QTR-Quadtone RIP

When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it�s almost like the ink is
only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i�ll get ink
all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on mattepaper
or when i print on glossy paper but not using the quadtone rip. Anyone
experienced the same??

sounds like you aren't using the right paper and right ink combination.

Scott

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "jerkankarlsson"
<jerkankarlsson@...> wrote:

>
> When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it´s almost like the ink is
> only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i´ll get ink
> all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on mattepaper
> or when i print on glossy paper but not using the quadtone rip. Anyone
> experienced the same??
>

I have not experienced that problem with the Epson 2200 and Epson OEM ink 
cartridges on Ilford Gallery smooth gloss paper.

What printer, ink and paper are you using?

Maris

jerkankarlsson wrote:

> When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it\ufffds almost like the ink is
> only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i\ufffdll get ink
> all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on mattepaper
> or when i print on glossy paper but not using the quadtone rip. Anyone
> experienced the same??

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Maris V. Lidaka Sr."
<mlidaka@...> wrote:
>
> I have not experienced that problem with the Epson 2200 and Epson
OEM ink 
> cartridges on Ilford Gallery smooth gloss paper.
> 
> What printer, ink and paper are you using?
> 
> Maris
> 
> jerkankarlsson wrote:
> > When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it´s almost like the ink is
> > only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i´ll get ink
> > all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on mattepaper
> > or when i print on glossy paper but not using the quadtone rip. Anyone
> > experienced the same??


I´m using epson r1800 and epson premium semiglossypaper and ilford
smoothpearl. The ink is from MIS(refill). If i print without the rip
the ink is fine but the images does´nt look natural.
>

Is it possible to import papperprofiles to the Quadtone, like ilfords
smoothpearl?

Sounds like the MIS black ink is the problem - try replacing it with Epson 
OEM black ink and see what happens.  I believe that when you print without 
the RIP, all of the inks are used and combined to create black in most of 
the gray-to-black areas, and so smudging may well not occur.

Does the ink come off even after letting the print dry overnight?

Maris

jerkankarlsson wrote:

> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Maris V. Lidaka Sr."
> <mlidaka@...> wrote:
>>
>> I have not experienced that problem with the Epson 2200 and Epson
> OEM ink
>> cartridges on Ilford Gallery smooth gloss paper.
>>
>> What printer, ink and paper are you using?
>>
>> Maris
>>
>> jerkankarlsson wrote:
>>> When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it\ufffds almost like the ink is
>>> only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i\ufffdll get
>>> ink all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on
>>> mattepaper or when i print on glossy paper but not using the
>>> quadtone rip. Anyone experienced the same??
>
>
> I\ufffdm using epson r1800 and epson premium semiglossypaper and ilford
> smoothpearl. The ink is from MIS(refill). If i print without the rip
> the ink is fine but the images does\ufffdnt look natural.
>>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Not AFAIK, but Roy may have some suggestions.

Maris

jerkankarlsson wrote:
> Is it possible to import papperprofiles to the Quadtone, like ilfords
> smoothpearl?

It may be you are flooding the paper with too much ink. If that is
what is happening some of the ink will be on top and can rub off. Try
reducing the boost setting on Qtr for the black. Cut it back by 75%
and see if that works.

Regards
Duane

> jerkankarlsson wrote:
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Maris V. Lidaka Sr."
> > <mlidaka@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have not experienced that problem with the Epson 2200 and Epson
> > OEM ink
> >> cartridges on Ilford Gallery smooth gloss paper.
> >>
> >> What printer, ink and paper are you using?
> >>
> >> Maris
> >>
> >> jerkankarlsson wrote:
> >>> When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it´s almost like the ink is
> >>> only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i´ll get
> >>> ink all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on
> >>> mattepaper or when i print on glossy paper but not using the
> >>> quadtone rip. Anyone experienced the same??
> >
> >
> > I´m using epson r1800 and epson premium semiglossypaper and ilford
> > smoothpearl. The ink is from MIS(refill). If i print without the rip
> > the ink is fine but the images does´nt look natural.
> >>
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> >
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> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> > > When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it´s almost like the ink is
> > > only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i´ll get ink
> > > all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on mattepaper
> > > or when i print on glossy paper but not using the quadtone rip. Anyone
> > > experienced the same??
> 
> 
> I´m using epson r1800 and epson premium semiglossypaper and ilford
> smoothpearl. The ink is from MIS(refill). If i print without the rip
> the ink is fine but the images does´nt look natural.

Are you using Eboni Black or Photo Black?  I just created the same problem on a color image 
on Ilford Smooth Pearl late last night by forgetting to switch the Eboni (Matte) Black for Photo 
Black.  I saw it right away with the gloss diferential last night and sure enough after reading 
your post I rubbed a finger across a black area and it smudged to beat the band. I'm sure the 
semiglossy will have the same problem

Everyone who posted here has some interesting suggestions, but the
issue comes down to the ink selection in QTR and the fact that you are
using an R1800 printer. The default (and only profiles) for the R1800
in QTR are for Matte paper so they use the Matte black ink. You are
printing on glossy paper and your printer has a gloss black. You need
to utilize that black.

What I had to do was to create a new profile that uses the gloss black
instead of the matte black. You also have to adjust the use of the
magenta or the print comes out green--which is what we're all trying
to escape by using QTR.


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "jerkankarlsson"
<jerkankarlsson@...> wrote:

>
> When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it´s almost like the ink is
> only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i´ll get ink
> all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on mattepaper
> or when i print on glossy paper but not using the quadtone rip. Anyone
> experienced the same??
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "robert49brake"
<robert49brake@...> wrote:
>
> > > > When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it´s almost like the
ink is
> > > > only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i´ll
get ink
> > > > all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on
mattepaper
> > > > or when i print on glossy paper but not using the quadtone
rip. Anyone
> > > > experienced the same??
> > 
> > 
> > I´m using epson r1800 and epson premium semiglossypaper and ilford
> > smoothpearl. The ink is from MIS(refill). If i print without the rip
> > the ink is fine but the images does´nt look natural.
> 
> Are you using Eboni Black or Photo Black?  I just created the same
problem on a color image 
> on Ilford Smooth Pearl late last night by forgetting to switch the
Eboni (Matte) Black for Photo 
> Black.  I saw it right away with the gloss diferential last night
and sure enough after reading 
> your post I rubbed a finger across a black area and it smudged to
beat the band. I'm sure the 
> semiglossy will have the same problem
>

Thats right...i printed with the matte profile on glossy paper! But
theres only one option for glossyprints on the r1800!? 
They turn out brown..cant get a natural b&W?

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "brianmills_us" <brian@...> wrote:
>
> Everyone who posted here has some interesting suggestions, but the
> issue comes down to the ink selection in QTR and the fact that you are
> using an R1800 printer. The default (and only profiles) for the R1800
> in QTR are for Matte paper so they use the Matte black ink. You are
> printing on glossy paper and your printer has a gloss black. You need
> to utilize that black.
> 
> What I had to do was to create a new profile that uses the gloss black
> instead of the matte black. You also have to adjust the use of the
> magenta or the print comes out green--which is what we're all trying
> to escape by using QTR.
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "jerkankarlsson"
> <jerkankarlsson@> wrote:
> >
> > When i print on glossy/semi glossy paper it´s almost like the ink is
> > only on the surface of the paper. When i touch the paper i´ll get ink
> > all over my fingers? This is not the case when i print on mattepaper
> > or when i print on glossy paper but not using the quadtone rip. Anyone
> > experienced the same??
> >
>
Ok..how do i create a new profile?