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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: New to Linearize Piezo K7 inks with Eye One 2 X-Rite software

2015-05-27 by Ernst Dinkla

Not for QTR but to create B&W profiles for my HP Zs + Qimage Ultimate with QTR's profile creator. For measuring I'm using PatchTool meanwhile. The latest version of MeasureTool running on Windows 7 delivered locked measurement files. Could not figure out what caused that. I can run it on the XP + Virtual PC emulation in W7 but that gives more trouble with file exchanges. ColorPort created other issues, mainly with the averaging of target patches. ArgyllCMS does not do that well either and I have to do more tweaking on the files for the QTR tools. PatchTool is way more versatile and I trust Babelcolor on keeping it up to date. However it is not free, but my time is neither. For creating my own targets I actually use patch data made with ArgyllCMS, import them in PatchTool, rearrange them in PatchTool and after printing measure them with PatchTool. There is an averaging feature in PatchTool but with the 34 steps target I use now it does not bring more quality in the profile as far as I could measure. Using an Eye1 Pro but PatchTool and ArgyllCMS cover the latest spectrometers too.

Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

December 2014 update, 700+ inkjet media white spectral plots



On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 7:37 AM, tracy@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

"For those on Mac's instead of trying to re-linearize K7 .quad files which is hard to do,

go the ICC route. Just create a custom grayscale ICC built on top of the existing .quad file.
Then print using this ICC.

...The MeasureTool issue is still a pain -- I run Parallels on the Mac with WinXP running so
"

OK: I hate to be the dullest blade in the drawer, but here goes...

I'm using Piezography. Right now I create my image and print it thru PrintTool w/NCM. Seems OK to me, but if I can make it better. (I just got a shiny new i1 Photo Pro, so I want to play...)

Does "... create a custom grayscale ICC built on top of the existing .quad file" mean to print out a target thru a .quad file for a given paper, just as if I were printing a photo? Then measure that result into an .ICC profile?

If so, then will such a profile make use of all the K7 inks when I print? Exactly where do I choose to use that profile? In the PS dialog, or in the PT driver?

Doesn't an ICC profile run off to the Profile Connection Space, which is a color space? Are not the Piezography curves just curves (amounts of ink) and doesn't that completely bypass the PCS?

I feel like this 70 year old brain is beating around the edges of what's being said here. Just not wrapping my brain around how this works, out here in the real world, one step after another.

and then I get to "The MeasureTool issue is..." Now I'm really confused. I thought the Measure Tool wasn't involved in the creation of an ICC profile. Wouldn't that be used if I were trying to directly linearize the curves instead of generate a profile?

Likely someone is slapping their forehead right now, but if I don't ask, I won't learn...

Thanks for your patience.


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