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Printing over network

2013-06-12 by dtstrouse55

I installed the QTR and the profiles for my printer using the USB connection. The QTR works only if I am connected via USB. I can not print over the network. Is there a way to solve this problem? I can print over the network without using QTR, ie... choosing the 9600 in the print dialog box instead of Quad 9600.

Suggestions?

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Printing over network

2013-06-13 by Myron Gochnauer

I use QTR over a network. The "trick" is to install QTR for the networked printer, not when connected via USB cable.

To do this you need to find the network address for the printer. (QTR will want to know this.)   On my Mac I do this by first installing the "regular" version of the printer over the network (i.e. using the Epson 4880 driver, in my case), and then looking at the resulting installation.  ( On a Mac, go to Print & Scan / Epson StylusPro 4880 / Options & Supplies / Show Printer Webpage.  Under Information � TCP/IP you can see the IP Address.  It will be something like 192.168.2.28. That's what QTR needs to install the *network* QTR printer. )

Myron

On 2013-06-12, at 1:18 PM, dtstrouse55 <dtstrouse55@...<mailto:dtstrouse55@...>>
 wrote:



I installed the QTR and the profiles for my printer using the USB connection. The QTR works only if I am connected via USB. I can not print over the network. Is there a way to solve this problem? I can print over the network without using QTR, ie... choosing the 9600 in the print dialog box instead of Quad 9600.

Suggestions?







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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Printing over network

2013-06-13 by Roy Harrington

Using ip numbers can be done. But a protocol called Bonjour is simpler. See
the tutorial.pdf at the end for details.

Roy

On Wednesday, June 12, 2013, Myron Gochnauer wrote:

> I use QTR over a network. The "trick" is to install QTR for the networked
> printer, not when connected via USB cable.
>
> To do this you need to find the network address for the printer. (QTR will
> want to know this.)   On my Mac I do this by first installing the "regular"
> version of the printer over the network (i.e. using the Epson 4880 driver,
> in my case), and then looking at the resulting installation.  ( On a Mac,
> go to Print & Scan / Epson StylusPro 4880 / Options & Supplies / Show
> Printer Webpage.  Under Information � TCP/IP you can see the IP Address.
>  It will be something like 192.168.2.28. That's what QTR needs to install
> the *network* QTR printer. )
>
> Myron
>
> On 2013-06-12, at 1:18 PM, dtstrouse55 <dtstrouse55@...<javascript:;>
> <mailto:dtstrouse55@yahoo.com <javascript:;>>>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> I installed the QTR and the profiles for my printer using the USB
> connection. The QTR works only if I am connected via USB. I can not print
> over the network. Is there a way to solve this problem? I can print over
> the network without using QTR, ie... choosing the 9600 in the print dialog
> box instead of Quad 9600.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

-- 
Roy Harrington
roy@...
www.harrington.com


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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Printing over network

2013-06-14 by Myron Gochnauer

Thanks, Roy.  The Bonjour method is much easier, and the one I use for everything else! It didn't work for me because I was running the QTR script *before* I had installed the Quad printer.  Sheesh!

For those of you listening in, the following *seems* to be the best way to install an Epson 4880 on a Mac for use with K7 inks (i.e. 7 black inks instead of colour):

**********************
Go to SystemPreferences / Print-&-Scan / "+" (at bottom of box on the left) / Add Printer or Scanner

	Choose the EpsonStylusPro4880 that is a Bonjour printer (rather than Epson TCP/IP)
	Change the name to Quad4880-K7.  
	Let OS X install the printer (with the new name).

In Finder, go to the folder Applications/QuadToneRIP/Profiles/4880-K7/

	Double Click on "Install4880-K7.command". 
	This command script will do two things:
		1) create profiles from the curve description files in that subdirectory, and 
		2) create ~/Library/Printers/Quad4880-K7.app 

Now "Quad4880-K7" will be an available printer choice, and the curves defined in the directory containing "Install4880-K7.command" will appear in the printer dialogue.
***********************

IS THIS ACCURATE? 

