Mellotronists

Yup.  Just keep trackin' an' a-bouncin'!  Unless you
have 19 machines, of course.  Or protools, but where's
the fun in that.

Oh, and in reference to the Gizmotron, I've built a
couple of contraptions that give you a motor with a
felt wheel/s powered by a 9V battery and can secure to
the strap button for bowed effects.  Somewhat limited,
but good for certain things.  Definitely Rube Goldberg
type stuff...
-Jack

--- gino wong <wonggster@...> wrote:

> What were the mechanics and how practical or loopy
> were the loop tron
> or trons that T Dream used back in the day ?
> 
> The mixer trick is  the most practical way to
> implement 10cc voice
> choir thing becasue you'll never have enough
> machines, mike stands and
> pencils to do it otherwise.
> 
> gw
> 
> On 5/2/07, Jack Younger <e4103s@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello!
> >  This is a bit late in the game, but I only get to
> >  this page every so often lately...
> >  As far as looped and tracked "10cc" vocals, it's
> >  really quite easy and I've used it at the studio
> many
> >  times for a pad of breathless vocals.
> >  My method is to track about five to ten seconds
> of
> >  each note you want to a 1/4" or 1/2" 2-track. You
> >  can maximize by recording seperate notes one at a
> time
> >  on each track. Cut and loop it. Play the loop
> back
> >  to two tracks of your multitrack and record it
> through
> >  the whole song. Repeat the process as many times
> as
> >  you have track space for and then bounce the
> whole kit
> >  and kaboodle to two tracks for stereo, running
> the
> >  faders according to the required performance.
> >  The result is striking. I call it
> >  "create-a-tron" and it can be used for many
> different
> >  sound sources.
> >  Good luck!
> >  -Jack Younger (EMI 103S -the Bastard 'Tron)
> >
> >  --- chris.dale@... wrote:
> >
> >  > I don't know about cutting the tape and using
> it as
> >  > a loop.
> >  >
> >  > I do know that they overdubbed around 100+
> voices
> >  > and that they played the faders for the volume
> >  > swells in that song.
> >  >
> >  > And of course, theyre using the Gizmotron for
> the
> >  > cello sound and background noise as well. You
> can
> >  > hear that same noise on the track Lazy Ways
> from the
> >  > How Dare You album. It sounds interesting
> without
> >  > the choir voices.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Chris
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Hi, all-
> >  > Thought I would throw another wrench in the
> fire
> >  > (probably replete with erroneous 70's memories,
> >  > too).
> >  > It seems I read once that 10cc used a large
> >  > multitrack
> >  > recorder to create a playable choir of their
> own
> >  > voices on the song "I'm Not In Love". Once the
> >  > vocal
> >  > tracks were laid down on the same area of tape,
> >  > the
> >  > section was cut out, and spliced in a loop. It
> was
> >  > loaded back on the machine (with appropriate
> >  > tension),
> >  > and played off a mixing console using the solo
> >  > buttons
> >  > as a keyboard. I don't know where I read this,
> but
> >  > it
> >  > stuck in my mind for years. Maybe a similar
> idea
> >  > was
> >  > used by those clever Germans.
> >  >
> >  > Bruce Daily
> >  > M400 1221
> >  >
> >  > P.S. I admit to playing my 'tron "solo" in my
> >  > living
> >  > room (no mixer yet). So far my friends just
> smile,
> >  > scratch their heads, and mumble something about
> >  > "could
> >  > be done digitally". Oh well, what do they know?
> >  > I'm
> >  > happy.
> >  >
> >  > --- charel196 <charel196@...> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > let's not forget the "Singing Keyboard" from
> the
> >  > > 1930s, which was a tron/Chamberlin idea
> >  > > using movie film as the medium and light to
> read
> >  > it
> >  > > a/la Orchestron. I'd love to hear any
> >  > > examples of it....somebody back then had to
> have
> >  > > made a recording....
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Andy
> >  > > Thompson" <andy.thompson@...> wrote:
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >  > > > From: NormLeete@...
> >  > > > To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> >  > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:18 PM
> >  > > > Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Solo trons
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > In a message dated 22/04/2007 23:02:29 GMT
> >  > > Standard Time, andy.thompson@...
> >  > > writes:
> >  > > > an early European one-off attempt to use
> the
> >  > > > Chamberlin/Mellotron idea, with infinite
> >  > > sustain
> >  > > > I thought it was a modified Mellotron...
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Norm
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Norm
> >  > > >
> >  > > > What little I've been able to find out
> about
> >  > it
> >  > > seems to indicate that it was built in the
> >  > > '50s! It also sounds unbelievably complex to
> >  > play,
> >  > > making the 'MkII rhythms' technique
> >  > > dound like a doddle. :-) It allegedly resides
> in
> >  > > 'a west German museum' now, so if
> >  > > ANYONE has any idea which...
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Andy T.
> >  > > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  >
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