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broken hearted

2009-04-11 by Christopher Jacob Recording Device

I don't feel good about being on this e-mail list any longer. Peter you are free to screen this if that's what you want to do. I'm not a "hater" or anything of the sort. I love what you've been trying to do for the modular community with your products but there's too much drama some from you some from customers or would-be customers. It's with a lump in my throat that I'm going to request to be taken off this list serve. After Bananalogue disappeared your company seemed to me to be the best thing going as far as unconventional musical devices go but I don't feel good about being on this list any longer because I no longer feel good about the possibility of giving you any more of my money. I'm expecting an ASR from you guys and I look forward to using it a great deal but well, I guess I've stated my feelings already. I wish you the best of luck geting your company back up and filling all those back orders.

it's been real even when the real has been "not nice"

I'm sorry,
Chris (aka ex_dead_teenager)

--
"War will end when people refuse to fight"
--Anonymous

Re: broken hearted

2009-04-16 by mrfossy86

--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Jacob Recording Device <I.AM.USING.THE.INTERNETS@...> wrote:
>
> I don't feel good about being on this e-mail list any longer. Peter you are
> free to screen this if that's what you want to do. I'm not a "hater" or
> anything of the sort. I love what you've been trying to do for the modular
> community with your products but there's too much drama some from you some
> from customers or would-be customers. It's with a lump in my throat that I'm
> going to request to be taken off this list serve. After Bananalogue
> disappeared your company seemed to me to be the best thing going as far as
> unconventional musical devices go but I don't feel good about being on this
> list any longer because I no longer feel good about the possibility of
> giving you any more of my money. I'm expecting an ASR from you guys and I
> look forward to using it a great deal but well, I guess I've stated my
> feelings already. I wish you the best of luck geting your company back up
> and filling all those back orders.
> 
> it's been real even when the real has been "not nice"
> 
> I'm sorry,
> Chris (aka ex_dead_teenager)
> 
> -- 
> "War will end when people refuse to fight"
> --Anonymous
>

The ASR rocks, you will enjoy it very much, I suspect. Other than that, this reminds me of the valedictory forum posts some people make when they want to delete their toon in World of Warcraft (nerdy gaming reference). If you want to go, you needn't even request to take your leave - Yahoo Groups provides convenient group management options that negate the need for departing words. For this, here, should be addressed to Peter (I'm sure you have his email somewhere) - you are not lending your opinions in the spirit of discussion.

Honestly, I've never been under the impression that I'm "giving" Plan B any money at all. The waiting times have been unfortunate, yes, but the fact remains that we are trading money for goods... The goods are just taking a bit longer than expected, is all :(

Then only people who have any grounds to complain are Australians - whose sunbaked golden currency was, at the time of payment, a shadow of its present self :P But we have an excellent social safety net, so it's all good. Uh, where was I?...

Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] broken hearted

2009-04-16 by Monroe Eskew

The consumer culture we've inherited and become apart of is a strange beast. Over the years, large businesses have competed with each other in part by trying to outdo the other guy in terms of customer satisfaction and service. The result is a population that has come to expect as normal that someone will hold their hand and make them a sandwich when purchasing a high-tech device. Furthermore, there is usually little incentive to understand how something works; we just expect it to be user-friendly and work perfectly.

Lately I have seen several small businesses suffer because they had a unrealistic view of modern consumer culture. With a small boutique firm having a select clientele, the proprietor may be able to either bully or sweet-talk his/her customers into "being cool." But if you're a large scale business like Apple or Honda, you don't have that option. Consumer culture is a reality to be dealt with, not changed, and all one can do is find the equilibrium point of supply and demand given the parameter of consumer expectations. The effect is of course a continuing escalation of consumer expectations.

And small businesses are forced to work with this reality as well. One cannot move the demand curve very much by persuasion. You have a little more leeway, but the hard reality of market forces limits you.
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Christopher Jacob Recording Device <I.AM.USING.THE.INTERNETS@gmail.com> wrote:


I don't feel good about being on this e-mail list any longer. Peter you are free to screen this if that's what you want to do. I'm not a "hater" or anything of the sort. I love what you've been trying to do for the modular community with your products but there';s too much drama some from you some from customers or would-be customers. It's with a lump in my throat that I'm going to request to be taken off this list serve. After Bananalogue disappeared your company seemed to me to be the best thing going as far as unconventional musical devices go but I don't feel good about being on this list any longer because I no longer feel good about the possibility of giving you any more of my money. I'm expecting an ASR from you guys and I look forward to using it a great deal but well, I guess I've stated my feelings already. I wish you the best of luck geting your company back up and filling all those back orders.

it's been real even when the real has been "not nice"

I'm sorry,
Chris (aka ex_dead_teenager)

--
"War will end when people refuse to fight"
--Anonymous


Re: broken hearted

2009-04-17 by laryn91

When I was in school, I worked in a dept store that was known for having a generous return policy. Once when I saw someone return a toaster that had a competitor's stamp on the box, I asked the store manager why he allows someone to return an item clearly bought elsewhere.

He said the average customer spends over $50K at the store over their lifetime. If the customer says he bought it here, he's not going to argue that. In other words he's not going to risk losing $50K over a stupid $25 toaster!

No need for an Adam Henry policy since the customer was always right. 


