnecessary. > > All help will be appreciated. > > Jeff > >
2016-05-10 by awidener@...
2016-05-10 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
3880 Steps (very condensed instructions so some intuition is required if you want to follow this). 1. Take the left bottom panel (below ink bay cover) off. One screw. 2. Pull the front load tray out and up. 3. Stick a small head-wiper swab (you can get these swabs at Inkjetmall or at a lot of other places) into the small leaf-sensor area about 2 inches into the right-top area of the part exposed by step 1. 4. Now the printer can print with the front feed tray out (and the star wheels up). 5. Put a 17” wide pictorico sheet emulsion side down on the feed tray (where the prints comes out) with the edge resting just below the bottom exit rollers. (this keeps sheets from getting caught on stuff when printing. 6. Back-load your sheets and you are all set for zero star-wheels. That much and more coming. best, Walker R&D InkjetMall
> On May 10, 2016, at 5:12 PM, awidener@sbcglobal.net [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Walker, how do you modify an 3880 to get prints without pizza-wheel marks? > >
2016-05-11 by Don Nelson
Walker Can you post some pictures in the inkjet mall page to show us your mod I have been using front feed to avoid this but it's painful Looks interesting Thanks Don Sent from my iPhone
> On May 10, 2016, at 2:36 PM, 'forums@...' forums@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > 3880 Steps (very condensed instructions so some intuition is required if you want to follow this). > > > 1. Take the left bottom panel (below ink bay cover) off. One screw. > 2. Pull the front load tray out and up. > 3. Stick a small head-wiper swab (you can get these swabs at Inkjetmall or at a lot of other places) into the small leaf-sensor area about 2 inches into the right-top area of the part exposed by step 1. > 4. Now the printer can print with the front feed tray out (and the star wheels up). > 5. Put a 17” wide pictorico sheet emulsion side down on the feed tray (where the prints comes out) with the edge resting just below the bottom exit rollers. (this keeps sheets from getting caught on stuff when printing. > 6. Back-load your sheets and you are all set for zero star-wheels. > > That much and more coming. > > best, > Walker > R&D InkjetMall > >> On May 10, 2016, at 5:12 PM, awidener@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Walker, how do you modify an 3880 to get prints without pizza-wheel marks? >> > >
2016-05-11 by Keith Schreiber
Doesn’t using the front feed on the 3880 bypass the star-wheels without having to modify anything? I’ve been using the front feed on my 3880 for digital negs without any marks. Not so with the sheet feed. Cheers, Keith Keith Schreiber jkschreiber.com
> On May 10, 2016, at 3:36 PM, 'forums@...' forums@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > 3880 Steps (very condensed instructions so some intuition is required if you want to follow this). > > > 1. Take the left bottom panel (below ink bay cover) off. One screw. > 2. Pull the front load tray out and up. > 3. Stick a small head-wiper swab (you can get these swabs at Inkjetmall or at a lot of other places) into the small leaf-sensor area about 2 inches into the right-top area of the part exposed by step 1. > 4. Now the printer can print with the front feed tray out (and the star wheels up). > 5. Put a 17” wide pictorico sheet emulsion side down on the feed tray (where the prints comes out) with the edge resting just below the bottom exit rollers. (this keeps sheets from getting caught on stuff when printing. > 6. Back-load your sheets and you are all set for zero star-wheels. > > That much and more coming. > > best, > Walker > R&D InkjetMall > >> On May 10, 2016, at 5:12 PM, awidener@...t <mailto:awidener@...> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@...m <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >> >> Walker, how do you modify an 3880 to get prints without pizza-wheel marks? >> > > >
2016-05-11 by Don Nelson
Yes Sent from my iPhone
> On May 10, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Keith Schreiber keith@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Doesn’t using the front feed on the 3880 bypass the star-wheels without having to modify anything? I’ve been using the front feed on my 3880 for digital negs without any marks. Not so with the sheet feed. > > Cheers, > Keith > > Keith Schreiber > jkschreiber.com > > > > >> On May 10, 2016, at 3:36 PM, 'forums@...' forums@...m [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> 3880 Steps (very condensed instructions so some intuition is required if you want to follow this). >> >> >> 1. Take the left bottom panel (below ink bay cover) off. One screw. >> 2. Pull the front load tray out and up. >> 3. Stick a small head-wiper swab (you can get these swabs at Inkjetmall or at a lot of other places) into the small leaf-sensor area about 2 inches into the right-top area of the part exposed by step 1. >> 4. Now the printer can print with the front feed tray out (and the star wheels up). >> 5. Put a 17” wide pictorico sheet emulsion side down on the feed tray (where the prints comes out) with the edge resting just below the bottom exit rollers. (this keeps sheets from getting caught on stuff when printing. >> 6. Back-load your sheets and you are all set for zero star-wheels. >> >> That much and more coming. >> >> best, >> Walker >> R&D InkjetMall >> >>> On May 10, 2016, at 5:12 PM, awidener@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Walker, how do you modify an 3880 to get prints without pizza-wheel marks? >>> > >
