It's interesting, this is the second blog which I've seen this comparison being drawn. The similarities to the Buchla 291 go as far as it's vactrol based bandpass filter, with one of them used as an AGC (Automatic Gain Control) on the front end. The circuit I used for that however is from the Perkin-Elmer Vactrol Application Note #1, not the 291. The Model 12 also has an internal AGC, but it's manual, not voltage controlled. In that bandwidth was not voltage controlled on the 12 there was no need. On the Model 12 it's done with a dual pot, one half controlling the resonance level, the other half controlling the input gain slightly - much like a fine tune on a VCO. It augments the gain set by the faceplate's input level pot. I use a dual pot on almost every module I make, but for a very different reason: to keep the main PCBA rigid! The Model 12 is the only one in which both halves of the dual pot are active in the circuit. Back to the AGC for a second ... asking the question what does variable bandwidth actually do: it restricts the width of the band allowed to pass to the outputs obviously and in doing that lets less frequencies through. So as the band narrows so does the output level of the filter. A circuit is required to boost the output amplitude of the filter slightly as the band closes down in width - they work together. This is called an Automatic Gain Control and it's not just a Plan B thing - these are commonly found in filters. On the ET Bandpass that gain control is done a bit more efficiently than on the 12. You won't find yourself having to make adjustments to the level pot when you change the resonance or bandwidth las you do on the 12. On the 11 it's much more set and forget. I didn't feel it was nessesary as neither of these functions are voltage controlled. On the 11 it's another story - to assure the output gain would stay level as the Bandwidth was VC'd, I had to come up with a way to adjust the level accordingly. The ACG on the 11 is basically a narrow-range vactrol VCA - a voltage controlled pot - that's governed not to shut down or open up all the way. I use the very same circuit for the VC slewing in the Heisenberg's SMOOTH output. I went with vac's on the 11 for several reasons, yet did make a prototype using transconductance amplifiers in place of vac's - four of them. I elected to go back to my first choice for a couple of reasons. One is cost - although vactrols are bit pricey, there are much less components required in the drive circuit as on the 13700. There is also the cost of PCB real estate one must take into consideration. An added benefit of using vacs above the cost reduction are their sonic fingerprint. Although these aren't the same type oused in the Model 13 (not quite as slow), they're still much slower than trans amps, and I tend to like the whip effect that comes from that. It' doesn't 'ring' like the Model 13... whippie is a better term. Like the tail end of snake, it sort of follows what's going on in front. Also, the effect gleaned from the TWIN switch is pretty much nullified using transconductance amps. Each of the two feedback paths are gated by their own vactrol which are intentionally running a bit behind one another. This is what causes the thickness produced when the switch is tripped. A recap on the facpelate controls - I actually find the Model 11's compliment much more similar to the Model 12's than the 291, outside of the Feedback switch and the voltage controlled Bandwidth. As in almost all of the our modules, we used bipolar attenuators. As with the Model 12, the 11 as one bipolar control for Freq, and one that's not. Both have outputs for the 6dB and 12 dB taps, although handled differently on each. Level pots not found on the 291, the feedback switch not found anywhere, the two tap outputs ot found on the Buchla filter, etc. I may have gone into too much detail here, hope you guys find a least some of it interesting! - P --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "Romeo Fahl" <romeo.fahl@...> wrote: > > That's thoroughly wicked! > > Say Peter, does this filter have any relation to the Buchla 291? I see some > similarities, at least based on the front panel content. > > Romeo > > On 8/29/07, (i think you can figure that out) <peter@...> > wrote: > > > > The Model 11 Bandpass Filter has been officially released. Shipments > > to begin in two weeks. Go here for full module stats, specs and sound > > samples: > > > > http://www.ear-group.net/model_11.html > > > > > > >
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Re: Model 11 Evil Twin Filter Released
2007-08-30 by (i think you can figure that out)
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