--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@...> wrote:
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>
> The consumer culture we've inherited and become apart of is a strange
> beast.  Over the years, large businesses have competed with each other in
> part by trying to outdo the other guy in terms of customer satisfaction and
> service.  The result is a population that has come to expect as normal that
> someone will hold their hand and make them a sandwich when purchasing a
> high-tech device.  Furthermore, there is usually little incentive to
> understand how something works; we just expect it to be user-friendly and
> work perfectly.
> 
> Lately I have seen several small businesses suffer because they had a
> unrealistic view of modern consumer culture.  With a small boutique firm
> having a select clientele, the proprietor may be able to either bully or
> sweet-talk his/her customers into "being cool."  But if you're a large scale
> business like Apple or Honda, you don't have that option.   Consumer culture
> is a reality to be dealt with, not changed, and all one can do is find the
> equilibrium point of supply and demand given the parameter of consumer
> expectations.  The effect is of course a continuing escalation of consumer
> expectations.
> 
> And small businesses are forced to work with this reality as well.  One
> cannot move the demand curve very much by persuasion.  You have a little
> more leeway, but the hard reality of market forces limits you.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Christopher Jacob Recording Device <
> I.AM.USING.THE.INTERNETS@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I don't feel good about being on this e-mail list any longer. Peter you are
> > free to screen this if that's what you want to do. I'm not a "hater" or
> > anything of the sort. I love what you've been trying to do for the modular
> > community with your products but there's too much drama some from you some
> > from customers or would-be customers. It's with a lump in my throat that I'm
> > going to request to be taken off this list serve. After Bananalogue
> > disappeared your company seemed to me to be the best thing going as far as
> > unconventional musical devices go but I don't feel good about being on this
> > list any longer because I no longer feel good about the possibility of
> > giving you any more of my money. I'm expecting an ASR from you guys and I
> > look forward to using it a great deal but well, I guess I've stated my
> > feelings already. I wish you the best of luck geting your company back up
> > and filling all those back orders.
> >
> > it's been real even when the real has been "not nice"
> >
> > I'm sorry,
> > Chris (aka ex_dead_teenager)
> >
> > --
> > "War will end when people refuse to fight"
> > --Anonymous
> >  
> >
>

Re: broken hearted

2009-04-18 by mrfossy86

However, department stores use their collective, bulk-buying ability to sell vast amounts of stock at a considerable profit. They also have a wide consumer-base by their very design. The department store has already made back its $25 in ten other toaster sales, within a large chain of stores. I'm assuming that you are making an analogy with EAR, of course. Please, correct me if I'm wrong :)

EAR isn't even close to being in the same league - in Australia it would skim the lower limit of what constitutes small business. It's more like a nanobusiness. On top of that, it caters towards a most esoteric market of analog synth freak-types. The Adam Henry policy, to me, is all about ensuring that potential buyers know that analog synths are a relatively involved sort of hobby, and that it helps a lot to spend the time learning how to maintain and repair one's equipment.

As for the draconian character of Adam Henry - I don't really mind. I've spent so long with the internet that I don't get offended too easily - least of all harsh wording.

--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "laryn91" <caymus91@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> When I was in school, I worked in a dept store that was known for having a generous return policy. Once when I saw someone return a toaster that had a competitor's stamp on the box, I asked the store manager why he allows someone to return an item clearly bought elsewhere.
> 
> He said the average customer spends over $50K at the store over their lifetime. If the customer says he bought it here, he's not going to argue that. In other words he's not going to risk losing $50K over a stupid $25 toaster!
> 
> No need for an Adam Henry policy since the customer was always right. 
> 
> 
> --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@> wrote:
> >
> > The consumer culture we've inherited and become apart of is a strange
> > beast.  Over the years, large businesses have competed with each other in
> > part by trying to outdo the other guy in terms of customer satisfaction and
> > service.  The result is a population that has come to expect as normal that
> > someone will hold their hand and make them a sandwich when purchasing a
> > high-tech device.  Furthermore, there is usually little incentive to
> > understand how something works; we just expect it to be user-friendly and
> > work perfectly.
> > 
> > Lately I have seen several small businesses suffer because they had a
> > unrealistic view of modern consumer culture.  With a small boutique firm
> > having a select clientele, the proprietor may be able to either bully or
> > sweet-talk his/her customers into "being cool."  But if you're a large scale
> > business like Apple or Honda, you don't have that option.   Consumer culture
> > is a reality to be dealt with, not changed, and all one can do is find the
> > equilibrium point of supply and demand given the parameter of consumer
> > expectations.  The effect is of course a continuing escalation of consumer
> > expectations.
> > 
> > And small businesses are forced to work with this reality as well.  One
> > cannot move the demand curve very much by persuasion.  You have a little
> > more leeway, but the hard reality of market forces limits you.
> > 
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Christopher Jacob Recording Device <
> > I.AM.USING.THE.INTERNETS@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't feel good about being on this e-mail list any longer. Peter you are
> > > free to screen this if that's what you want to do. I'm not a "hater" or
> > > anything of the sort. I love what you've been trying to do for the modular
> > > community with your products but there's too much drama some from you some
> > > from customers or would-be customers. It's with a lump in my throat that I'm
> > > going to request to be taken off this list serve. After Bananalogue
> > > disappeared your company seemed to me to be the best thing going as far as
> > > unconventional musical devices go but I don't feel good about being on this
> > > list any longer because I no longer feel good about the possibility of
> > > giving you any more of my money. I'm expecting an ASR from you guys and I
> > > look forward to using it a great deal but well, I guess I've stated my
> > > feelings already. I wish you the best of luck geting your company back up
> > > and filling all those back orders.
> > >
> > > it's been real even when the real has been "not nice"
> > >
> > > I'm sorry,
> > > Chris (aka ex_dead_teenager)
> > >
> > > --
> > > "War will end when people refuse to fight"
> > > --Anonymous
> > >  
> > >
> >
>

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