I'm trying to create little sets of very specific instructions for myself, since I tend to forget what I did months ago, even though it may have seemed so obvious at the time. :-)

Myron
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On 2013-06-12, at 10:32 PM, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:

> Using ip numbers can be done. But a protocol called Bonjour is simpler. See
> the tutorial.pdf at the end for details.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2013, Myron Gochnauer wrote:
> 
>> I use QTR over a network. The "trick" is to install QTR for the networked
>> printer, not when connected via USB cable.
>> 
>> To do this you need to find the network address for the printer. (QTR will
>> want to know this.)   On my Mac I do this by first installing the "regular"
>> version of the printer over the network (i.e. using the Epson 4880 driver,
>> in my case), and then looking at the resulting installation.  ( On a Mac,
>> go to Print & Scan / Epson StylusPro 4880 / Options & Supplies / Show
>> Printer Webpage.  Under Information – TCP/IP you can see the IP Address.
>> It will be something like 192.168.2.28. That's what QTR needs to install
>> the *network* QTR printer. )
>> 
>> Myron
>> 
>> On 2013-06-12, at 1:18 PM, dtstrouse55 <dtstrouse55@...<javascript:;>
>> <mailto:dtstrouse55@... <javascript:;>>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I installed the QTR and the profiles for my printer using the USB
>> connection. The QTR works only if I am connected via USB. I can not print
>> over the network. Is there a way to solve this problem? I can print over
>> the network without using QTR, ie... choosing the 9600 in the print dialog
>> box instead of Quad 9600.
>> 
>> Suggestions?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------
>> 
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Roy Harrington
> roy@...m
> www.harrington.com
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Printing over network

2013-06-14 by Jacques Caron

Hi Myron

I made the same procedure, some three months ago, to install my 1430 with EB-6; this is the easiest way to install printers with QTR.



Le 2013-06-14 � 15:14, Myron  Gochnauer <goch@...> a �crit :

> Thanks, Roy.  The Bonjour method is much easier, and the one I use for everything else! It didn't work for me because I was running the QTR script *before* I had installed the Quad printer.  Sheesh!
> 
> For those of you listening in, the following *seems* to be the best way to install an Epson 4880 on a Mac for use with K7 inks (i.e. 7 black inks instead of colour):
> 
> **********************
> Go to SystemPreferences / Print-&-Scan / "+" (at bottom of box on the left) / Add Printer or Scanner
> 
> 	Choose the EpsonStylusPro4880 that is a Bonjour printer (rather than Epson TCP/IP)
> 	Change the name to Quad4880-K7.  
> 	Let OS X install the printer (with the new name).
> 
> In Finder, go to the folder Applications/QuadToneRIP/Profiles/4880-K7/
> 
> 	Double Click on "Install4880-K7.command". 
> 	This command script will do two things:
> 		1) create profiles from the curve description files in that subdirectory, and 
> 		2) create ~/Library/Printers/Quad4880-K7.app 
> 
> Now "Quad4880-K7" will be an available printer choice, and the curves defined in the directory containing "Install4880-K7.command" will appear in the printer dialogue.
> ***********************
> 
> IS THIS ACCURATE? 
> 
> I'm trying to create little sets of very specific instructions for myself, since I tend to forget what I did months ago, even though it may have seemed so obvious at the time. :-)
> 
> Myron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2013-06-12, at 10:32 PM, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
> 
>> Using ip numbers can be done. But a protocol called Bonjour is simpler. See
>> the tutorial.pdf at the end for details.
>> 
>> Roy
>> 
>> On Wednesday, June 12, 2013, Myron Gochnauer wrote:
>> 
>>> I use QTR over a network. The "trick" is to install QTR for the networked
>>> printer, not when connected via USB cable.
>>> 
>>> To do this you need to find the network address for the printer. (QTR will
>>> want to know this.)   On my Mac I do this by first installing the "regular"
>>> version of the printer over the network (i.e. using the Epson 4880 driver,
>>> in my case), and then looking at the resulting installation.  ( On a Mac,
>>> go to Print & Scan / Epson StylusPro 4880 / Options & Supplies / Show
>>> Printer Webpage.  Under Information � TCP/IP you can see the IP Address.
>>> It will be something like 192.168.2.28. That's what QTR needs to install
>>> the *network* QTR printer. )
>>> 
>>> Myron
>>> 
>>> On 2013-06-12, at 1:18 PM, dtstrouse55 <dtstrouse55@...<javascript:;>
>>> <mailto:dtstrouse55@... <javascript:;>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I installed the QTR and the profiles for my printer using the USB
>>> connection. The QTR works only if I am connected via USB. I can not print
>>> over the network. Is there a way to solve this problem? I can print over
>>> the network without using QTR, ie... choosing the 9600 in the print dialog
>>> box instead of Quad 9600.
>>> 
>>> Suggestions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Roy Harrington
>> roy@...
>> www.harrington.com
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

Jacques Caron
Photographe
jacques.caron@...





