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Jim et all,

Glad to hear you're getting the Model 14 - I expect a full report 
here on the list...unless of course if you don't like it - then shut 
the hell up, please.

just kidding.

I think you'll dig it.  Did I mention how  pleased I was how the 
crossfader turned out?

As far as what's coming next, all you guys had to do is ask!  The 
bottom line, now that I've got staff to handle production, I've been 
freed to complete new products.

Next up:

Model 10 Polyphonic EG - a week or so

Model 24 Heisenberg Generator (in about six weeks)

Model 18 Stereo mixer with 18A VC Expander (more on that in a 
second) - about two month's time

Model 16 Spectral Multiplexor and 16A Breakout - about two 
month's time.

Model  TBD Evil Twin "Blank Blank" - i'm still keeing this one 
behind a curtain for now, mainly because I'm digging all the 
spectulation on what it is. - You'll all know in about 2 1/2 to 3 
months when it's released.

Model 21 Milton Venti - three months

Model 23 Dual ASR - three months

There may be some joint ventures coming out as well, those 
with other synth manufacturers which will be released in multiple 
formats. 

On the Model 18...

We ran a poll a few months back to decide which format to 
realease the output mixer series.  That poll pointed towards the 
larger output system with the headphone amp and balanced 
outs.  Since then however I've received a lot of requests offline 
not to scrap the fourchannel pannable stereo mixer, so...I'm not.  
the first release will be a stand alone four channel stereo mixer 
(Model 16) and the 16A Expander, which will add four VC pan 
inputs, each with separate atttenuation pots and four VC Level 
inputs.  Most of the electronics will be on the main unit, the M16, 
so the expander will be  very affordable. 

The Main unit is 18HP and the 16A Expander is 8 HP.    Both 
inncorpoate EQUAL POWER TRANSFER PANNING - No dead 
spot in the center .  It's a really clean panning system

We will also be doing the larger output system, buut under 
another model number.  I've deciided that both can inhabit the 
same system.  You can't have enough mixers or processors in a 
moduylar synth.  

...especially Processors.

Did I mention our Processor's been released? 

Seriously, my system has four mixers annd beleive it or not, 10 
processors and I still find myself running short.
- P

Ordered one earlier today from Analogue Haven, who list them as in-stock.

OK Peter, what comes next?  I still have a gap in the eurorack.

Hi Peter

How would the Model 24 compare say to the Doepfer 149-1?

As I am just about to buy 2 of your models from AH and the Doepfer, but 
if you can persuade me :-)

Ross



(i think you can figure that out) wrote:

>
> Jim et all,
>
> Glad to hear you're getting the Model 14 - I expect a full report
> here on the list...unless of course if you don't like it - then shut
> the hell up, please.
>
> just kidding.
>
> I think you'll dig it. Did I mention how pleased I was how the
> crossfader turned out?
>
> As far as what's coming next, all you guys had to do is ask! The
> bottom line, now that I've got staff to handle production, I've been
> freed to complete new products.
>
> Next up:
>
> Model 10 Polyphonic EG - a week or so
>
> Model 24 Heisenberg Generator (in about six weeks)
>
> Model 18 Stereo mixer with 18A VC Expander (more on that in a
> second) - about two month's time
>
> Model 16 Spectral Multiplexor and 16A Breakout - about two
> month's time.
>
> Model TBD Evil Twin "Blank Blank" - i'm still keeing this one
> behind a curtain for now, mainly because I'm digging all the
> spectulation on what it is. - You'll all know in about 2 1/2 to 3
> months when it's released.
>
> Model 21 Milton Venti - three months
>
> Model 23 Dual ASR - three months
>
> There may be some joint ventures coming out as well, those
> with other synth manufacturers which will be released in multiple
> formats.
>
> On the Model 18...
>
> We ran a poll a few months back to decide which format to
> realease the output mixer series. That poll pointed towards the
> larger output system with the headphone amp and balanced
> outs. Since then however I've received a lot of requests offline
> not to scrap the fourchannel pannable stereo mixer, so...I'm not.
> the first release will be a stand alone four channel stereo mixer
> (Model 16) and the 16A Expander, which will add four VC pan
> inputs, each with separate atttenuation pots and four VC Level
> inputs. Most of the electronics will be on the main unit, the M16,
> so the expander will be very affordable.
>
> The Main unit is 18HP and the 16A Expander is 8 HP. Both
> inncorpoate EQUAL POWER TRANSFER PANNING - No dead
> spot in the center . It's a really clean panning system
>
> We will also be doing the larger output system, buut under
> another model number. I've deciided that both can inhabit the
> same system. You can't have enough mixers or processors in a
> moduylar synth.
>
> ...especially Processors.
>
> Did I mention our Processor's been released?
>
> Seriously, my system has four mixers annd beleive it or not, 10
> processors and I still find myself running short.
> - P
>
>

As I am just about to buy 2 of your models from AH and the 
Doepfer, but 
> if you can persuade me :-)
> 
> Ross


Ross,

I cant do that!  I've got the highest respect for Dieter as a person, 
as an engineer and as a musician.  I'd rather shoot my dog than 
persuade anyone not to enjoy them.

So...get both!

As silly as that may seem, there's a reason I said this.  They're 
different.  Although they both consist of two independent random 
generators, botsides of the the A149-1 are stepped (with two 
output variations each)  while mine has one stepped and one 
smoothed output, and there's only one out for each generator in 
the Model 24 while Dieter has options for each side.

Secondly,  the 149-1 duplicates the Buchla  66 response (only 8 
bits wide, so it selects from only 256 possible events) Mine is 2 x 
16 bits wide, it selects from a possible 64,000 

One of the two 149-1generators are quantized into half steps 
and octaves (two outputs).  Mine is not quantized

Dieter provides for VC of depth in one of the two generators (in 
Heisenberg speak that's Deviation)  and Distribution in the other 
(In Heisenberg, that's Mean) - mine has VC of all it's parameters, 
including Deviation and Mean in both the stepped and smooth 
sides.

Dieter's isn't self contained - it requires an external clock to 
operate.  Mine can accept an external clock, but it will also run on 
it's own without one.  

Mine can sample external voltages or draw from it's internal 
random generator, his only samples from the internal voltages

The most important thing to note about the A-14901 however - 
it's an excellent module.  Very musicaland a lot of fun.

They're simular...but  different enough that both would 
complement each other nicely. The only two absolute parametric 
simularities are they are both random generators and they are 
the same width.

hope this helps(?),

- P

Hi Peter

I wasnt asking you to slag off Dieter, I just wanted to know the
differences,,,,

I have gon ahead and bought the 149-1 as I want it yesterday, I do
look forward to seeing themodl 14 whan it arrives

-many thanks RJH