2016-05-11 by Catherine Costolo
I also use the front feed of the 3880 and never get pizza wheel marks. Catherine
> On May 11, 2016, at 2:03 AM, Don Nelson ac7zg@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Walker > Can you post some pictures in the inkjet mall page to show us your mod > I have been using front feed to avoid this but it's painful > Looks interesting > Thanks > Don > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 10, 2016, at 2:36 PM, 'forums@... <mailto:forums@...>' forums@walkerblackwell.com <mailto:forums@...> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> 3880 Steps (very condensed instructions so some intuition is required if you want to follow this). >> >> >> 1. Take the left bottom panel (below ink bay cover) off. One screw. >> 2. Pull the front load tray out and up. >> 3. Stick a small head-wiper swab (you can get these swabs at Inkjetmall or at a lot of other places) into the small leaf-sensor area about 2 inches into the right-top area of the part exposed by step 1. >> 4. Now the printer can print with the front feed tray out (and the star wheels up). >> 5. Put a 17” wide pictorico sheet emulsion side down on the feed tray (where the prints comes out) with the edge resting just below the bottom exit rollers. (this keeps sheets from getting caught on stuff when printing. >> 6. Back-load your sheets and you are all set for zero star-wheels. >> >> That much and more coming. >> >> best, >> Walker >> R&D InkjetMall >> >>> On May 10, 2016, at 5:12 PM, awidener@... <mailto:awidener@...> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Walker, how do you modify an 3880 to get prints without pizza-wheel marks? >>> >> >> > > >
2016-05-11 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
I find using the front feed to be troublesome with some 3880s and not troublesome with other 3880s when using pictorico film. The printers (I’ve tested on 6 3880s) throw too many sensor errors and when you turn the sensors off this also causes problems. This is why I developed the method described below . . . It’s important to only load the Pictorico a single time without error to minimize abrasions to the emulsion surface caused by other non-star rollers, etc. I also had start-wheels happen on a few of the 3880s when using front-feed . . . so, decided to get rid of them essentially. best, Walker
> On May 11, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Don Nelson ac7zg@frontier.com [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Yes > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 10, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Keith Schreiber keith@... <mailto:keith@...> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> >> Doesn’t using the front feed on the 3880 bypass the star-wheels without having to modify anything? I’ve been using the front feed on my 3880 for digital negs without any marks. Not so with the sheet feed. >> >> Cheers, >> Keith >> >> Keith Schreiber >> jkschreiber.com <http://jkschreiber.com/> >> >> >> >> >>> On May 10, 2016, at 3:36 PM, 'forums@walkerblackwell.com <mailto:forums@...>' forums@walkerblackwell.com <mailto:forums@...>[QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>> 3880 Steps (very condensed instructions so some intuition is required if you want to follow this). >>> >>> >>> 1. Take the left bottom panel (below ink bay cover) off. One screw. >>> 2. Pull the front load tray out and up. >>> 3. Stick a small head-wiper swab (you can get these swabs at Inkjetmall or at a lot of other places) into the small leaf-sensor area about 2 inches into the right-top area of the part exposed by step 1. >>> 4. Now the printer can print with the front feed tray out (and the star wheels up). >>> 5. Put a 17” wide pictorico sheet emulsion side down on the feed tray (where the prints comes out) with the edge resting just below the bottom exit rollers. (this keeps sheets from getting caught on stuff when printing. >>> 6. Back-load your sheets and you are all set for zero star-wheels. >>> >>> That much and more coming. >>> >>> best, >>> Walker >>> R&D InkjetMall >>> >>>> On May 10, 2016, at 5:12 PM, awidener@... <mailto:awidener@...> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Walker, how do you modify an 3880 to get prints without pizza-wheel marks? >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
2016-05-20 by sanking@...