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Re: Printing over network

2013-06-15 by tboleyyh

I have a more complicated setup, and have not been able to make it work with QTR or the OEM driver, so it's not a QTR issue but I might as well throw it out here anyway...
I have 3 LF Epsons connected to a PC, 2 through a router, one USB, all works fine from the PC. My main computers are Macs, and the PC is networked to them. I send files from the Mac to the PC to then open and print there with another RIP.
WHen I try to find those printers here on the Mac, to also use QTR to them from the Mac, Bonjour does not see them. If I use "windows". I can select the PC and it does see those printers, I then select which software to use etc. Now they do show up on the list, and show as idle.. but nothing can print to them, neither the OEM driver or QTR, the Epson utilities don't see the printer either.. odd since the printer setup does seems to see it..
ANy ideas? Too complicated?
Thanks,
Tyler

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Myron  Gochnauer" <goch@...> wrote:
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>
> Thanks, Roy.  The Bonjour method is much easier, and the one I use for everything else! It didn't work for me because I was running the QTR script *before* I had installed the Quad printer.  Sheesh!
> 
> For those of you listening in, the following *seems* to be the best way to install an Epson 4880 on a Mac for use with K7 inks (i.e. 7 black inks instead of colour):
> 
> **********************
> Go to SystemPreferences / Print-&-Scan / "+" (at bottom of box on the left) / Add Printer or Scanner
> 
> 	Choose the EpsonStylusPro4880 that is a Bonjour printer (rather than Epson TCP/IP)
> 	Change the name to Quad4880-K7.  
> 	Let OS X install the printer (with the new name).
> 
> In Finder, go to the folder Applications/QuadToneRIP/Profiles/4880-K7/
> 
> 	Double Click on "Install4880-K7.command". 
> 	This command script will do two things:
> 		1) create profiles from the curve description files in that subdirectory, and 
> 		2) create ~/Library/Printers/Quad4880-K7.app 
> 
> Now "Quad4880-K7" will be an available printer choice, and the curves defined in the directory containing "Install4880-K7.command" will appear in the printer dialogue.
> ***********************
> 
> IS THIS ACCURATE? 
> 
> I'm trying to create little sets of very specific instructions for myself, since I tend to forget what I did months ago, even though it may have seemed so obvious at the time. :-)
> 
> Myron
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On 2013-06-12, at 10:32 PM, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
> 
> > Using ip numbers can be done. But a protocol called Bonjour is simpler. See
> > the tutorial.pdf at the end for details.
> > 
> > Roy
> > 
> > On Wednesday, June 12, 2013, Myron Gochnauer wrote:
> > 
> >> I use QTR over a network. The "trick" is to install QTR for the networked
> >> printer, not when connected via USB cable.
> >> 
> >> To do this you need to find the network address for the printer. (QTR will
> >> want to know this.)   On my Mac I do this by first installing the "regular"
> >> version of the printer over the network (i.e. using the Epson 4880 driver,
> >> in my case), and then looking at the resulting installation.  ( On a Mac,
> >> go to Print & Scan / Epson StylusPro 4880 / Options & Supplies / Show
> >> Printer Webpage.  Under Information – TCP/IP you can see the IP Address.
> >> It will be something like 192.168.2.28. That's what QTR needs to install
> >> the *network* QTR printer. )
> >> 
> >> Myron
> >> 
> >> On 2013-06-12, at 1:18 PM, dtstrouse55 <dtstrouse55@...<javascript:;>
> >> <mailto:dtstrouse55@... <javascript:;>>>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I installed the QTR and the profiles for my printer using the USB
> >> connection. The QTR works only if I am connected via USB. I can not print
> >> over the network. Is there a way to solve this problem? I can print over
> >> the network without using QTR, ie... choosing the 9600 in the print dialog
> >> box instead of Quad 9600.
> >> 
> >> Suggestions?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Roy Harrington
> > roy@...
> > www.harrington.com
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >
>

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Printing over network

2013-06-15 by Roy Harrington

Hi Tyler,

A couple quick questions:
Are the printers "through a router" on the ethernet or USB on the router?
I'm guessing the router isn't an Apple Airport.  ??
Do you use Bonjour on the PC or the Epson TCP/IP connection?
Do you have Bonjour enabled on the printer (thru the front panel)?
Does printer setup on the Mac see it as a Bonjour printer?

I guess that's more than a couple.  Just wondering how much Bonjour is
working or not.
Roy

PS.  Thanks Myron spelling it out again.  I'd add that when in Print&Scan
adding the printer
make sure the Print Using is the appropriate QTR driver.

