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Where to place the additional outputs isn't an issue as we can easily
grow the panel width.  I think what we're hearing though is a request
for a module the Model 30 isn't.  Let me give this idea some thought.
Possibly a bank of utility oscillators, digital or not, is something
we can consider in the future. 

We're currently making some tweeks to the M30 before we present audio
samples.  Once we do, what we've attempted to describe in words will
become immediately obvious.  Soon.  We just want to make sure we're
giving a good representation of its potential before we take it live.


- P






--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "Norman Fay"
<vietgrove@...> wrote:
>
> Well, one of the benefits I've found with using modular instruments is
> the ability to either use the elements to form one complex voice, or
> to split them out to form several simpler voices. For live use, I've
> found splitting stuff out to be a VERY useful thing - in the case of
> the M30, it's almost like a microcosm of a larger modular - individual
> outs as an add-on would enable it to function as a largely
> self-contained voice - just add a couple of EGs and a timbral gate -
> or as three separate VCOs - the individual CV pitch inputs work as
> 1v/oct inputs if you turn them all the way up, as I remember?  Surely
> this would be a function which would add loads to the utility and fun
> value of an already great looking module?
> 
> Yes, I realise "where to put it" is probably a major issue, maybe a
> deal-breaker.
> 
> In any case, I'll be picking up either one or two of these anyway, but
> if individual outs were an option, even an individual out for only one
> of the three oscs, I'd pay for it, for sure, it would be well worth
> it.
> 
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:18 PM, (i think you can figure that out)
> <peter@...> wrote:
> > Regarding these original comments made by Carlos, Chris and Norman:
> >
> > The issue that Chris eluded to is valid.  The cost of the additional
> > converters had to be justified by their utility.  While three of the
> > constituent component are Voltage Controlled Oscillators, they like
> > their companion VCAs are just sub components of a larger design and
> > while it's conceivable that any additional outputs and inputs could be
> > construed into a useful patch, they do not substantiate nor
> > augment the M30's basic function, that being an easily programmed,
> > complex sound generator. These additional converters would merely
> > serve to increase the panel cost and time to complete an extraneous
> > benefit.
> >
> > If a car could make coffee it would be a benfit, but it wouldn't make
> > it better transportation?
> >
> > You also have to look into the other side of the coin.  Given the
> > M30's unique benefit stated above, if you were using them instead as
> > three independent VCOs, all doing their own thing, each coming out of
> > their own output, it would create a management issue if you were to
> > switch on the fly to another patch which required some of the VCOs to
> > instead be used as modulators because they would still be routed to
> > the outside world as independent voices.
> >
> > With three outputs, this is a problem.  With one output these types of
> > management issues are addressed...it's not a problem.
> >
> >
> > - P
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "Norman Fay"
> > <vietgrove@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't know if the board's finalised at this point, but if not, a
> >> connector with the (possible) option to add a sub board w/one or two
> >> DAs for seperate outputs would be great.  Obviously the M30 as is
is a
> >> fantastic looking piece, extra outs, even if only available as an
> >> add-on would be an even more fantastic option IMO.
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Chris Muir <cbm@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On May 5, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Carlos wrote:
> >> >> any chance of adding individual outputs for each oscillator?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Three D/A convertors instead of one. (and that one might be
built into
> >> > the CPU)
> >> >
> >> > Sounds expensive.
> >> >
> >> > -C
> >> >
> >> > Chris Muir
> >> > cbm@
> >> > http://www.xfade.com
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