--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, Don Tillman <don@...> wrote: > > > From: "ceccles_ca" <ecclesreinson@...> > > Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:40:32 -0000 > > > > If you restrict the definition, you will have a hell of a time > > deciding what IS on the MI list. If a digital sampler doesn't belong > > on the MI list, then perhaps a VCS3 doesn't belong either. > > Okay, let's try an experiment... bring a musician into a room with a > digital sampler and a VCS3. Have him stand in front of each and > measure his heartbeat. That would be the Touring Test for musical > instruments. (I'm kidding. Well, maybe not.) > > Y'know, I'd sure like to say that a digital sampler doesn't belong on > the Musical Instrument list, but therein lies the issue. Why bother > with the low end so much? Why be so concerned about what legitimizing > questionable stuff when you could be making better musical > instruments? I'm interested in the high end. Where is the research > to make instruments that are truly cherished by the musician? Where > is the develoment of something that will enable and inspire the next > Hendrix or Coltrane? > > This is a major problem with the instrument industry; with almost 30 > freaking years digital development in the music world, you'd think > that they would have provided some truly kick ass musical instruments > by now. (And that's 30 years of development subsidized by the > computer industry and powered by Moore's Law, equivalent to centuries > of development in any other field.) But no, they spend all their > efforts faking Hammonds, faking Rhodes', faking pianos, faking > Mellotrons faking violins. > > There is no Hendrix or Coltrane of the digital sampler, and it's > really difficult to name a truly great solo played on a digital > machine. Compare that to the way we on this list gush over the intro > to "Watcher of the Skies". > > So, yeah, I'm thankful that we have the Mellotron Archives Mark VI and > whatever Streetly is developing. > > -- Don > >Well most of this seems agreeable, but the new wave of synths and samplers of the late 70's and 80's were a new page in the books and the people who made use of them such as Giorgio Moroder, Vangelis, Tomita, Walter Carlos, Jean Michael Jarre, Brian Eno etc. all contributed amongst countless others, sampled sounds, in context something you could not do without the sampler. Like anything else these can be put to good use by creative minds or abused by ripping off other peoples work. Samplers and trons are similar in respect that what goes in comes out somewhat different. I am also grateful to the Mellotron Archives and Streetly's and God bless them because if it were not for them we probably would not be having this discussion today. Respectfully, Pat NT Pending M400#703
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Re: 'Tron improvements, Musical Instruments, rant
2006-09-27 by Doug Berg
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