Roy

On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM, tboleyyh <tyler@...> wrote:

> I have a more complicated setup, and have not been able to make it work
> with QTR or the OEM driver, so it's not a QTR issue but I might as well
> throw it out here anyway...
> I have 3 LF Epsons connected to a PC, 2 through a router, one USB, all
> works fine from the PC. My main computers are Macs, and the PC is networked
> to them. I send files from the Mac to the PC to then open and print there
> with another RIP.
> WHen I try to find those printers here on the Mac, to also use QTR to them
> from the Mac, Bonjour does not see them. If I use "windows". I can select
> the PC and it does see those printers, I then select which software to use
> etc. Now they do show up on the list, and show as idle.. but nothing can
> print to them, neither the OEM driver or QTR, the Epson utilities don't see
> the printer either.. odd since the printer setup does seems to see it..
> ANy ideas? Too complicated?
> Thanks,
> Tyler
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Myron  Gochnauer" <goch@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Roy.  The Bonjour method is much easier, and the one I use for
> everything else! It didn't work for me because I was running the QTR script
> *before* I had installed the Quad printer.  Sheesh!
> >
> > For those of you listening in, the following *seems* to be the best way
> to install an Epson 4880 on a Mac for use with K7 inks (i.e. 7 black inks
> instead of colour):
> >
> > **********************
> > Go to SystemPreferences / Print-&-Scan / "+" (at bottom of box on the
> left) / Add Printer or Scanner
> >
> >       Choose the EpsonStylusPro4880 that is a Bonjour printer (rather
> than Epson TCP/IP)
> >       Change the name to Quad4880-K7.
> >       Let OS X install the printer (with the new name).
> >
> > In Finder, go to the folder Applications/QuadToneRIP/Profiles/4880-K7/
> >
> >       Double Click on "Install4880-K7.command".
> >       This command script will do two things:
> >               1) create profiles from the curve description files in
> that subdirectory, and
> >               2) create ~/Library/Printers/Quad4880-K7.app
> >
> > Now "Quad4880-K7" will be an available printer choice, and the curves
> defined in the directory containing "Install4880-K7.command" will appear in
> the printer dialogue.
> > ***********************
> >
> > IS THIS ACCURATE?
> >
> > I'm trying to create little sets of very specific instructions for
> myself, since I tend to forget what I did months ago, even though it may
> have seemed so obvious at the time. :-)
> >
> > Myron
>



-- 
Roy Harrington
roy@...
www.harrington.com


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Re: Printing over network

2013-06-16 by tboleyyh

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tyler,
> 
> A couple quick questions:
> Are the printers "through a router" on the ethernet or USB on the router?

well it's a bit complex... 3 macs and the pc are all on one router.. 

then printers in question connected to the PC, 2 are connected via a second router via TCP/IP, the 3rd is straight to the PC via USB.

> I'm guessing the router isn't an Apple Airport.  ??

No, a hardwire Linksys, both.

> Do you use Bonjour on the PC or the Epson TCP/IP connection?

no and frankly I'm not sure how to do that, I don't see a related option in the printer port config, but I'm pretty lame at this stuff. Then see below about installing Bonjour for windows...

> Do you have Bonjour enabled on the printer (thru the front panel)?

Yes, and using the EpsonNet utility on the PC, it shows as enabled for each ethernet connected printer. The USB connected 7800, can't find a way to verify bonjour is on with that, including on the front panel or in the PC config..
 
> Does printer setup on the Mac see it as a Bonjour printer?

