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Wood chassis front keep nuts replace or modify?

Wood chassis front keep nuts replace or modify?

2012-01-14 by MarkD

This weekends project is to work on the rebuild of all the front 1/4x28
keepnuts which hold the metal frame and motor mounts. They had all rusted to a point of not coming apart. I had to drill most of the heads off to remove all the parts for blasting and painting. 
I would like to ask others who have done this repair if they just replaced with the same keepnuts or if the made a change in design?

My concern is not the reassembly as that is straight forward, but since one of the bolts makes a ground point for the wiring that bolt may need to be removed from time to time to clean the contact or to add a wire. I know the nuts will rust once again and it will become difficult to remove the bolts should I need to do so.

I have purchase 1/4" stainless steel plate and am planning to make backing plates which will be screwed in place from the inside and then drilled and tapped for all the 1/4x28 screws. The stainless is non magnetic and should not rust. This assembly will provide a much better support as well, since the load is spread over all the area of the plate. I would also use stainless bolts with antisieze compound.

Thoughts or comments please.

Mark

RE: [MarcosManiacs] Wood chassis front keep nuts replace or modify?

2012-01-14 by John Sutton

Mark,

 

We had to replace the metal plates on my car, but only the ones which hold
the front sub-frame in place.  We discovered that the plates had shed their
anchor nuts and the guy who rebuilt the chassis had simply put large wood
screws into the holes!!

 

We decided to cut a 3 inch diameter hole in the wood box section and work
from there.  We also decided to make these plates "L" shaped so that they
come down on the inside of the box section in front of the engine mounts.
This spreads the load and gives more rigidity.  Once done you simply refit
the 3 inch disc you have cut out and glass fibre it in.

 

One way of making the electrical contact is to have a flanged washer with an
extra bolt hole for this purpose.  There is then no need to remove it.

 

I think it is a good idea to have anew keep nut arrangement, particularly as
nobody will see it.

 

Have a look on the Marcos Section of www.motorsnaps.com
<http://www.motorsnaps.com/>  

 

Best wishes,

 

John 

 

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Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Wood chassis front keep nuts replace or modify?

 

  

This weekends project is to work on the rebuild of all the front 1/4x28
keepnuts which hold the metal frame and motor mounts. They had all rusted to
a point of not coming apart. I had to drill most of the heads off to remove
all the parts for blasting and painting. 
I would like to ask others who have done this repair if they just replaced
with the same keepnuts or if the made a change in design?

My concern is not the reassembly as that is straight forward, but since one
of the bolts makes a ground point for the wiring that bolt may need to be
removed from time to time to clean the contact or to add a wire. I know the
nuts will rust once again and it will become difficult to remove the bolts
should I need to do so.

I have purchase 1/4" stainless steel plate and am planning to make backing
plates which will be screwed in place from the inside and then drilled and
tapped for all the 1/4x28 screws. The stainless is non magnetic and should
not rust. This assembly will provide a much better support as well, since
the load is spread over all the area of the plate. I would also use
stainless bolts with antisieze compound.

Thoughts or comments please.

Mark

Re: Wood chassis front keep nuts replace or modify?

2012-01-15 by MarkD

John,

Thanks for your reply. I have already opened holes as you discribe and plan to replace and then glass over them when done.

I think that for the most part your repair is done in about the same manner as I am doing. I will march onward.

Regards
Mark

--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "John Sutton" <john_sutton@...> wrote:
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>
> Mark,
> 
>  
> 
> We had to replace the metal plates on my car, but only the ones which hold
> the front sub-frame in place.  We discovered that the plates had shed their
> anchor nuts and the guy who rebuilt the chassis had simply put large wood
> screws into the holes!!
> 
>  
> 
> We decided to cut a 3 inch diameter hole in the wood box section and work
> from there.  We also decided to make these plates "L" shaped so that they
> come down on the inside of the box section in front of the engine mounts.
> This spreads the load and gives more rigidity.  Once done you simply refit
> the 3 inch disc you have cut out and glass fibre it in.
> 
>  
> 
> One way of making the electrical contact is to have a flanged washer with an
> extra bolt hole for this purpose.  There is then no need to remove it.
> 
>  
> 
> I think it is a good idea to have anew keep nut arrangement, particularly as
> nobody will see it.
> 
>  
> 
> Have a look on the Marcos Section of www.motorsnaps.com
> <http://www.motorsnaps.com/>  
> 
>  
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
>  
> 
> John 
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of MarkD
> Sent: 14 January 2012 13:03
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Wood chassis front keep nuts replace or modify?
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> This weekends project is to work on the rebuild of all the front 1/4x28
> keepnuts which hold the metal frame and motor mounts. They had all rusted to
> a point of not coming apart. I had to drill most of the heads off to remove
> all the parts for blasting and painting. 
> I would like to ask others who have done this repair if they just replaced
> with the same keepnuts or if the made a change in design?
> 
> My concern is not the reassembly as that is straight forward, but since one
> of the bolts makes a ground point for the wiring that bolt may need to be
> removed from time to time to clean the contact or to add a wire. I know the
> nuts will rust once again and it will become difficult to remove the bolts
> should I need to do so.
> 
> I have purchase 1/4" stainless steel plate and am planning to make backing
> plates which will be screwed in place from the inside and then drilled and
> tapped for all the 1/4x28 screws. The stainless is non magnetic and should
> not rust. This assembly will provide a much better support as well, since
> the load is spread over all the area of the plate. I would also use
> stainless bolts with antisieze compound.
> 
> Thoughts or comments please.
> 
> Mark
>

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