2016-05-20 by Catherine Costolo
Thanks, Sandy. I appreciate your advice. So far I have had no problems with the loading but will keep my fingers crossed. : ) Catherine
> On May 20, 2016, at 4:57 PM, sanking@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Yes, you can use the front feed of the 3880 to avoid the pizza wheel marks. However, the front loader is designed to take thick media and some 3880 printers do not load the thin Pictorico all that well, and you might have to load it several times. I experienced that problem, and one day the Pictorico jammed under the head while printing and the actually literally destroyed the head. Since my work with inkjet printers is 100% with Pictorico I decided to replace the 3880 with a 7800, and I consider it one of the best decisions I ever made. > > Had I known how to remove the guide wheels I would have done that an avoided the front loader, and might still have a working 3880 instead of one that was destroyed. I did remove the guide wheels on an earlier Epson printer, the 2200, and it worked great without them in loading Pictorico. Bottom line, if I were used an Epson 3880 for printing on Pictorico I would definitely remove the guide wheels. > > > > Sandy > >
2016-05-20 by Alan Vlach
Are there any instruction for removing them? Sent from my iPhone
> On May 20, 2016, at 10:57 AM, sanking@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Yes, you can use the front feed of the 3880 to avoid the pizza wheel marks. However, the front loader is designed to take thick media and some 3880 printers do not load the thin Pictorico all that well, and you might have to load it several times. I experienced that problem, and one day the Pictorico jammed under the head while printing and the actually literally destroyed the head. Since my work with inkjet printers is 100% with Pictorico I decided to replace the 3880 with a 7800, and I consider it one of the best decisions I ever made. > > Had I known how to remove the guide wheels I would have done that an avoided the front loader, and might still have a working 3880 instead of one that was destroyed. I did remove the guide wheels on an earlier Epson printer, the 2200, and it worked great without them in loading Pictorico. Bottom line, if I were used an Epson 3880 for printing on Pictorico I would definitely remove the guide wheels. > > > > Sandy > >
2016-05-20 by Keith Schreiber
See Walker’s post earlier in this thread. Personally I have not found it to be necessary, though I think I know what causes the problem. A slight upward curl in the film may cause it to bump into a piece (not sure what to call it) that holds some rollers (not the star wheels) rather than going beneath it. It’s easy to see if you lift the top cover. Guiding the film under it solves the problem. Maybe others have run into something else that is more complicated than this, but I haven’t. I’m attaching a couple of pictures but not sure if they will post here. The first shows the part in question (red arrow), and the second shows a sheet of paper properly loaded. Keith Schreiber jkschreiber.com
> On May 20, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Alan Vlach alanvlach@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Are there any instruction for removing them? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 20, 2016, at 10:57 AM, sanking@clemson.edu <mailto:sanking@...> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> Yes, you can use the front feed of the 3880 to avoid the pizza wheel marks. However, the front loader is designed to take thick media and some 3880 printers do not load the thin Pictorico all that well, and you might have to load it several times. I experienced that problem, and one day the Pictorico jammed under the head while printing and the actually literally destroyed the head. Since my work with inkjet printers is 100% with Pictorico I decided to replace the 3880 with a 7800, and I consider it one of the best decisions I ever made. >> >> Had I known how to remove the guide wheels I would have done that an avoided the front loader, and might still have a working 3880 instead of one that was destroyed. I did remove the guide wheels on an earlier Epson printer, the 2200, and it worked great without them in loading Pictorico. Bottom line, if I were used an Epson 3880 for printing on Pictorico I would definitely remove the guide wheels. >> >> >> >> Sandy >> > >