no the Mac sees none of them on the list in the Bonjour setup section.

> I guess that's more than a couple.  Just wondering how much Bonjour is
> working or not.

I tried a few more things after seeing your questions. Downloaded Bonjour for Windows and set one print up on it on the PC, it still doesn't come up on the list under Bonjour. I tried Mac setup one of the ethernet printers, entering it's address in the IP section. That seemed to work, I set it up with the OEM driver. The Epson Utility opens as though it sees it, but I get a communication error trying to send it a nozzle check.
I wonder if there are just too many devices between the Mac and those ethernet Epsons... router, PC, then router..
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> Roy
> 
> PS.  Thanks Myron spelling it out again.  I'd add that when in Print&Scan
> adding the printer
> make sure the Print Using is the appropriate QTR driver.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM, tboleyyh <tyler@...> wrote:
> 
> > I have a more complicated setup, and have not been able to make it work
> > with QTR or the OEM driver, so it's not a QTR issue but I might as well
> > throw it out here anyway...
> > I have 3 LF Epsons connected to a PC, 2 through a router, one USB, all
> > works fine from the PC. My main computers are Macs, and the PC is networked
> > to them. I send files from the Mac to the PC to then open and print there
> > with another RIP.
> > WHen I try to find those printers here on the Mac, to also use QTR to them
> > from the Mac, Bonjour does not see them. If I use "windows". I can select
> > the PC and it does see those printers, I then select which software to use
> > etc. Now they do show up on the list, and show as idle.. but nothing can
> > print to them, neither the OEM driver or QTR, the Epson utilities don't see
> > the printer either.. odd since the printer setup does seems to see it..
> > ANy ideas? Too complicated?
> > Thanks,
> > Tyler
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Myron  Gochnauer" <goch@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Roy.  The Bonjour method is much easier, and the one I use for
> > everything else! It didn't work for me because I was running the QTR script
> > *before* I had installed the Quad printer.  Sheesh!
> > >
> > > For those of you listening in, the following *seems* to be the best way
> > to install an Epson 4880 on a Mac for use with K7 inks (i.e. 7 black inks
> > instead of colour):
> > >
> > > **********************
> > > Go to SystemPreferences / Print-&-Scan / "+" (at bottom of box on the
> > left) / Add Printer or Scanner
> > >
> > >       Choose the EpsonStylusPro4880 that is a Bonjour printer (rather
> > than Epson TCP/IP)
> > >       Change the name to Quad4880-K7.
> > >       Let OS X install the printer (with the new name).
> > >
> > > In Finder, go to the folder Applications/QuadToneRIP/Profiles/4880-K7/
> > >
> > >       Double Click on "Install4880-K7.command".
> > >       This command script will do two things:
> > >               1) create profiles from the curve description files in
> > that subdirectory, and
> > >               2) create ~/Library/Printers/Quad4880-K7.app
> > >
> > > Now "Quad4880-K7" will be an available printer choice, and the curves
> > defined in the directory containing "Install4880-K7.command" will appear in
> > the printer dialogue.
> > > ***********************
> > >
> > > IS THIS ACCURATE?
> > >
> > > I'm trying to create little sets of very specific instructions for
> > myself, since I tend to forget what I did months ago, even though it may
> > have seemed so obvious at the time. :-)
> > >
> > > Myron
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Roy Harrington
> roy@...
> www.harrington.com
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Printing over network

2013-06-16 by Roy Harrington

Does sound a bit complicated.
If I understand correctly you've got 2 ethernet networks:
1 -- macs & pc
2 -- pc & printers.
So for the macs to talk to the printers they'd have to go through the PC.
I'm no expert on bonjour but I'd guess it doesn't do that.

An idea:
Do you need two networks?  Is is just that you don't have enough ports?
You need one full router to go to the internet, but sounds like the other
one is basically just
a switch/hub.  How about connecting the switch/hub router to the first
router and then between
the two of them you have enough ports for all the other computers and
printers come off one
or the other routers.

Roy





On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:17 PM, tboleyyh <tyler@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tyler,
> >
> > A couple quick questions:
> > Are the printers "through a router" on the ethernet or USB on the router?
>
> well it's a bit complex... 3 macs and the pc are all on one router..
>
> then printers in question connected to the PC, 2 are connected via a
> second router via TCP/IP, the 3rd is straight to the PC via USB.
>
> > I'm guessing the router isn't an Apple Airport.  ??
>
> No, a hardwire Linksys, both.
>
> > Do you use Bonjour on the PC or the Epson TCP/IP connection?
>
> no and frankly I'm not sure how to do that, I don't see a related option
> in the printer port config, but I'm pretty lame at this stuff. Then see
> below about installing Bonjour for windows...
>
> > Do you have Bonjour enabled on the printer (thru the front panel)?
>
> Yes, and using the EpsonNet utility on the PC, it shows as enabled for
> each ethernet connected printer. The USB connected 7800, can't find a way
> to verify bonjour is on with that, including on the front panel or in the
> PC config..
>
> > Does printer setup on the Mac see it as a Bonjour printer?
>
> no the Mac sees none of them on the list in the Bonjour setup section.
>
> > I guess that's more than a couple.  Just wondering how much Bonjour is
> > working or not.
>
> I tried a few more things after seeing your questions. Downloaded Bonjour
> for Windows and set one print up on it on the PC, it still doesn't come up
> on the list under Bonjour. I tried Mac setup one of the ethernet printers,
> entering it's address in the IP section. That seemed to work, I set it up
> with the OEM driver. The Epson Utility opens as though it sees it, but I
> get a communication error trying to send it a nozzle check.
> I wonder if there are just too many devices between the Mac and those
> ethernet Epsons... router, PC, then router..
>
> > Roy
> >
> > PS.  Thanks Myron spelling it out again.  I'd add that when in Print&Scan
> > adding the printer
> > make sure the Print Using is the appropriate QTR driver.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM, tboleyyh <tyler@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I have a more complicated setup, and have not been able to make it work
> > > with QTR or the OEM driver, so it's not a QTR issue but I might as well
> > > throw it out here anyway...
> > > I have 3 LF Epsons connected to a PC, 2 through a router, one USB, all
> > > works fine from the PC. My main computers are Macs, and the PC is
> networked
> > > to them. I send files from the Mac to the PC to then open and print
> there
> > > with another RIP.
> > > WHen I try to find those printers here on the Mac, to also use QTR to
> them
> > > from the Mac, Bonjour does not see them. If I use "windows". I can
> select
> > > the PC and it does see those printers, I then select which software to
> use
> > > etc. Now they do show up on the list, and show as idle.. but nothing
> can
> > > print to them, neither the OEM driver or QTR, the Epson utilities
> don't see
> > > the printer either.. odd since the printer setup does seems to see it..
> > > ANy ideas? Too complicated?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tyler
> > >
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Myron  Gochnauer" <goch@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Roy.  The Bonjour method is much easier, and the one I use
> for
> > > everything else! It didn't work for me because I was running the QTR
> script
> > > *before* I had installed the Quad printer.  Sheesh!
> > > >
> > > > For those of you listening in, the following *seems* to be the best
> way
> > > to install an Epson 4880 on a Mac for use with K7 inks (i.e. 7 black
> inks
> > > instead of colour):
> > > >
> > > > **********************
> > > > Go to SystemPreferences / Print-&-Scan / "+" (at bottom of box on the
> > > left) / Add Printer or Scanner
> > > >
> > > >       Choose the EpsonStylusPro4880 that is a Bonjour printer (rather
> > > than Epson TCP/IP)
> > > >       Change the name to Quad4880-K7.
> > > >       Let OS X install the printer (with the new name).
> > > >
> > > > In Finder, go to the folder
> Applications/QuadToneRIP/Profiles/4880-K7/
> > > >
> > > >       Double Click on "Install4880-K7.command".
> > > >       This command script will do two things:
> > > >               1) create profiles from the curve description files in
> > > that subdirectory, and
> > > >               2) create ~/Library/Printers/Quad4880-K7.app
> > > >
> > > > Now "Quad4880-K7" will be an available printer choice, and the curves
> > > defined in the directory containing "Install4880-K7.command" will
> appear in
> > > the printer dialogue.
> > > > ***********************
> > > >
> > > > IS THIS ACCURATE?
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to create little sets of very specific instructions for
> > > myself, since I tend to forget what I did months ago, even though it
> may
> > > have seemed so obvious at the time. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Myron
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Roy Harrington
> > roy@...
> > www.harrington.com
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Re: Printing over network

2013-06-16 by tboleyyh

That setup just sort of evolved... all the computers had to be networked, from the internet modem...
Then at some point I had to connect more printers to the PC and had the switch hanging around.
Your suggestion sounds perfectly reasonable.. I'll try it Monday, that Roy
T

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
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>
> Does sound a bit complicated.
> If I understand correctly you've got 2 ethernet networks:
> 1 -- macs & pc
> 2 -- pc & printers.
> So for the macs to talk to the printers they'd have to go through the PC.
> I'm no expert on bonjour but I'd guess it doesn't do that.
> 
> An idea:
> Do you need two networks?  Is is just that you don't have enough ports?
> You need one full router to go to the internet, but sounds like the other
> one is basically just
> a switch/hub.  How about connecting the switch/hub router to the first
> router and then between
> the two of them you have enough ports for all the other computers and
> printers come off one
> or the other routers.
> 
> Roy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:17 PM, tboleyyh <tyler@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Tyler,
> > >
> > > A couple quick questions:
> > > Are the printers "through a router" on the ethernet or USB on the router?
> >
> > well it's a bit complex... 3 macs and the pc are all on one router..
> >
> > then printers in question connected to the PC, 2 are connected via a
> > second router via TCP/IP, the 3rd is straight to the PC via USB.
> >
> > > I'm guessing the router isn't an Apple Airport.  ??
> >
> > No, a hardwire Linksys, both.
> >
> > > Do you use Bonjour on the PC or the Epson TCP/IP connection?
> >
> > no and frankly I'm not sure how to do that, I don't see a related option
> > in the printer port config, but I'm pretty lame at this stuff. Then see
> > below about installing Bonjour for windows...
> >
> > > Do you have Bonjour enabled on the printer (thru the front panel)?
> >
> > Yes, and using the EpsonNet utility on the PC, it shows as enabled for
> > each ethernet connected printer. The USB connected 7800, can't find a way
> > to verify bonjour is on with that, including on the front panel or in the
> > PC config..
> >
> > > Does printer setup on the Mac see it as a Bonjour printer?
> >
> > no the Mac sees none of them on the list in the Bonjour setup section.
> >
> > > I guess that's more than a couple.  Just wondering how much Bonjour is
> > > working or not.
> >
> > I tried a few more things after seeing your questions. Downloaded Bonjour
> > for Windows and set one print up on it on the PC, it still doesn't come up
> > on the list under Bonjour. I tried Mac setup one of the ethernet printers,
> > entering it's address in the IP section. That seemed to work, I set it up
> > with the OEM driver. The Epson Utility opens as though it sees it, but I
> > get a communication error trying to send it a nozzle check.
> > I wonder if there are just too many devices between the Mac and those
> > ethernet Epsons... router, PC, then router..
> >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > PS.  Thanks Myron spelling it out again.  I'd add that when in Print&Scan
> > > adding the printer
> > > make sure the Print Using is the appropriate QTR driver.
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM, tboleyyh <tyler@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a more complicated setup, and have not been able to make it work
> > > > with QTR or the OEM driver, so it's not a QTR issue but I might as well
> > > > throw it out here anyway...
> > > > I have 3 LF Epsons connected to a PC, 2 through a router, one USB, all
> > > > works fine from the PC. My main computers are Macs, and the PC is
> > networked
> > > > to them. I send files from the Mac to the PC to then open and print
> > there
> > > > with another RIP.
> > > > WHen I try to find those printers here on the Mac, to also use QTR to
> > them
> > > > from the Mac, Bonjour does not see them. If I use "windows". I can
> > select
> > > > the PC and it does see those printers, I then select which software to
> > use
> > > > etc. Now they do show up on the list, and show as idle.. but nothing
> > can
> > > > print to them, neither the OEM driver or QTR, the Epson utilities
> > don't see
> > > > the printer either.. odd since the printer setup does seems to see it..
> > > > ANy ideas? Too complicated?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Tyler
> > > >
> > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Myron  Gochnauer" <goch@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Roy.  The Bonjour method is much easier, and the one I use
> > for
> > > > everything else! It didn't work for me because I was running the QTR
> > script
> > > > *before* I had installed the Quad printer.  Sheesh!
> > > > >
> > > > > For those of you listening in, the following *seems* to be the best
> > way
> > > > to install an Epson 4880 on a Mac for use with K7 inks (i.e. 7 black
> > inks
> > > > instead of colour):
> > > > >
> > > > > **********************
> > > > > Go to SystemPreferences / Print-&-Scan / "+" (at bottom of box on the
> > > > left) / Add Printer or Scanner
> > > > >
> > > > >       Choose the EpsonStylusPro4880 that is a Bonjour printer (rather
> > > > than Epson TCP/IP)
> > > > >       Change the name to Quad4880-K7.
> > > > >       Let OS X install the printer (with the new name).
> > > > >
> > > > > In Finder, go to the folder
> > Applications/QuadToneRIP/Profiles/4880-K7/
> > > > >
> > > > >       Double Click on "Install4880-K7.command".
> > > > >       This command script will do two things:
> > > > >               1) create profiles from the curve description files in
> > > > that subdirectory, and
> > > > >               2) create ~/Library/Printers/Quad4880-K7.app
> > > > >
> > > > > Now "Quad4880-K7" will be an available printer choice, and the curves
> > > > defined in the directory containing "Install4880-K7.command" will
> > appear in
> > > > the printer dialogue.
> > > > > ***********************
> > > > >
> > > > > IS THIS ACCURATE?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to create little sets of very specific instructions for
> > > > myself, since I tend to forget what I did months ago, even though it
> > may
> > > > have seemed so obvious at the time. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Myron
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roy Harrington
> > > roy@
> > > www.harrington.com
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Roy Harrington
> roy@...
> www.harrington.com
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: Printing over network

2013-06-17 by tboleyyh

this worked perfectly Roy. The somewhat finnicky TCP/IP ports still worked right off the bat on the PC, and the printers connected to the switcher immediately came up on the list in the Mac as bonjour printers, available to add. I've not yet printed through QTR to one, but will try that soon.
Can I bonjour "add" the same printer twice, giving a different name, one with Epson software selected and one with QTR named as the tutorial instructs?
The 7800 connected directly to the PC via USB still is not showing up via bonjour, but I'm not concerned about that printer yet.
Thanks Roy, been wanting to do this for some time, now I'll be able to work more with the 9900 and QTR..
Tyler

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
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>
> Does sound a bit complicated.
> If I understand correctly you've got 2 ethernet networks:
> 1 -- macs & pc
> 2 -- pc & printers.
> So for the macs to talk to the printers they'd have to go through the PC.
> I'm no expert on bonjour but I'd guess it doesn't do that.
> 
> An idea:
> Do you need two networks?  Is is just that you don't have enough ports?
> You need one full router to go to the internet, but sounds like the other
> one is basically just
> a switch/hub.  How about connecting the switch/hub router to the first
> router and then between
> the two of them you have enough ports for all the other computers and
> printers come off one
> or the other routers.
> 
> Roy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:17 PM, tboleyyh <tyler@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Tyler,
> > >
> > > A couple quick questions:
> > > Are the printers "through a router" on the ethernet or USB on the router?
> >
> > well it's a bit complex... 3 macs and the pc are all on one router..
> >
> > then printers in question connected to the PC, 2 are connected via a
> > second router via TCP/IP, the 3rd is straight to the PC via USB.
> >
> > > I'm guessing the router isn't an Apple Airport.  ??
> >
> > No, a hardwire Linksys, both.
> >
> > > Do you use Bonjour on the PC or the Epson TCP/IP connection?
> >
> > no and frankly I'm not sure how to do that, I don't see a related option
> > in the printer port config, but I'm pretty lame at this stuff. Then see
> > below about installing Bonjour for windows...
> >
> > > Do you have Bonjour enabled on the printer (thru the front panel)?
> >
> > Yes, and using the EpsonNet utility on the PC, it shows as enabled for
> > each ethernet connected printer. The USB connected 7800, can't find a way
> > to verify bonjour is on with that, including on the front panel or in the
> > PC config..
> >
> > > Does printer setup on the Mac see it as a Bonjour printer?
> >
> > no the Mac sees none of them on the list in the Bonjour setup section.
> >
> > > I guess that's more than a couple.  Just wondering how much Bonjour is
> > > working or not.
> >
> > I tried a few more things after seeing your questions. Downloaded Bonjour
> > for Windows and set one print up on it on the PC, it still doesn't come up
> > on the list under Bonjour. I tried Mac setup one of the ethernet printers,
> > entering it's address in the IP section. That seemed to work, I set it up
> > with the OEM driver. The Epson Utility opens as though it sees it, but I
> > get a communication error trying to send it a nozzle check.
> > I wonder if there are just too many devices between the Mac and those
> > ethernet Epsons... router, PC, then router..
> >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > PS.  Thanks Myron spelling it out again.  I'd add that when in Print&Scan
> > > adding the printer
> > > make sure the Print Using is the appropriate QTR driver.
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM, tboleyyh <tyler@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a more complicated setup, and have not been able to make it work
> > > > with QTR or the OEM driver, so it's not a QTR issue but I might as well
> > > > throw it out here anyway...
> > > > I have 3 LF Epsons connected to a PC, 2 through a router, one USB, all
> > > > works fine from the PC. My main computers are Macs, and the PC is
> > networked
> > > > to them. I send files from the Mac to the PC to then open and print
> > there
> > > > with another RIP.
> > > > WHen I try to find those printers here on the Mac, to also use QTR to
> > them
> > > > from the Mac, Bonjour does not see them. If I use "windows". I can
> > select
> > > > the PC and it does see those printers, I then select which software to
> > use
> > > > etc. Now they do show up on the list, and show as idle.. but nothing
> > can
> > > > print to them, neither the OEM driver or QTR, the Epson utilities
> > don't see
> > > > the printer either.. odd since the printer setup does seems to see it..
> > > > ANy ideas? Too complicated?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Tyler
> > > >
> > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Myron  Gochnauer" <goch@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Roy.  The Bonjour method is much easier, and the one I use
> > for
> > > > everything else! It didn't work for me because I was running the QTR
> > script
> > > > *before* I had installed the Quad printer.  Sheesh!
> > > > >
> > > > > For those of you listening in, the following *seems* to be the best
> > way
> > > > to install an Epson 4880 on a Mac for use with K7 inks (i.e. 7 black
> > inks
> > > > instead of colour):
> > > > >
> > > > > **********************
> > > > > Go to SystemPreferences / Print-&-Scan / "+" (at bottom of box on the
> > > > left) / Add Printer or Scanner
> > > > >
> > > > >       Choose the EpsonStylusPro4880 that is a Bonjour printer (rather
> > > > than Epson TCP/IP)
> > > > >       Change the name to Quad4880-K7.
> > > > >       Let OS X install the printer (with the new name).
> > > > >
> > > > > In Finder, go to the folder
> > Applications/QuadToneRIP/Profiles/4880-K7/
> > > > >
> > > > >       Double Click on "Install4880-K7.command".
> > > > >       This command script will do two things:
> > > > >               1) create profiles from the curve description files in
> > > > that subdirectory, and
> > > > >               2) create ~/Library/Printers/Quad4880-K7.app
> > > > >
> > > > > Now "Quad4880-K7" will be an available printer choice, and the curves
> > > > defined in the directory containing "Install4880-K7.command" will
> > appear in
> > > > the printer dialogue.
> > > > > ***********************
> > > > >
> > > > > IS THIS ACCURATE?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to create little sets of very specific instructions for
> > > > myself, since I tend to forget what I did months ago, even though it
> > may
> > > > have seemed so obvious at the time. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Myron
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roy Harrington
> > > roy@
> > > www.harrington.com
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Roy Harrington
> roy@...
> www.harrington.com
> 
> 
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